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1)Henry II King of England and Eleanor of Aquitane Queen of England
2)Eleonore de Inglaterra, princesa de inglaterra and Alfonso VIII rey de Castilla
3 Berenguela de Castilla and Alfonso IX rey de Leon
4 San Fernando III rey de Castilla and Beatriz de Suavia ( Elizabeth Hohenstaufen)
5 Alfonso X Fernandez and Yolanda Aragon
6 Fernando infante de Castilla and Blanca de Francia Capet
7 Alfonso de la Cerda and Mahalda de Brienne
8 Luis de la Cerda, infante de Castilla and Leonor Alfonso de Guzman
9Juan de la Cerda and Sol Martinez
10 Martin Gonzalez de Cerda and Violante Alvarez Pereira
11 Mahalda de la Cerda y Fernan Gutierrez de Valverde
12 Mari Gutierrez de Valverde y de la Cerda and Gonzalo Porcallo De Morán
13 Beatriz Moran and Lorenzo Ulloa
14 Leonor Ulloa De la Cerda and Balthazar Mendoza Pantoja
15 Juan Pantoja Mendoza, conquistador and Catalina Medina (daughter of Domingo Medina)
16 Bernardina H. de Mendoza Pantoja Ulloa (b. about 1533) and Gonzalo Nuñez de Sotomayor
17 Juana Nuñez de Sotomayor and Capitan Diego de Ochoa Garibay
18 Francisca de Ochoa Garibai and Juan De La Mora y Aviña
19 Fernando de La Mora y Ochoa and Maria de La Mora
20 Juan de La Mora Zamora and Leonor Gutierrez de Hermosillo
21 Jose de La Mora Gutierrez and Ma. Clara de Alderete Valdivia
22 Jose Manuel de La Mora and Ana María Romo de Vivar
23 Anna Joachina De la Mora And Ygnacio de La Rosa Romo de Vivar
24 José María Romo de Vivar and Maria Moran
25 Joseph Julian Romo and Antonia Villalobos
26 Pantaleon Romo and Maria Mucia Ortiz
27 Jose de Jesus Romo and Maria Eduarda De La Rosa
28 Ignacio de La Rosa Romo married Carmen Godiva Garcia Reyes

Rick A Ricci
Source: Book Mygenes2000

Welcome Walter to the Nuestrosranchos community. Like you, I am also experienced in researching New England Genealogy. I have a brother-in-law and a sister-in-law that descend from the original New England settlers. This past weekend my nephew, Robert Gregory Nash, married a descendant of New England settlers, so we now have three descendants of the original settlers in the family tree.

To Walter and Jorge,

I would like to add my two cents in response to Jorge’s post. I have not found any evidence that links Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar y Mendoza Marqués del Canete Eleonor de la Cerda y de Aragon to my Diego Romo de Vivar ancestor.

Rick A. Ricci

Hi Netchemist,
Yes, the Romo de Vivar are the ancestors of a lot of people from Aguascalientes, I also descend from both Diego Romo de Vivar y Rangel and Capitan Romo de Vivar y Rangel, both children from Capitan Diego Miguel Romo de Vivar y Perez de Utiel (who died on July 11th 1659). They had a lot of children and the names are repeated in several generations.
Here is a list of ancestors I have found, I don’t have a lot of documents but I have found these persons using data from My Heritage and Family Search.
Capitan Diego Miguel Romo de Vivar y Perez de Utiel was the son of
• Diego Romo de Vivar Ponce de Leon born in 1550 in Rielves and died on Nov 7th, 1610, married to Catalina Perez de Utiel, born in Rielves on March 12 1564. Son of:
• Diego Maria Romo de Vivar Lopez born in Feria, Badajoz, Extremadura in 1520, married to Catalina Ponce de Leon Fernandez y Castañeda born in Feria, Badajoz, Extremadura in 1525. Son of:
• Diego Romo de Vivar y Ponce de Leon, born in Manzanares el Real, Madrid on Nov, 3rd 1489, died in Toledo in 1536, married to Maria Lopez born in 1500. Son of:
• Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar y Mendoza Marqués del Canete, born in Guadalajara, Castilla in 1466, died in Valencia on Feb 22nd 1523, married to Eleonor de la Cerda y de Aragon, born in Guadalajara, Castilla in 1472, died in Jadraque Castle, Guadalajara, Castilla on April 8th 1497.
This data may help you to make more research around the Romo de Vivar. If you want I can share some more information about the Romo members around Aguascalientes. (They had up to 11 children each).
Regards
Jorge

Yes dear fguevara_robles, I have info on that subject and it is clearly a legend. No that Felipe Cabral didnot existed, but he was not Juan Felipe but Noverto Felipe and sure, he married Doña Josefa Saldivar, the daughter of Marcelo (or Marcelino) Saldivar and Juliana Felix (or De los Reyes Félix). It is dificult to precisely know when and how the legend started, but I think this was very likely a way to fill in a blank spot in the genealogy or a strange way to detach from the ancestry adding some spicy tale to it. I might understand that because at the time the legend was created people have not the resources we have now to do research from the comfort of home. Once, my aunt Cabral told me "that is just not true and my brothers invented that legend". When I first put online my tree, elaborated by my dad upon the family tales and memories, a tree that started exactly with the "Juan Felipe Cabral, born in Portugal in the first quarter of the XVIII century, very soon I got an email from Salvador Cabral Valdez, showing interest in my tree and then we started a fruitfull exchange that lasted few years. This exchange started in the year 2006 and the first subject was precisely about Juan Felipe. He suggested that probaly he was not from Portugal and then draw my attention to the Family Search website and showed me a registar of Felipe Cabral marriage with Josefa Saldivar. That was a real discovery for me that proved beyond doubt that Juan Felipe, the portuguese, was in fact Felipe Noverto, born in Jerez in 1748, the son of Hermenegildo Cabral and Thomasa Hernández (Fernández) and then married Josefa Saldivar in 1775. Further research over the following years proved also that he belonged to the Cabral line started by Domingo Cabral and Ana Catalina Pinedo Caldera. One of the youngest sons of them was Bartolomé, born around 1647 and later married Melchora de los Reyes. One of their sons was Nicolás Cabral, who later married Marta de la Encarnación around 1710 more or less. One of their sons was Hermenegildo, who married Thomasa Fernández in 1739 and lived then in el Puesto del Sotano, Jerez. They were the parents of Vitalia, Rosalía and Felipe Noverto Cabral.

Some in the family received these news as great news, others feel a little deceived knowing no portuguese Juan Felipe existed, but that is the true and we cannot do anything about. As for myself I felt very happy to be able to track the roots that far.

Many years later, Salvador Cabral Valdez gave me some news: he found that Domingo Cabral was the son of Juan Cabral Rodriguez, a "gambusino" from Galicia, that arrived to the Jerez area in 1588 and married a native woman around 1600. But that is another story and I would love to get into it in a new post. Was this Juan Cabral from Galicia the origin of the tale you bring forth? We cannot discard it, but cannot assert it neither. I hope to comeback to the subject soon.

Jesús Cabral

If your Cabral gave origin to the Cabral name, he must've come before 1760. I have a Pedro Cabral married to Theresa Ortiz and theyre both from Jerez de Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico, but, they would've been born before your Juan Felipe Cabral probly close to 20 years before your cabral. they were born sometime in the 1740s. But i want to know about your Cabral cause if he is the first Cabral, he may be the father of my Cabral. Do you know who he was married to?

Danny C. Alonso

Bienvenido Irma Miraceti Jiménez Ugalde,

Somos primos lejanos muchas veces.

Maria de los Dolores Mora Perez no nació en 1912. Ella nació el 5/Oct/1909 y la bautizaron el 10/Oct/1909 en Ixtlahuacan del Rio, Jalisco, México.

Maria de los Dolores Mora desciende de Ygnacio de La Mora Gómez and Ana María Martin del Campo

Maria de los Dolores Mora Perez desciende del Rey Henry II of England & Reyna Eleanore of Aquitane

1)Henry II King of England and Eleanor of Aquitane Queen of England
2)Eleonore de Inglaterra, princesa de inglaterra and Alfonso VIII rey de Castilla
3 Berenguela de Castilla and Alfonso IX rey de Leon
4 San Fernando III rey de Castilla and Beatriz de Suavia ( Elizabeth Hohenstaufen)
5 Alfonso X Fernandez and Yolanda Aragon
6 Fernando infante de Castilla and Blanca de Francia Capet
7 Alfonso de la Cerda and Mahalda de Brienne
8 Luis de la Cerda, infante de Castilla and Leonor Alfonso de Guzman
9Juan de la Cerda and Sol Martinez
10 Martin Gonzalez de Cerda and Violante Alvarez Pereira
11 Mahalda de la Cerda y Fernan Gutierrez de Valverde
12 Mari Gutierrez de Valverde y de la Cerda and Gonzalo Porcallo De Morán
13 Beatriz Moran and Lorenzo Ulloa
14 Leonor Ulloa De la Cerda and Balthazar Mendoza Pantoja
15 Juan Pantoja Mendoza, conquistador and Catalina Medina (daughter of Domingo Medina)
16 Bernardina H. de Mendoza Pantoja Ulloa (b. about 1533) and Gonzalo Nuñez de Sotomayor
17 Juana Nuñez de Sotomayor and Capitan Diego de Ochoa Garibay
18 Francisca de Ochoa Garibai and Juan De La Mora y Aviña
19 Fernando de La Mora y Ochoa and Maria de La Mora
20 Juan de La Mora Zamora and Leonor Gutierrez de Hermosillo
21 Fernando de La Mora Gutierrez and Micaela de Alderete Gomez Hurtado
22 Ygnacio de La Mora Gómez and Ana María Martin del Campo
23 Xptobal Joseph Fernando de La Mora and Ma. Josefa Lugarda Gonzalez
24 Cayetano de la Mora González and Ma. Juliana Delgadillo
25 Ramon Mora Delgadillo and Ma. Del Rosario Martínez
26 Jesus Mora Martinez and Maria Rodriguez
27 Delfino Mora Rodríguez and Maria Sabina Perez
28 Maria de los Dolores Mora Perez

Buena suerte,
Ricardo A. Ricci
Source: book Mygenes2000

Here are two interesting court cases that may shed light on the ancestry of Pedro Yanguas and on the identity of the mother of Ana Carillo De Peralta Regada and of her half sister Ana De Peralta

First Case:
* Título: 
PEDRO DE YANGUAS Y ANA CARRILLO DE PERALTA contra GASTON DE PERALTA
* Serie: 
Procesos judiciales. Ochoa-Sentenciados
* Productor: 
CORTE MAYOR DE NAVARRA
* Fechas: 
1547.01.28 - 1547.08.12
* Lugar:
LOGROÑO - LA RIOJA - ESPAÑA
FALCES - NAVARRA - ESPAÑA
* Contenido: 
Pedro de Yanguas, regidor perpetuo de la ciudad de Logroño, y Ana Carrillo de Peralta, su mujer, contra Gaston de Peralta, marques de Falces, sobre entrega de 2.000 ducados de dote ofrecidos en el testamento de Alfonso Carrillo de Peralta, marques de Falces.

Second case:

Título: ANA DE PERALTA contra GASTON DE PERALTA
Serie: Procesos judiciales. Solano-Pendientes
Productor: CONSEJO REAL DE NAVARRA
Fechas: 1547.12.02 - 1553.12.31
Lugar:
Traibuenas - MURILLO EL CUENDE - NAVARRA - ESPAÑA
Rada - MURILLO EL CUENDE - NAVARRA - ESPAÑA
Contenido: Ana de Peralta, mujer de Tristan de Mauleon, señor de Traibuenas y Rada, contra Gaston de Peralta, su hermano, marques de Falces, sobre pago de 10.000 ducados de dote.
Características:
342 Folios
Referencia ES/NA/AGN/F017/086296

I would assume that the larger dote is for the legitimate daughter Ana, and the smaller dote for the illegitimate daughter Ana but that isn’t always the case. Sometimes the illegitimate children are given more.

Rick A. Ricci,
source: my book Mygenes2000

Hola Richard:

Yo creo que si puede ser el mismo Cristóbal que haya estado un tiempo en Guanajuato, estas familias tenían propiedades en varios lugares del país.

En mi familia tengo un caso parecido: uno de mis tíos nació en 1918 y su madre murió después del parto. Después de un año el padre se casó con una mujer de familia importante y volvieron a registrarlo en 1919. Mi tío tenía dos actas de nacimiento. Sus hijos veían que visitaba una tumba de una mujer pero nunca les dijo nada, llevaba el apellido de la segunda esposa.

Todo esto era un secreto y sus hijos lo descubrieron recientemente, casi 100 años después.
Gertrudis murió en Aguascalientes y se señala que es esposa de Cristóbal Villaseñor y que vivían en el puesto de San Miguel, en Aguascalientes.

México, Aguascalientes, registros parroquiales, 1620-1962, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N87P-B2K : 27 July 2015), Christobal Villaseñor in entry for Gertrudis, ; citing Death, Asunción de María, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico, parroquias Católicas, Aguascalientes (Catholic church parishes, Aguascalientes).

Creo que es más que una coincidencia que Gertrudis Villaseñor haya sido bautizada poco tiempo después de la muerte de la Gertrudis a que se refiere el registro citado.

Saludos

Marcelina

Hola Richard:

Creo que a Gertrudis se le cambió el apellido por la muerte de su madre, te expongo mi hipótesis.

La primera parte pertenece al árbol genealógico IN81-70K de Familysearch:

Juan de Villaseñor- Catalina de Cervantes

Francisco de Villaseñor Cervantes- Leonicia González y Reuss

Miguel de Villaseñor - María Figueroa

Gonzalo de Villaseñor- Juana Gomez

Gonzalo de Villaseñor- Theresa de Alba y Estrada Bocanegra
(Puruándiro, Michoacan 1636)
A partir de aquí son registros de Familysearch de Aguascalientes.

Gonzalo y Theresa se casan en Aguascalientes en 1683 M60484-5
son padres de
1685 Rosa María
1688 7 de septiembre Cristóbal
1692 Juan Mathias
1695 Lucía
1703 Gonzalo
Cristóbal se casa con Gertrudis de Olmedo, posiblemente mestiza.

Tienen una hija llamada Francisca Thomasa en Celaya el 22 de septiembre de 1722 (C60591-8) mestiza.

La hipótesis consiste en que tuvieron otra hija, en éste caso Gertrudis, pero la madre también Gertrudis muere el 7 de julio de 1724. ¿podría haber muerto de parto?

A partir de sus muerte pudieron ponerle a la hija otro apellido.

En fin, es una hipótesis que habría que comprobar, pero si liga a Gertrudis con la familia Villaseñor.
Saludos

Marcelina

postdata Gonzalo de Villaseñor muere en Aguascalientes el 6 de agosto de 1733.

I have had a couple of interactions with this user over the last two years, both around my 5th great-grandfather, Pedro de los Reyes and his son, Vicente Irineo Reyes, and grandson Jose Eustaquio Reyes. I'd spent a ton of time compiling records and putting this family together, tying in original sources (before they had them indexed, even), and making sure that everyone was documented. In the course of one day, this user destroyed all of that work and took everyone apart as family.

Then when confronted about it, and clearly showing that the changes were made by them, they denied it and claimed it was others ruining their work. Whoever the person has said to me on more than one occasion that they live in California. They have also asked, more than once, if I am a member of the LDS church, which makes me feel almost certain that they are a church member. In one of our exchanges, she referred to a user "Nuestro Ranchos" that was making changes and stated her opinion that this was a company based out of Anaheim. The biggest thing that I've noticed is that they are very protective of their "work" because they will place notes in the bios of people telling others not to touch and to "RESPECT" their ancestors. Meanwhile, I'm asking for her to provide proof of what she has, but to no avail.

También he encontrado a MariaJimenez93 y MBarreno ;)

Thank you for pointing this out. I have seen Mbarrena many times. She also wrote to me once, she said she was from California, I think and her name was Maria. That's all she would give me, when I asked her who her parents were etc, she just did not want to tell me. Thank you
Elma Ramos

Thanks for the alert about this. I find that I am relying on the FamilySearch trees less and less as I find more and more cases of inaccuracy.

FamilySearch allowed someone to change my step-father's record to show he had died when in fact he was still alive. While FamilySearch allowed that person to make this change without any oversight, they made me jump through hoops to verify that he was still alive so that I could change his record back to reality.

If I do look at FamilySearch, I accept nothing at all without verifying it on my own. And I see many cases of errors. I keep my master trees on Ancestry and allow no one else to modify it. I document all of the core persons' information, including writing research notes where the documents leave questions or are in conflict. The people at the periphery of my tree may be in various states of reliability, but people seeing my tree can count on solid ground for my core people. FamilySearch trees have no real way to prevent corruption, either intentional or not.

First off, thanks Joseph for posting link to this Padron which has loads of valuable information. I came across this Padron years ago and forgot about it.

Looking through it, I had a question about other terms from this page (803)(https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDG-4SGV?i=802&cat=68…)

"Chuiquitero" is it a worker who makes chiquihuites or hand woven baskets?

I recognize the other terms like "petatero" person who makes petates, labrador, etc... but never came across "chiquitero"

Also, at the top of page, what do they mean by "hijos tributarios"? Is this like volunteer work for the church in lieu of something?

Thanks

Ruben Rojas

In my understanding Cas° means "casado" and Suh means "Su hijo" and Sumuj "Su mujer" then others means Su hermana, Su criada, su sirviente, su esclava etc... and then yes and clearly: "su cajero" but it is hard to guess what it actually means, probably there is business in the house and they take care of the accounts or something like that.

1) cajero = merchant clerk

I get this from #12: https://bit.ly/2Y1hVyv

2) I agree with Esther -- what looks like "Fixuto or Fixoto or Sixoto" is sirv.ta, an abbreviation for sirvienta, a female servant. Riestra and Naredo are surnames I'm familiar with -- both have existed in Tlaltenango, for example. It's an N, because you can compare the way the letter is written to other H's and N's in the record. If you look at Nuñez and Herrera on the same page, you'll notice a subtle difference: with H's, there is a horizontal straight line through the middle of the letter. With N's, there is bow/curve and you can tell the pen was never lifted from the paper. Also, the same surname was written with a fairly legible "n" in the lower case.

Hi Joseph,

For the one that you can't make out at the bottom, "Fixuto or Fixoto or Sixoto", I think it might be Sirvta (sirvieta). It's only on the female names and they do not have a last name. Just a thought.

Thank you,
Esther

My understanding is that DNA test are very accurate, but one thing is the test and a completely different thing is the attribution of it to specific ethnicities and as has been said this is very estimative and not highly accurate because it depends on samples in data bases that may or may not be accurate and if there is not big differences in tests from one company to another, the interpretations are very fussy. That been said, the ethnicity attribution is just indicative and a good one. On the particular thing about andean native, probably there are similarities between north and southamerica, similarities that are evident. Also, exchanges between Mexico and Peru in colonial times were rather intense and the route between Acapulco and Callao was well trodden.

Hi Cruzmeza,
I dont know which company you used for your DNA test. I made my DNA test with MyHeritage, my wife who is French and our grand-son did it also and the results are very logical.
I dont understand how you can have 12 percent Peruvian, unless the database used by your provider found that in Peru there are some people with the same genome as you which is a wrong way to determine your ancestry.
Normally less that 5 percent can be erroneous but 12 percent is strange.
Historically, the Peruvian conquest was organized from the Pacific coast of Mexico (I have some ancestors who died in Peru) but I dont have any information of bringing people from Peru to Mexico.
Regards.
Jorge

DNA is as accurate as the availability of samples in existence, is still at some degree in its infancy, thus I wouldn't keep thinking around the results too much if they seem off. In an interview I heard on npr a while ago mentioned how inaccurate was when applied to genealogy, a lot of Hispanic, Asians and other non white groups kept getting European, and the reason was because those were the only samples they had, at some point many ethical groups will relate, but we are talking in the thousands of years.

If that specific place where you got tested doesn't had closer samples to compare with your DNA it will give you the closest possible even if in terms of genealogy, isn't really that close. Is obvious that all indigenous groups of the American continent will share DNA that comes from the days of the "Beringia" settlements, then it might be that is just the indigenous DNA of the Nueva Galicia area that happen to be similar to the Peruvian.

A acquaintance got some tests years ago, in one place got Asian, and in other got Hispanic, the only thing that changed was the last name used, this person is from the Philippines, thus even with samples, the companies simply assumed that those belonged to either or, when in fact was likely both. I don't know the details though, but again, don't stress too much for it, records finding still the most rewarding part genealogy. :)

Hello. My AncestryDNA results indicate 1% ethnicity estimate to Indigenous Americas—Bolivia & Perú. I really didn't expect that, but being that our early ancestors on this side of the globe traveled a lot, it kinda made sense.

Regarding not finding any indicators of strictly "Peruvian" descent, I suspect the Spanish authorities during the Viceroyalty of Nueva Granada, as from Nueva Galicia, wouldn't categorize native Americans based on their location, but rather generalized them as you've indicated.

Please keep in mind that this is my theory. I'm not a professional genealogist, but I'm sure someone on this forum can enlight us both.

Enrique,

Para poder ayudarte necesitamos nombres y fechas de tus abuelos si tenian hermanos y como se llamaban de que pueblo eran..si sabes como se llamaban sus padres, a veces aunque sea un solo nombre hace la diferencia hasta en años de búsqueda, porque por apellido y por zona está muy general, con gusto te orientamos ..Leticia Reynoso

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Buenos días Rodolfo,

Mi mamá es originaria de Calvillo y por ende descendiente de la mayoría de aquella población pequeña de españoles. Da. María Josefa Ruiz de Salazar y Valdivia es la hija de mi sexto tío bisabuelos. Esta como señalas fue mujer de don José Antonio Muñoz de Hermosillo y Alonso de los Hinojos. Su padre fue don José María Ruiz de Salazar es hijo de mi antepasados don Juan Ramón Ruiz de Salazar y doña Gertrudis de Velasco.

Los Ruiz de Tagle son interesantes. Me imagino que esta María debió ser pariente cercano de don José Manuel Ruiz de Tagle y Rendón el cual casó doña Rosalía del Aguila y López de Nava en Calvillo el 2 de julio de 1791. Tengo la sospecha que éste debió ser nieto de don Domingo Ruiz de Tagle y doña Ignacia de Cruzat, Marqueses de Selva Nevada, pero no he dedicado tiempo para estudiarlo.

Daniel Méndez de Torres y Camino

En la acta de bautizo de José Bernardino de la Trinidad Muñoz, sus Padres son Miguel Nuñez y Nicolasa del Carmen ESPARZA.

El Padrino es Miguel Antonio Muñoz. Este Padrino puede ser la llave para descubrir los antepasados de Miguel Muñoz.

1.)-Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Maria de Muñoz are the parents of
Francisco Muñoz de Cabeza

2.)-Farncisco Muñoz de Cabeza and Francisca de Torres are the parents of Miguel Muñoz de Hermosillo

3.)-Miguel Muñoz de Hermosillo and Maria Camarena are the parents of Miguel Muñoz de Hermosillo.

4.)-Miguel Muñoz de Hermosillo and Regina de Villaseñor de Cuevas are the parents of Manuel Muñoz de Hermosillo.

5.)- Manuel Muñoz de Hermosillo and Ines Gutierrez de Mendoza are the parents of Miguel Antonio de Hermosillo.

6.)- Miguel Antonio Muñoz de Hermosillo is the Padrino to José Bernadino de la Trinidad which leads me to believe that he is possibly Bernardino’s paternal grandfather.
Miguel Antonio Muñoz de Hermosillo married Juana Maria Macias Valdez

7.)- Miguel Muñoz and Nicolasa (María) del Carmen ESPARZA (aka Alonso)

8.)- José Bernardo de la Trinidad Muñoz

Rick A. Ricci

Aqui esta la acta de bautizo de Josef Joachin Maximo Muñoz de Esparza, español, hijo legitimo de Miguel Muñoz y Maria del Carmel Esparza.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DB1Q-RGG?i=191&cc=1502…

https://sg30p0.familysearch.org/service/records/storage/dascloud/das/v2…

En esta acta de Matrimonio Joaquin Muñoz se nombra su Padres como Miguel Muñoz y Maria del Carmen Alonso.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-691S-GRR?i=431&cc=1502…

1) Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Maria de Muñoz are the parents of
Francisco Muñoz de Cabeza

2) Farncisco Muñoz de Cabeza and Francisca de Torres are the parents of Miguel Muñoz de Hermosillo

3) Miguel Muñoz de Hermosillo and Maria Camarena are the ancestors to many Miguel Muñoz de Hermosillo.

More research needs to be done to find each link.

There is more information on M. Carmen Alonso:

Carmen Alonso is the daughter of Antonio Alonzo and Josefa Alonso

Antonio Alonso is the son of juan Alonso de los Hinojos and Veronica Lopez Castañeda

Juan Alonso de los Hinojos is the son of Capitan Pedro de los Hinojos and Ana Diaz de Medel D.

Capitan Pedro Alonso de los Hinojos

Pedro Alonso de Hinijosos had multiple marriages. The parents of M. del Carmen Alonso are related, both descending from Pedro Alonso De Hinojoso.

Through Josefa there is also a Diaz de Leon and Sotomayor ancestry.

It seems that Maria Del Carmen (del Carmel) Alonso also used the surname “de ESPARZA.”
Happy Halloween,

Rick A. Ricci

Hi Joseph,

I am really having a hard time understanding the people that have logged into the site and have found there family history
that can't spare $10.
Iam sure a lot of users pay Ancestry.com 2-3 hundred a year and have turned to Nuestros Ranchos because they were unable to find there family history on Ancestry. I for one have connected with other users and have found much more family history
through NR than on other ancestry sites.

You and I have communicated through emails and if I can help you on additional donations, please let me know.

" COME ON FELLOW USERS LETS FIND THAT SPIRIT OF GIVING SO WE ALL CAN CONTINUE TO SEARCH ON THIS GREAT SITE"

George Esqueda

Sí, FamilySearch tiene esa parroquia designada como Purísima Concepción de Ciénega de Mata, ubicada en Ojuelos de Jalisco, pero es de la Diócesis de Aguascalientes.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index?owc=3JHF-16X%3A17193660…

Saludos,
Manny Díez Hermosillo

Hi,

If website money is achieved, will any content be lost when/if website is updated? Old forum topics, GEDCOM files, links, etc..?

Thanks
R Rojas

My money is in the mail

How do we donate?

Solo como nota, les comento que en los últimos meses he estado corrigiendo mas de 500 personas ancestros míos (y de muchos otros claro está) que han sido cambiados por el usuario "mbarrena", desconozco su intención pero esta claro que ésta persona lo hace sabiendo que la información que añade is incorrecta cuando no ridícula.

Ése registro en el enlace es una muestra perfecta de éste problema, éste usuario usa otros nombres también para tratar de despistar su identidad.

Cada ves que veas ese nombre, ó "Nueva Galicia now Jalisco" ó similar en el lugar de nacimiento, sabrás que la información ha sido corrompida, a veces al grado que se necesita comenzar de cero, por lo que la debes de dudar casi completamente.

Saludos y Suerte!

Tengo estas familias bien documentadas:

Luis de Medina Valdivia y María Fernández de Vaulús no tuvieron ningún hijo llamado Nicolás de Medina; esta persona no existe.
Leonor Becerra, hija de Juan de Luévana y María López de Lisardi, estaba casada con Juan Fernández de Vaulús, que era hermano de María Fernández de Vaulús.
No se sabe si Luis de Medina Valdivia era hijo de Antonio de Medina Rincón y María de Valdivia Romero. Su ascendencia aún se desconoce.
La ascendencia de Cristóbal de Medina Valdivia también se desconoce, y no se ha encontrado documentación que establezca una relación entre él y Luis de Medina.

La información proporcionada en esa genealogía es incorrecta y debe cambiarse.

Un cordial saludo,
Manny Díez Hermosillo

I check NR weekly (minimum 2 x week, not always logged in) to see if there is anything relevant for my geneaolgy research lines. Like many others, I would never haves learned about PARES or Guadalajara dispensas without NR. Also, many in the forum have contributed key info in posts on the Romo de Vivar line and other lines, info which I could not have found myself, for which I am grateful. I also just enjoy reading stories of families, of specific women and men (thanks Rick!) - these stories are windows to distant times and places which otherwise would be hard to imagine without the life stories of individuals.

Best Regards
Denise

Saludos Erik,

Jaime Holcombe también escribió que Sebastián Reynoso es hijo del capitán Francisco de Reynoso y Padilla-Dávila y de Josefa de Rentería y Valdés. Jaime Holcombe apunto notas en las hojas de genealogía que entregó a la iglesia de “Latter Day Saints”.

Gracias,
Ricardo A. Ricci

Hola León,

Me interesó bastante tu publicación. Podrías darme un poco más de información. Para saber quién es el tal Antonio de Rojas y Sandoval. Si no me equivoco, el linaje Rojas de donde desciende María Rojas (López-Portillo) es el siguiente (me permito usar los apellidos sencillos y excluir la rama femenina a partir de cierto punto):

1. María Rojas (de López-Portillo)
2. Vicente Rojas Jiménez cc María Flores Alatorre
3. Ignacio Rojas Anda cc María Jiménez
4. Pedro José Rojas y Sánchez Banales cc Antonio de Anda Altamirano
5. José Rojas y Beltrán Dorantes
6. Pedro Rojas y Gallaga Mandarte
7. Juan José de Rojas y Sandoval

Según tus investigaciones dónde iría el tal Antonio de Rojas y Sandoval. O bien dónde diferimos en el árbol.
Saludos, Daniel.

I have Florencio Magallanes and Martina Luera as the parents of Camilo Magallanes.

I have Higinio Franco and Telesfora Gómez as the parents of Francisca Franco.

This information comes from the baptismal record of Maria Placida Magallanes Franco.

Good Luck in your research,
Rick A. Ricci

Hello Joseph,

With regards to the new update, I found this:

"Drupal 9 is built in Drupal 8, using deprecations and optional updated dependencies. ... Drupal 9.0 involves the removal of some deprecated code, but introduces no new features; it's a continuation of the fully-tested, stable codebase that is Drupal 8."

https://www.lullabot.com/articles/should-you-upgrade-drupal7-drupal9

There is more insightful information on that website. If you're currently on Drupal 7, or even 8, I'd say go with the update. If the ISP can work with it, then it'll be a good choice to upgrade.

Can I pay with Venmo?

Thank you,
Esther

Do you have an email associated with a PayPal account? I can send you the $10 via PayPal. It's faster.

Put me down for $10.
Thank you for continuing this website.

FYI,

My check is in the mail, Joseph.

Sergio

FYI,

My check is in the mail, Joseph.

Sergio

Joseph,

I will happily contribute. Just a question of clarification. Do you want 30 people as evidence of the breadth of commitment to Nuestros Ranchos or do you just want to make sure the $300 gets covered?

To our Members, I encourage us that if some of us have the means to contribute more than $10 we can and should do so, and if those of you that can contribute $10, should do so.

Thanks, Joseph, for all you have done and are doing. We stand with you.

Sergio

I will contribute. Please let me know where to send the contribution. Thank you for all your work on this website.

.
my check is in the mail
and thank you and Arturo for
keeping this wonderful website online
for so long
Erlinda Castanon-Long

let me know as well where to send.

To what address do I send the money for the website? Thank you