Bautismos SECRETOS?

Hola a todos:

En busqueda de un antepasado, encontré que el microfilm en el que se encuentra el registro de su bautizo se llama "BAUTISMOS SECRETOS 1869-1900" de la Iglesia catolica de Zapopan, Jalisco. Encontrarme con este tipo de registro "secreto" me sorprendio mucho y quisiera preguntarle a cualquier persona que sepa sobre este tema si me puede ampliar o ilustrar con informacion al respecto. Porque era secreto? Que es lo que puede contener? Es acaso el niño bautizado producto de insesto, violación o algo por el estilo? Agradeceria cualquier información al respecto que pudieran proporcionarme.

Alessandro

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Hello everyone:

Researching information about an ancestor, I found that the film he is registered/christened is called "Secret Christenings 1868-1900" at Church records for Zapopan, Jal. Finding this type of "secret" record shoked me, I would like to ask anyone at NR who knows about this topic if you can extend or explain me more about this. Why was it secret? What does it contain? Is by chance, the baptized child a son of a violation, incest or something similar? I would appreciate very much any information related.

Sincerely

Alessandro

New Member

Hello,
I would like to thank you for accepting me in this forum. I am Maricela Gonzalez and I am looking for my ancestors from Pinos Zacatecas. My father was Gabriel Gonzalez son of Salome Gonzalez. Salome's father was don Jose Ysabel Gonzalez all of Pinos. I have been able to go back a few generations. I have been researching and looking for baptismal records, birth registrations, marriage and death records and have had some luck and have gotten stuck in other parts of the family. I am so happy to be among people who share my same interest. Thank you again.

Here is my URL https://www.nuestrosranchos.org/mhernandez

Rodrigo Carvajal y Figueroa

Buenas tardes a todos
Tengo entendido que Rodrigo Carvajal y Ulloa, que fue casado con Juana Lomelin, fue hijo de Rodrigo Carvajal y Figueroa y de Melchora de los Reyes, pero no he podido encontrar alguna fuente primaria que lo respalde. Igualmente tengo entendido que Rodrigo Carvajal y Figueroa era hijo de otro Rodrigo de Carvajal y Ulloa y de doña Francisca Figueroa y Temiño de Bañuelos, hija a su vez de don Frnacisco de Figueroa y de doña Ana Temiño de Bañuelos, quien fuera esposa en primeras nupcias de Pedro Pacho. ¿Existen fuentes primarias que prueben esta filiación?
Muchas gracias por su atención y ayuda

MIguel Rodríguez de Santa Ana y Sebastiana Pérez de Frías

Hi fellow researchers, I've been inactive in genealogy for quite a bit, true it is that I'm almost "retiring" from it, a least to some extent, as I kind of answered the two / three questions I had when I started 15 years ago. Never the less, there are a couple of things that still gives me an "itch", been the main one the unknown (to me) identity of Miguel Rodríguez de Santa Ana, who is my oldest ancestor on a direct father to father line. I only know about some of his kids (all from familysearch.org database).

I wonder if someone has found who he was, specially since he married a 'de Frías' which I know is been extensively researched in this forums. This following part in a post by Mr. Steven Hernandez mentions similar names:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/19163?page=1

...x. Sebastiana Pérez de Frías, born ca. 1666 in Nochistlán, Zacatecas, México; died Unknown; married (1) Nicolás Rodríguez de Santana ca. 1685 in Nochistlán, Zacatecas, México; born ca. 1662 in Nochistlán, Zacatecas, México; died Unknown; married (2) Francisco de Legaspi 10 December 1710 in Nochistlán, Zacatecas, México; born ca. 1660 in Nochistlán, Zacatecas, México; died 02 February 1733 in Nochistlán, Zacatecas, México.

More About Nicolás Rodríguez de Santana and Sebastiana Pérez de Frías:
Marriage: ca. 1685, Nochistlán, Zacatecas, México....

I'm not sure if anything else is known about the groom. These Rgz de Santa Ana are quite tricky due to the constant skipping of their last part of their surname, I know they seems to be very close and related to the Lozano and Quiralte/Quirarte, all of this in Nochistlán and around, but very little I had come across with it.

I'm leaving the topic more as a note to my self than a full question, leaving this door open to any of your comments that in a future may take me in any specific direction. I'm planning on writing down (finally) all I found about my last name and ancestors, and genealogy in general in a little booklet, I have many brick walls here and there, but hopefully will serve as a source to others behind me.

Thank you for any comment or clue you may want to share.

R. J. Quiralta

CORONA: Álvarez Corona, Fernández Corona, González Corona

I believe I have found the parents of doña Isabel Álvarez Corona, the wife of conquistador don Martín Monje, giving us the origin of the above compound surnames:

1. According to his testamento, dated 16 Jun 1590, Juan Fernández Nieto was the son of conquistador Alonso Martín and doña Beatriz Álvarez, and he was married to doña Catalina de León. He mentions Martín Monje, who he identifies as his “cuñado,” so we know that Catalina de León was the daughter of don Martín Monje and doña Isabel Álvarez Corona. He names as their children Juan Fernández Corona (20), doña Catalina Corona (18), doña Beatriz Nieto (16), Martín Monje (14), and Hernán González Corona (13).
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-69JN-G?cat=198356

2. Pedro de Trejo was married to doña Isabel de León, daughter of don Martín Monje and doña Isabel Álvarez Corona. On 22 May 1568, he was tried by the Holy Inquisition for “proposiciones hereticas.” Three of the witnesses presented against him were his cuñados, doña Catalina de León (age 24 and widow of miner Cristóbal de Girón), Martín Monje (19) and doña Antonia de León (14). Another witness was the above-mention Juan Fernández Nieto, who is identified as the cousin of the previous three witnesses, and nephew of doña Isabel Álvarez Corona. The obvious connection would be between her and his mother, Beatriz Álvarez, since they have the same surname (if this is so, then he and his wife, doña Catalina de León, were 1st-cousins).
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSD2-CQVJ-F?cat=31792

3. In 1554, Juan Infante accused Juan Fernández Corona and Garci Álvarez Corona of building a house and corral on his land, and he brought suit against them. At first glance, I thought that this Juan Fernández Corona was the son of Juan Fernández Nieto and doña Catalina de León, and Garci Álvarez was his cousin, the son of Martín Monje and doña Leónor de la Torre, but this would not be possible, since this lawsuit transpired between the years 1554 and 1565, before those two were born. Upon reading the document, I discovered that these two men were brothers, and were the sons of Hernán González Corona, vecinos de Guayangarao. As the two brothers were contemporaries of doña Isabel Álvarez Corona (and her supposed sister, Beatriz Álvarez), and seeing how doña Isabel had grandsons named “Garci Álvarez Corona,” “Juan Fernández Corona” and “Hernán González Corona,” I can’t help but think they are her brothers, and therefore, she is the daughter of Hernán González Corona.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSD2-7X9C?cat=623294

4. Found at PARES/AGIS, and dated 8 Mar 1536: “Hernán González Corona and Catalina González, su mujer, con Alonso, García, Juanico, Beatriz, Leonor, Mayor e Isabel, sus hijos, vecinos de Guadalcanal, a Nueva España.”

This is undoubtedly the same Garci Álvarez Corona and Juan Fernández Corona, sons of Hernán González Corona, mentioned in the above lawsuit. While I can’t say with complete certainty that the cited daughters Beatriz and Isabel are Beatriz Álvarez and Isabel Álvarez Corona, I think it’s highly likely, given that the names of these three men appear among the descendants of both of these women. Hopefully, some day, we can find the documentation to confirm these relationships.
http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas20/catalogo/description/6049580

Saludos,
Manny Díez Hermosillo

PADRONES - Diocesis de Guadalajara 1639-1875

Hola prim@s,

Here are links to padrones of various parishes of the Diocesis de Guadalajara, years 1639-1875.
Aquí enlaces a los padrones de varias parroquias de la Diocesis de Guadalajara, años 1639-1875. Entre ellas: Guadalajara, Jalostotitlan, Tepatitlan, Cuquio, Sta Maria de Lagos, San Juan de Lagos, Tequila, Teocaltiche, La Barca, Zapotlan, Purificacion, Encarnacion, Cienega de Mata, Teul, Juchipila, Jerez, Zacatecas, Jalpa, Nochistlan, San Matias Pinos, Asientos AGS, San Sebastian Venado, Monterrey NL y mas.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/32677?availability=Family%2…

Saludos!
Manny Diez Hermosillo

Batres en Zac/Aguas.

Hola a todos. I am researching the Batres line in Zacatecas/Aguascalientes. This was my paternal grandfather’s mother’s line. I have only been able to go back to late 1800s using familysearch.org. Does anyone have family information or ideas on how to expand the search in this area? I’m glad to share what I have found so far with anyone out there who may have connections to this family name. The info I have is for Zacarias Batres and Petra Garcia, parents of Cleofas Batres, who married Maria de Jesus Almeida in 1874 in Fresnillo. She was born in 1855 in Fresnillo. They had a daughter named Macaria Batres, born 10 Mar 1872 in Fresnillo. She is the mother of my grandfather, Canuto Batres Herrera, also born in Fresnillo.

Estoy en proceso de investigar la familia Batres en Zac./Aguas. Ésta fue la familia de la madre de mi abuelo paterno. Hasta ahora sólo llego a fines de los años 1800 usando familysearch.org . ¿Alguién tiene más información familiar ó ideas en cómo mejorar la búsqueda en este ámbito? Dispuesto a compartir lo que he descubierto con quienquiera tenga mas conexiones con este apellido. La información que tengo es de Zacarias Batres y de Petra Garcia, padres de Cleofas Batres, que se casó con Maria de Jesus Almeida en 1874 en Fresnillo. Ella nació en 1855 en Fresnillo. Ellos tuvieron una hija llamada Macaria Batres, nacida el 10 de marzo de 1872 en Fresnillo. Esta el la madre de mi abuelo, Canuto Batres Herrera, también nacido en Fresnillo.

Thanks/gracias.
Rick Fernández

HACERCA DEL APELLIDO DE ALMEIDA

DESEO SABER SI ALGUIEN, TIENE INFORMACION DEL APELLIDO ALMEIDA, LO ENCUENTRO EN MIS ABUELOS CUARTOS MATERNOS, EL MATRIMONIO ES OSEPH JOACHIN BAEZ Y LUISA CAYO ZEIJAS DE ALMEIDA, CASADOS UN 8 DE ENERO DE 1774 EN JALOSTOTITLAN, JAL, ENCUENTRO COMO PADRES DE LUISA A AGUSTIN DE ALMEIDA NACIDO EN 1703 Y CASADO CON JOSEPHA DE HERMOSILLO EN 10 DE FEBRERO DE 1727, EN SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS, LOS PADRES DE AGUSTIN DE ALMEIDA SON AGUSTIN DE ALMEIDA Y MARIA LUPERCIO, DE LOS CUALES YA NO HE PODIDO AVANZAR, HE PREGUNTADO CON PERSONAS DEL VALLE Y LOS ALTOS Y NO UBICAN EL APELLIDO ALMEIDA EN ESA ZONA, ALGUIEN DEL GRUPO HA ENCONTRADO, ESTE APELLIDO EN SU GENEALOGIA, ME ENCANTARIA TENER INFORMACION AL RESPECTO, LUISA TIENE UNA HERMANA LLAMADA JUANA DE ALMEIDA Y ESTUBO CASADA CON JOSEPH NICOLAS ALVARES TOSTADO. MI ABUELA LUISA TAMBIEN ESTUVO CASADA CON AUGUSTIN DIONICIO CASILLAS.

BUENO ESTAMOS EN CONTACTO, ATTE. LUPITTA

Capitán Juan Fonseca / Gertrudis Gómez de Aguilar

Hola a todos,

Espero puedan ayudarme. Estoy buscando información sobre el Capitán Juan Fonseca que casó con Gertrudis Gómez de Aguilar en segundas nupcias. Yo desciendo de su hija Francisca.
El matrimonio de Juan Fonseca con Gertrudis Gómez de Aguilar se celebró el 2 de enero de 1715 en Tecolotlán, Jalisco. En el registro se señala que él es viudo de Magdalena de Escobar.
Murió antes de 1766, pues en el registro de matrimonio de su hijo Juan Fonseca Aguilar ya aparece como difunto.
¿Se sabe quiénes eran sus padres?

¡Muchas gracias!

Joseph Simon Gutierrez Coronado and Juana Ayala y Valdivia

I have recently connected myself to Joseph Simon Gutierrez Coronado and Juana Ayala y Valdivia.

Does anyone have any information regarding the ancestors of this couple? They are having children in Jalostotitlán from at least 1703 - 1714. Unfortunately marriage records just prior to this date are not available.

I have a feeling Juana will connect somehow (probably daughter) to Blas Valdivia y Mendoza and Juana Leal de Ayala.

Thanks,
Alex

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mt-DNA haplogroup U6a7a1b in Zacatecas and Jessica Alba

Finding Your Roots with Henry Louis Gates, Jr., Season 2, Episode 10: Decoding Our Past Through DNA, featured actress Jessica Alba. The episode focused on her father Mark Abla’s ancestry. What was intriguing was that his matrilineage stemmed from Zacatecas. This got me thinking that many people with ancestry from Zacatecas, including many Nuestros Ranchos researchers, probably share a link with the Albas.

The episode traced Mark Alba’s matriline back to Josefa Laves (b.ca. 1837), daughter of Jose Maria Laves (b.ca. 1820) and Carmen Carrillo (b.ca. 1820). This is where the episode hits the brick wall, but it did add one extra piece of crucial information: Mark’s mt-DNA haplogroup was U6a7a1b, a marker commonly found among Sephardic Jews. This would mean that Carmen Carrillo also carried mt-DNA marker U6a7a1b, as would all of her matrilineal ancestors.

Armed with the information from the episode, I began to focus on how to break down the brick walls, while tracing up this matriline.

1st brick wall:
Initially, no information for Josefa Laves (b.ca. 1837) or her father Jose Maria Laves (b.ca. 1820) could be found. Careful observation revealed that the surname “Laves” was actually “Lares” – an understandable misreading, considering the style of penmanship in the original documents. Also, Josefa Lares was actually born closer to 1847 then 1837.

Jose Maria Lares and Carmen Carrillo were married in Jerez, Zacatecas the 28th of May, 1845, as seen here:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-DZ95-4L?i=84&wc=3PSJ-9…
This record reveals that Carmen Carrillo was the daughter of Isidro Carrillo and Nepomucena Fernandez (b.ca. 1790).

2nd brick wall:
No marriage record for Isidro Carrillo and Nepomucena Fernandez could be found. It was time to look closer at the baptism records of their children. (Note: Some of the solutions for this 2nd brick wall were scattered among research notes shared years ago by Erlinda Castanon-Long.)

Carmen Carrillo’s 1821 baptism revealed her paternal grandparents but not her maternal grandparents, as seen here:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-1Z32-H?i=122&wc=3PS8-6…

Luckily, the baptism record of Carmen’s brother Lucas Carrillo named their maternal grandparents, as seen here:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-1ZQ6-S?i=465&wc=3PS8-6…
That meant that Nepomucena Fernandez was the daughter of Victoriano Fernandez and Felipa Torres (b.ca. 1757).

(Nicolas) Victoriano Fernandez and Felipa (de Jesus) Torres were married the 12th of September, 1782, in Jerez, Zacatecas, as seen here:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-GHYP-D?i=301&wc=3P9C-P…
This record reveals that Felipa de Jesus Torres was the daughter of Alejo Balvino de Torres and Antonia Bernardina de Avila (b. ca. 1732). It also adds a note that Nicolas Victoriano Fernandez and Felipa de Jesus Torres were related in “tercero con quarto grado” or in “third and fourth degree” meaning that the groom was three generations away, and the bride was four generations away from a common ancestor. I was unable to locate a corresponding dispensa record for this marriage, but this tiny detail would prove instrumental later.

3rd brick wall:
Going back another generation, no marriage record could be found for Alejo Balvino de Torres and Antonia Bernardina de Avila. Looking through the baptism records of their children would not work this time because they did not list grandparents in this time period. It was time to find an ulterior route. (This would be a tricky one.)

If Mark Alba’s mt-DNA haplogroup was U6a7a1b, then so was Carmen Carrillo’s, and ultimately Antonia Bernardina de Avila’s. I thought to myself: Could there be another Zacatecas lineage carrying the U6a7a1b mt-DNA marker?

Yes. There was one connected to Katy Brecht in a roundabout way:
Katy Brecht’s maternal grandfather had an autosomal match to another anonymous person. That other anonymous person had the mt-DNA marker U6a7a1b, and a matrilineage that passed through Zacatecas. Brecht shared that the other anonymous person was the matrilineal great-grandchild of:
Librada Arellano (b.ca. 1872), daughter of:
Refugio del Real (b.ca. 1850), daughter of:
Eduviges Quiros (b.ca. 1812), daughter of:
Josefa Sanchez (b.ca. 1785), daughter of:
Andrea Escobedo (b.ca. 1760), daughter of:
Ygnacia Ulloa (b.ca. 1730), daughter of:
Juana Acevedo (b.ca. 1710), daughter of:
Ursula de la Torre (b.ca. 1680), daughter of:
Josefa Gonzalez de Aro (b.ca. 1650), daughter of:
Mariana de Quero (b.ca.1630), presumably the earliest traceable carrier of the U6a7a1b haplogroup for Zacatecas.

How would Antonia Bernardina de Avila (b. ca. 1732) connect to this line? I could not trace backwards through her, but perhaps tracing forward from Mariana de Quero would reveal some possibilities. The task was to keep an eye out for matrilineal descendants of Mariana de Quero who married a de Avila/Davila within a time period appropriate to possibly being be the parents of Antonia Bernardina de Avila.

There turned out to be three possibilities:
1. Mariana de Quero’s matrilineal granddaughter Cecilia de Trejo had married Bernardo de Avila on the 15th of July, 1724, in Jerez, Zacatecas.

2. Mariana de Quero’s matrilineal great-granddaughter Efigenia Rosalia de Robles had married Eusebio de Avila about December of 1733, in Tlaltenango, Zacatecas.

3. Mariana de Quero’s matrilineal great-granddaughter Maria Gertrudis de la Torre had married Juan Simon de Avila the 23rd of November, 1729, in Jerez, Zacatecas. (Incidentally, Juan Simon de Avila was the son of the above mentioned Bernardo de Avila from his first marriage to Angela Fernandez – so Juan Simon de Avila had taken his stepmother’s niece [her sister’s daughter] as a wife.)

This third option seems the most probable because, when applied, it adds one crucial detail to the equation:
It creates the relation necessary for Antonia Bernardina de Avila’s daughter Felipa Torres to be related to Nicolas Victoriano Fernandez “in ‘tercero con quarto grado’ or in ‘third and fourth degree’ meaning that the groom was three generations away, and the bride was four generations away from a common ancestor” as stated in their 1782 marriage. The relationship would look like this:

Trunk…Sebastian Fernandez del Campo & Cesilda Lopez de Leon
………………….Alejandro Fernandez…1…Angela Fernandez
………………………..Juan Fernandez…2…Juan Simon de Avila
…………Nicolas Victoriano Fernandez…3…Antonia Bernardina de Avila
……………………………………………4…Felipa de Jesus Torres

Now anyone descended from Mariana de Quero can also claim a potential connection to Jessica Alba. The entire extended matriline of Mark Alba would look like this:

0. mt-DNA haplogroup U6a7a1b
1. Mariana de Quero (b.ca.1630) [Gabriel Gonzalez de Aro]. Parents of:
2. Maria de Rivera/Gonzalez de Aro (b.ca. 1660) [Marcos de Trejo]. Parents of:
3. Rafaela de Trejo (b.ca. 1688) [Diego de la Torre]. Parents of:
4. Maria Gertrudis de la Torre (b.ca. 1711) [Juan Simon de Avila]. Probably the Parents of:
5. Antonia Bernardina de Avila (b.ca. 1732) [Alejo Balvino de Torres]. Parents of:
6. Felipa de Jesus Torres (b.ca. 1757) [Nicolas Victoriano Fernandez]. Parents of:
7. Juana Nepomucena Fernandez (b.ca. 1790) [Isidro Carrillo]. Parents of:
8. Maria del Carmen Carrillo (b. 1821) [Jose Maria Lares]. Parents of:
9. Josefa Lares (b. 1847) [Juan Jose Silvestre Miramontes]. Parents of:
10. Silveria Miramontes (b. 1887) [Juan Miranda]. Parents of:
11. Guadalupe Miranda (b. 1910) [Daniel Martinez]. Parents of:
12. Isabel Martinez (b. 1932) [Jose Alba Sanchez]. Parents of:
13. Mark David Alba (b. 1960) [Catherine Louisa Jensen]. Parents of:
14. Jessica Alba “the actress” (b. 1981)

Wills, Testamentos, Bienes de Difuntos

I am trying to get a copy of Antonio de Aguayo's will. Antonio de Aguayo was a soldier in Nuno Beltran de Guzman's 1531-32 expedition to the area that became Nueva Galicia. He was an encomendero and vecino of Purificacion and presented a Probenza de Meritos to the Royal Audiencia of Nueva Galicia in 1572. I believe that he probably died between that year and 1600.
Sometime ago, a list of microfilms containing testamentos that are in the vaults of the library in Salt Lake City was posted on this site. I contacted Eduardo Soanes for assistance in searching these microfilms, but he was informed that they cannot be accessed by the public. Eduardo referred me to the Archivo General de la Nacion in Mexico City. He says that this institution is generally given courtesy copies of Mormon microfilms.
I also remember a Nuestros Ranchos member from Mexico offering research help in Mexico, but have not succeeded in recalling who that was. Does anyone know who this person is? Can you provide contact information?
Jose Aguayo Ortega

MEXTICACÁN: SIMÓN GARCÍA cc CLARA DE MAYA

Hola prim@s,

Simón García and Clara de Maya were early residents of Mexticacán. I mentioned them in an earlier thread regarding the Benavides/Cortes/Aguayo clans. Their names had come up in the proceso against vicar Francisco de Veas of August 1570 - Simón García presented witnesses against the accused, and Clara de Maya was one of the women who refused to confess with him.

I came upon their names again while going through the notarial archives of San Luis Potosí. On 14 Oct 1593, Clara de Maya - at the time, a widow and living in San Luis Potosí - grants power to her son, Juan Bautista de Meneses, to handle all of her legal affairs. There are a number of documents regarding their efforts to collect moneys owed to them through probate, including her carta de dote and Simón García’s testamento.

On 15 Jun 1568, in Guadalajara, Simón García submitted the carte de dote of Clara de Maya (on image 41), “his legitimate wife, daughter of Pedro de Maya, deceased, who was a resident of this city… having received 1,000 pesos … 552 of which were given to him by Diego de Colio, executor of Pedro de Maya.” I’m assuming that Pedro de Maya is the same who participated in the Conquest of Mexico alongside Cortés, seeing how Diego de Colio was his executor (though, according to other records, he lived in Antequera, Oaxaca).

On 12 Oct 1585 in Mexticacán, Simón García submitted his last will & testament (image 46). He declared that he was the son of Diego Marín de Cubas and Isabel Álvarez de Meneses, naturales de Santa María en los Reinos de Castilla (according to the testamento of one of his daughters, Simón García was from Canary Islands, so this would probably be Santa María de Guía de Gran Canaria). He names his and Clara de Maya’s six children: Isabel Álvarez de Meneses cc Pedro Rincón Granado, Diego Martín, Juan Bautista de Meneses, Martín Ramírez, María Cortés and Catalina de Meneses. Of interest, are the names of his debtors and executors:

  • me deve joanes de arrona Residente en la cañada de san Joan quinientos y treinta y tres psº y un tomin
  • me deve Pedro narvaez Residente en el Pueblo de xalostotitlan lo que dixere en su conçiençia porque le tengo por buen cristiano porque no me acuerdo lo que es sino que le e ydo dando dineros y sal y lo que declare se cobre del
  • me deve Joan muñoz Residente en el pueblo de xalostotitlan lo que el dijere y declare en su conçiençia de vacas y Ropa que le fui dando que no me acuerdo lo ques que lo quel dixere eso sera y cobrese del
  • me deve baltasar garçia cuñado de joanes de arona treinta y dos psº de oro comun de tomines
  • yten declaro que yo tengo enpeñado en poder de diego flores señor de suchipila un jarro de plata de los nuevos en veinte y çinco psº mando se le den los dichos veinte y çinco Psº y se cobre del el dho Jarro
  • me deve alº de Robalcava veinte y seis psº de oro comun de vacas y Ropa que le di mᵈº se cobren del
  • me deve Luis de benavides mi cuñado noventa psº y quatro tomines q le preste en plata mando no se los pidan hasta el dia de pasqua de Resurreçion
  • yten declaro que me deve Luis de benvides El moço veinte y seis ffanegas de maiz de un cavallo q le vendi mando se cobren del
  • yten declaro que ansimesmo me deve francº hernandez Residente en mytic onçe ffanegas de maiz que le preste
  • nonbro por mis albaçeas y testamentarios y tenedores de mys bienes a Pedro de Umendia e a Luis de benavides su cuñado

What caught my eye, were the two men named Luis de Benavides, one whom Simón García identified as “el mozo,” and the other whom he identified as his cuñado (and who is likely the same who was his executor). If Luis de Benavides was his cuñado, then he was either: a. married to Simón García’s sister, b. the brother of Clara de Maya, or c. married to the sister of Clara de Maya. If it were “c,” in the aforementioned causa contra Francisco de Veas, one of the witnesses was Andrea Cortés, born around 1540, who was identified as the wife of Luis de Benavides. I mused that she could be another daughter of Pedro Cortés and a sister of Catalina Cortés, but is it possible that she was a daughter of Pedro de Maya? One of the daughters of Simón García and Clara de Maya was named Maria Cortés, who could have received her surname from Clara de Maya. Hmmm. I wonder what Pedro de Maya’s wife’s name was?

Simón García’s and Clara de Maya’s daughter, Catalina de Meneses, later used the name “Catalina Ramírez.” She was married to Juan Navarro “el Viejo,” of San Luis Potosí, where they lived (from them descend the Navarro of Sierra de Pinos, through their daughter Mariana Ramírez cc Melchor de los Reyes). In some records, Catalina appears with the surname “Ramírez de la Campaña.” One wonders if there is any connection to Juan Ramírez de la Campaña cc doña Francisca de Temiño de Velasco?

I hope you all find these puzzle pieces useful!
Manny Díez Hermosillo

Finding Your Roots | Mexican Roots

A couple of nights ago, PBS aired an episode of Finding Your Roots titled, Mexican Roots. The episode focused on the genealogy of two Mexican-American entertainers, Mario López and Melissa Villaseñor. The show's researchers discovered that Mario descends from one of the founders of Zacatecas, Baltasar Temiño de Bañuelos, and that Melissa descends from Diego de Ochoa Garibay. One can imagine, then, that the two are distantly related to many Nuestros Ranchos members.

If you haven't already seen the episode, or any of the episodes in the series, they’re definitely worth a look. The same was true for the show, Who Do You Think You Are?, until it went off the air.

The 2016 episode of Finding Your Roots that profiled the genealogy of Mexican-American writer Sandra Cisneros was, for me, a revelation. It sparked my genealogical journey. I watched the episode and thought, "Wait, what? Mexicans can do their genealogy, too? How?" Before then, I just assumed deep knowledge of my ancestors was lost and unrecoverable. (I’m overjoyed that this wasn’t the case.) One of the first places Google pointed me to along the way was to Nuestros Ranchos. Glad to have you back.