Hello Joseph,

I sent you an email message with my new email, and an explanation of the issues with the old email.   Please read it and contact me when you can.

Rick A. Ricci

Hello Joseph,

I sent you an email message with my new email, and an explanation of the issues with the old email.   Please read it and contact me when you can.

Rick A. Ricci

Rick, Edward's no. 12 is my 8th great-grandfather :) Btw, what is the source for saying he was born in Chalco? 

Saludos Edward y Leonardo,

Saludos Leonardo y Edward,

After reading the nobilario, I had more questions in my mind that led me back to Leonardo’s and Edward’s questions regarding the Osorio ancestry, so I went back to my notes and did more research.   I had originally told Edward that I believed that the Rojano/Riojano surname came from a “de Rojas” ancestry in our Osorio line.  But when I went back to look at out ancestral line with Maria Fernandez de Villalobos as Pedro Alvarez de Osorio’s wife I couldn’t find the Rojas line.   Then Leonardo questioned the ancestry.  Those thoughts were lingering as a cloud as I read the nobilario.  So yes the line starts with Juan Alvarez Osorio and his wife Aldonza de Guzman, but the nobilario doesn’t mention the wives names of Pedro Alvarez Osorio and Alvar Perez Osorio.   So I did more research which is hard on this family because there were so many Rodrigo, Alvaro, and Pedro Osorios in the family.  And it turns out that I needed to merge some of the Pedro Alvarez Osorios that I had researched.     Pedro Alvarez Osorio, son of Juan Alvarez Osorio and Aldonza Guzman, had at least four wives.    The book Anales de la Real Academia Matritense de Heraldica y Genealogia IV (1996-1997) does not even list Maria Fernandez de Villalobos as one of his wives, but she is found in other documents as his wife.     But this book specifically states that Alvaro Perez Osorio is the son of one of his other wives, Isabel de Rojas (daughter of Martin Sanchez de Rojas III, Señor de Monzon, and his wife Elvira Manrique).   This book also says that Alvar Perez Osorio had children  with Isabel de Losada out of wedlock.

So the tree looks like this:

1.)- Juan Alvarez Osorio + Aldonza Guzman

2.)- Pedro Alvarez Osorio + 

3.)- Alvar Perez Osorio + 

4.)- Martin Alvarez Osorio + Mariana Lopez Narices

5.)- Christóbal Diaz Narices + Estefanía Rodriguez

6.)- “el conquistador” Martin Lopez Osorio


1. Edward Rojano

2. Father (living)

3.Pedro Rojano Parra: born 18 October 1921, San Juan de Amula, Jalisco; died 10 October 2024 in Oceanside, CA.

4. Margarito Rojano Castillo: born 10 June 1888 El Límon, Jalisco; died 21 July 1934 in San Juan de Amula, El Límon, Jalisco.

5. Juan Cornejo Garcia  (also known as Juan Rojano Garcia): born 26 November 1847 in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco; died 27 April 1900 in Ejutla, Jalisco.

6. José Remigio Cornejo Tostado (also known as Remigio Rojano): born 30 September 1824 in Coca, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco; died 17 November 1892 in Ejutla, Jalisco.

7. José Ramón Nonato Cornejo Franco (also known as Ramon Rojano): born 1795 in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco; deceased in. Jalostotitlan, Jalisco

8. José Servando Cornejo Ramírez de Hermosillo: born 1755 in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco; deceased in 1833 Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.

9. José Fulgencio Cornejo Romo: born January 1730 in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco; died 20 January 1793 in. Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.

10. Salvador Cornejo Ramírez: born 1689 in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco; died 28 June 1740 Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.

11. Antonio Cornejo Riojano: born 1658; died 14 June 1732 in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.

12. Alonso de Cornejo: born about 1600 in Chalco, Mexico; died November 1671 Mexico City.

13. Fernando de Gordíbar Osorio: born about 1550; deceased.

14. Martín Lopez Osorio (also known as Lope de Osorio) Conquistador de la Nueva España: born about 1493 in Sevilla, Spain; died approximately 1573

15.)- Christóbal Diaz Narices + Estefanía Rodriguez

16.)- Martin Alvarez Osorio + Mariana Lopez Narices
 

17. Álvaro Pérez Osorio “El Cojo”: born approx. 1348 en el Reino de León; deceased approx. 1406.   + 

18. Pedro Álvarez Osorio: born approx. 1303 in Reino de Castilla y León; deceased 14 November 1360 en Villanubla, Valladolid, Reino de Castilla y León. “Era adelantado mayor de tierra de León y Merino de Asturias cuando el rey don Pedro mandó darle muerte en Villanubla el 14 de Noviembre de 1360. MARTÍN FUERTES, Los Osario, op. cit. pág. 29. + Isabel De Rojas,  (daughter of Martin Sanchez de Rojas III, Señor de Monzon, and his wife Elvira Manrique).

19. Juan Álvarez Osorio: born approx. 1275 in Villaornate y Castro, Reino de Castilla y León; Deceaced approx. 1328.  + Aldonza Guzman.

20. Álvaro Rodríguez Osorio: born approx. 1235 in Villaornate y Castro, Reino de Castilla y León; Deceaced approx. in Benavente, Zamora, Castilla y León 1321.

21. Rodrigo Rodríguez Osorio: born approx.1200 in Astorga, Reino de León; deceased approx 1273. Took part in the conquest of Sevilla against the moors. Figura entre los donadíos adjudicados en el lugar de Bi~ena: a Rodrigo Rodríguez, fijode Rodrigo Osores, quarenta aranzadas e seis yugadas, anno e vez, e cambiarogelo en Behar (pág. 37) e igualmente en Soca~et: a Rodrigo Rodríguez Osores quarenta aranzadas e un par de casas, e cambiogelo despues en Behar (pág. 38). Igualmente figura con otras cuarenta yugadas en Alaquaz, donde es citado tras Diego López de Salcedo y Sancho Martínez de Xodar (pág. 156). En las dos primeras menciones aparece seguido de Martín González, fijo de Gonzalo Osores, y en la segunda se añade su primo (véase GONZÁLEZ, Repartimiento de Sevilla, op. cit. 11).

22. Rodrigo Osorio: born about 1166; deceased approx. From, Los Osorioun Linaje de Mas de Mil Años al Servicio de la Corona por Haime de Salazar y Acha, “XI-RODRIGO OSORIO, del que no sabemos casi nada. Estaba ya muerto en 1261, año en que su viuda y sus hijos pleitearon por San Román de Ornilla. Ella se llamaba doña EL VIRA FERNÁNDEZ<82

82.- Sobre esta generación nos ilustran dos documentos de San Pedro de Montes de 10 de junio de 1261 y de 26 de enero de 1272. El primero es una sentencia de Alfonso X sobre unas pro-

piedades en San Román de Ornilla, tras un pleito entre San Pedró de Montes y donna Elvira Ferrandez e sos fijos Rodrigo Rodriguez e Alvar Rodriguez. El segundo completa el anterior y se trata de la avenencia entre estos últimos,.fiyos de Rodrigo Osoyris e de donna Elvira Fernandez e de su tía donna Orraca Osoyriz e de Martin Gonzalez de Laguna e de suos herederos, con dicho monasterio. Parece claro que el tal Martín González es el primo citado como tal en el repartimiento de Sevilla (véase QUINTANA, San Pedro de Montes, op. cit. docs. 350 y 363, págs. 450 y465).

 23. Osorio González Señor de Villalobos (also known as Gonzalo Osórez) born approx 1130 ; died 30 May 1138.

24. El Conde Osorio Martínez: born approx 1108 in Villalobos, Zamora, Reino de Castilla y León; died in the battle of Lobregal 1st February of 1160 in Villabrámiga, Valladolid, Reino de Castilla y León.

25. El Conde Martín Flaínez: born before 1065; died battle of Uclés 30 May 1108 in the locality of Uclés.

26. El Conde Flaín Fernández: born approx. 1020 in Reino de León; died shortly after 1170.

27. El Conde Fernando Flaínez: born before 999 in Cea, Reino de León; died around 1053.

28. El Conde Flaín Muñoz (also knows as Flaín Nuñez in La Historia Roderici): born before 975; died before 1003.

29. Munio Flaínez (also known as Nuño Flaínez in La Historia Roderici: born before 943; died unknown, after 962 ( last documentation in the court was 962).

30. Flaín Ectaz: born approx. 932; died approx. 950.

31. Ecta: born in the first years of 10th  century; died unknown

Rick A. Ricci

Book: Mygenes2000

Hello Edward,

Martin Lopez Osorio’s family tree goes much farther in records according to an old book I read many years ago.  The book states the the lineage can be found in another book that is at the Smithsonian Library.   One day I will make it out there and look for that book.  

You and I are fifth cousins.  

Rick A. Ricci

Thanks for the kind words Joseph!   There is so much info that has been contributed to this site by the membership for over 22 years now!  I am a little bit selfish in wanting to keep the site running, so others can enjoy it (and learn) as much as I do. There are some excellent researchers that participate via this site; and I am always grateful to contribute where I can. 

Could not find a marriage record for Juan Estrada and Francisca Hernandes, but did find at least 4 children of theirs.

Mariano Estrada, Simona Estrada, Maria Matilde Estrada, and Claro Estrada.   Of these 4 children only Claro Estrada's baptism record was found. This record not only provided the names of his parents, Juan Estrada and Francisca Hernandes, but the names of his paternal/maternal grand-parents. In this record Juan's father was listed as Mariano Estrada and his mother as Luisa Reyes [Surname Ramires was stated in the death record]. Francisca's father was noted as Marcelino Hernandes and mother was Apolonia Medina (Surname in other records noted as Almansa).  The link for Claro's baptism record is listed below. 

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-4KS6-L?cc=1804458

Now that we know who the parents of Juan Estrada are, we begin looking for links for Mariano Estrada and wife Luisa Reyes/Ramires

Luckily one baptism record was found for Maria Epifania del Refugio Estrada (Juan's sister), who was baptised in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico on 9 April 1825. The record stated that she was born on 6 April 1825 in Hacienda de Las Juntas (Located within Teocaltiche Jurisdiction). The record did not provide a lot of information as to parentage, only listing the mother of Mariano Estrada as Josefa Estrada (father unknown). Both parents of Luisa Reyes were unknown.

The link for Epifania's baptism record is listed below:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-G57Q-8B?cc=1874591

Mariano Estrada is next found in San Jose de Gracia, Rincon de Romos, Aguascalientes, Mexico in 1833, where he died.  His burial record is listed on 1 Jan 1833. He died in El Rio (within San Jose de Gracia jurisdiction). His cause of death was listed as Colico (Colic). He was listed as 70 years of age in 1833, placing his year of birth around 1763. Also listed on this record was wife Maria Luisa de Reyes. The link for his burial record is included below.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-63V3-TTH?cc=1502404
 

A couple of points for the last burial record is that he was much older then originally thought. First, Mariano was having children in 1825 and again about 1831, only a few years before he died in 1833. Maria Luisa de Reyes/Ramires must have been a bit younger to have children this late. This may also explain the lack of information that Juan Estrada had with regard to his father, who was only about 2 years old when he died.  It may also be probable that Mariano was married prior to his marriage with Luisa.

Moving on to the parentage of Francisca Hernandes.  We know from records listed above that her parents were Marcelino Hernandes and Maria Apolonia Almansa/Medina.

In the 1824 Ojo Caliente Padron (census), the parents of Francisca Hernandes were listed, in the area of San Diego (Zacatecas). Marcelino Hernandes was listed as age 21 (born around 1803) and Apolonia (Polonia) Almaras was listed as age 16 (born around 1803).  This census area has many Estrada and Hernandes families, likely with some ties with some of them.  At least 1 child of Marcelino/Apolonia is listed in baptism records in 1842 San Jose de Gracia (Rincon de Romos) records.  The record only names the father of Marcelino as Bacilo Hernandes, but lists the parentage of Apolonia Almansa as Ygnacio Almansa/Manuela Sanches. Bacilio's wife is noted as Paula Ybarra in the 1824 census. The Padron (census) link is included below:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BF-295Y?cat=32677&i=130

That is all the info I have found on the elder families.  

First of all welcome to the site!  The information you provided leaves very little to go on, but I will try to see if the Juan Estrada you have mentioned is from your family branch. My initial curiosity was in looking for any Juchipila "Estrada" family connections, which it does not appear there are any. 

The only Juan Estrada that died on 8 May 1863 in Zacatecas, Mexico is of Guadalupe, Zacatecas, Mexico, listed in Civil Records (See Link below). Juan Estrada was listed as a bricklayer, 32 years old, and it was stated within the death record that he was originally from San Joseph de Yslas, which is now Genaro Codina (Zacatecas). I believe early records are also found for this general area in Ojo Caliente (Zacatecas), Panuco (Zacatecas), and Calera Victor Rosales (Zacatecas).  Nearly all of these locations have incomplete genealogy records, so gathering information can be tough.  The death record also mentioned that Juan Estrada left a widow in Francisca Hernandes(z). The officials noted they didn't know who the father of Juan Estrada was, but that his mother was Luisa Ramires. It does not appear that any Estrada or Hernandes(z) family members were listed as contributing to this death record, which can often leave gaps or slightly inaccurate family info. If this is the correct family, I will try to provide more info once I know this is who you're interested in.  

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G5V5-F3S?cc=1916240