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After nearly a dozen years of looking for clues, I’ve finally broken down a wall that had perplexed me. My 5g grandparents, Eugenio Rufino Galván and María Dolores Fernández, lived in Sierra de Pinos, Zacatecas, during the last quarter of the 18th century. They also lived part of the time in Real de Catorce, Slp. They first appear in the Pinos parish records on 16 Mar 1776, when their children, Juan Joseph and Maria Josefa, were confirmed. Maria Dolores Fernandez died and was buried 26 Feb 1793 in Pinos; according to her burial record, she was originally from Silao, Gto. Eugenio Galván married a second time, to Maria Micaela Cordoba, on 10 Jun 1793, in Real de Catorce. According to his IM, he was about 53 years old (b. 1740) and he was also from Silao. 
I started dredging the archives of Silao looking for any clues. Though I found some Galvan’s and plenty of Fernandez’s, I could still find no sign of Eugenio Rufino, which is a really unique name. So I put this couple on the backburner. Every once in a while, I’d take them out and rummage around: there was another couple living in Pinos named Felipe de Santiago Galvan and Juana Francisca Xaviera Delgado. They were married 14 Aug 1738 in Guanajuato: he was from Silao and was the son of Bartolome Galvan and Josefa de Chagoya. They were old enough to be Eugenio’s parents, but I could find no contact between Eugenio and this family. There was also a Pablo de Jesus Galvan, who married Maria Asencion Lopez on 5 Feb 1758 in Pinos. He was also from Silao, and he was son of Bartolome Galvan and Juana Maria Sanchez. Again, there was no sign of any contact between Eugenio and this family.
Earlier this summer, I really started dredging the parish archives of Silao, looking through the baptisms, marriages and IMs. I found other persons surnamed Galvan, some who were the children of Bartolome Galvan cc Josefa de Chagoya, others who were children of Bartolome Galvan cc Juana Maria Sanchez aka Rivera. I was later able to determine that this Bartolome Galvan was the same person, and that he had married twice - first to Josefa Chagoya, around 1715, and then to Juana Maria Sanchez, around 1725. 
Throughout this, I could still find no record of a Eugenio Rufino Galvan marrying Maria Dolores Fernandez. But I DID find the IM of one Eugenio Rufino Juarez marrying a Maria Dolores Santoyo, dated 30 Oct 1761. He was the son of Bartolome Juarez and Ana Maria Sanchez, and she was hija de padres no conocidos. Could they possibly be my ancestors? Their first names coincided - and like I said, “Eugenio Rufino” is a rare enough name. And what a coincidence, that his parents were named BARTOLOME Juarez and Ana MARIA SANCHEZ: could they be the same BARTOLOME Galvan and Juana MARIA SANCHEZ? 
So I dug deeper and deeper. And finally, I found a record verifying that Bartolome Galvan and Bartolome Juarez were one and the same person: baptized on 7 Jul 1720 was Paula Josefa daughter of Bartolome Galvan and Josefa de Chagoya; when Paula Josefa married on 1 Aug 1735, she used the surname “Juarez” and she named her parents as Bartolome Juarez and Josefa de Chagoya! With this new information, I found more records, children of Bartolome Juarez and his two wives, finally hitting pay dirt with the baptism of Eugenio Rufino, hijo de Bartolome Juarez y de Juana Maria, 16 Sep 1742 - ¡GOL! ¡GOL! ¡GOL! ¡GOL! I even found the baptism records of the aforementioned Juan Joseph “Juarez” (b. 4 Feb 1762) and Maria Josefa “Juarez” (b 16 Jun 1764), both in Silao.

Just goes to show you: perseverance + patience + hard work = results!

The children of Bartolome Juarez aka Galvan (d. 14 Sep 1759, Silao Gto) cc Josefa de Chagoya (d. 6 Jun 1724, Silao Gto.

1. Juan Joseph Juarez, m. Marcela Quiteria Santos, 30 Jan 1729, Silao Gto.

2. Felipe de Santiago Galvan Chagoya m. Juana Francisca Xaviera Delgado, 14 Aug 1738, Santa Fe, Guanajuato.

3. Dorotea Gertrudis Juarez Chagoya, b. 20 Feb 1718, Silao Gto; im. Juan Nicolas de Castro y Garnica, 24 Sep 1734, Silao Gto; m2. Celedonio Victorino, 2 Mar 1756, Silao Gto.

4. Paula Josefa Galvan aka Juarez Chagoya, b. 7 Jul 1720, Silao Gto; m. Basilio Victoriano Valdes, 1 Aug 1735, Santa Fe, Guanajuato.

5. Maria Gertrudis de la Cruz Chagoya, b. 23 Sep 1722, Silao Gto. Note: on this record, the father is named as "Bartolome de la Cruz". Though I cant say with complete certainty that he is the same person, I can find no other record of a Josefa de Chagoya married to a Bartolome de la Cruz.  

The children of Bartolome Juarez aka Galvan cc Juana Maria Sanchez aka Rivera

1. Joseph Alberto Juarez Sanchez, b. 10 Apr 1726, Silao Gto; m. Maria Nicolasa de Avalos  
2. Maria Candida Susana Juarez Rivera, b. 25 Sep 1728, , Silao Gto.

3. Pablo de Jesus Galvan Sanchez, m. Maria Asencion Lopez, 5 Feb 1758, Pinos, Zac.

4. Joseph Gabriel Galvan Sanchez, b. 25 Mar 1734, Silao Gto.
5. Dario Tomas Juarez Sanchez, b. 7 Jan 1737, Silao Gto; m. Josefa Joaquina Fernandez, 3 Mar 1778, Silao Gto.

6. Luis Seferino Juarez Sanchez, b. 2 Sep 1739, Silao Gto.

7. Eugenio Rufino Juarez aka Galvan, b. 16 Sep 1742, Silao Gto; im1. Maria Dolores Santoyo aka Fernandez, 30 Oct 1761, Silao Gto; m2. Maria Micaela Cordoba, 10 Jun 1793, Catorce Slp.
8. Juana Apolonia Juarez Rivera, b. 23 Feb 1745, Silao Gto.


The children of Eugenio Rufino Juarez aka Galvan cc Maria Dolores Santoyo aka Fernandez

1.  Juan Joseph Galvan Fernandez, b. 4 Feb 1762, Silao Gto.

2. Maria Josefa Gervasia Galvan Fernandez, b. 1 Jul 1764, Silao Gto; m. Joaquin Gaitan Muñoz

3. Maria de los Reyes Galvan Hernandez, d. 22 Sep 1819, Catorce Slp; m. Francisco Casiano Villanueva Cepeda

4. José de la Luz Galvan Fernandez, m. Jacinta Camacho Salazar, 5 Mar 1807, Catorce Slp.

5. Maria Anna Josefa Mendez Fernandez, m. Antonio Abad del Castillo Aguayo, 26 Apr 1802, Catorce Slp.


I descend from Maria Josefa Galvan, who married Joaquin Gaitan, of Sierra de Pinos, around 1781.

Burial of Maria Dolores Fernandez
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-BM35-B?i=688&wc=MC76-1…
IM de Eugenio Rufino Galvan y Maria Micaela Cordoba
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GGL6-DY?i=44&wc=3PHV-8…
IM de Eugenio Rufino Juarez y Maria de los Dolores Santoyo
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GG5R-479?i=371&wc=3VHJ…
Bautismo de Eugenio Rufino Juarez
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GG2F-KVW?i=124&wc=3VH8…

Saludos!
Manny Díez Hermosillo

Who is this Bernardino de Sandoval who was born approximately in the 1630s? I am not sure if I am reading the documents right, but it seems Jeromino de Sandoval (Magdalena de Lavezares) has a brother name Bernardino.

From the first section of documents, 

1. Jeromino de Sandoval is the son of Catalina Cortes - image 129 of 512
2. Juan and Cristobal de Sandoval are brothers, sons of Jeromino de Sandoval - image 130 of 512

Then from second section of documents,  

3. I believe it says Bernardino de Sandoval is the uncle of Juan de Sandoval - image 325 of 512, left side, third line from the bottom.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-6SH1-F?i=324&cat=278176

From the 1649 padrones, there are 4 Bernardinos present in Nochistlan. 

1. Bernardino de Isla - decreased by 1690
2. Bernardino de Sandoval, son of Nicolas de Sandoval - deceased by 1690.
3. Bernardino de Isla - N
4. Bernardino de Isla - N

Hola prim@s,

In the past couple of years, I’ve been able to accumulate bits and pieces of information regarding the immediate descendants of Cristobal Navarro, which I thought I’d share here.

That he was the brother of Francisca and Maria Gabay, we learned from these two documents (Note: if any of you know of any other documents linking him to them, please feel free to share. Thanks!):

• Dispensation of Joseph de Torres and Elvira de Ulloa, 5 Jan 1689. The bride and groom were great-grandchildren of siblings Cristobal Navarro and Francisca Gabay.
• IM of Geronimo de los Rios and Francisca de Siordia, 25 Feb 1681. The groom and bride were at 3 with 5 degrees consanguinity, because his grandfather, Cristobal Navarro, was the brother of her great-great grandmother, Maria Navarro (Gabay).

The relationships given in both of these documents link to Cristobal Navarro through his daughter, Maria Navarro, who was said to be his hija natural, her mother’s name is not given. This implies that Cristobal Navarro wasn’t married - another explanation for why he never appears in church archives.

Seeing how his daughter lived in Teocaltiche, I image that he lived there, too. On 16 May 1634, in Teocaltiche, a Cristobal Navarro appeared as the padrino for the confirmation of Luis, son of Esteban Tejeda and Luisa Delgadillo. I also located a document, dated 19 Jun 1640, regarding a “Cristobal Navarro, vezino y labrador en su hazienda de la Mendosina deste Valle,” and the diezmos (tributes) he had paid the previous year of 1639. I don’t know if these are the same Cristobal Navarro.

MARIA NAVARRO

His daughter, Maria Navarro, aka Maria Gabay, was married to Joseph de la Cruz. They married around 1625, and had at least 8 children:

• Petrona Navarro, m. Nicolas Yepes
• Josepha de los Rios Cruz, c. 16 May 1634, Nʳª Sʳª de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jal; m. Juan de Torres, 27 Apr 1646, Nʳª Sʳª de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jal.
• Tomasa de la Cruz, c. 16 May 1634, Nʳª Sʳª de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jal; m. Mateo Perez de Frias.
• Martin de la Cruz, c. 16 May 1634, Nʳª Sʳª de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jal; m. Jacinta de Moya e Yañez
• Teresa de la Cruz, c. 29 Jun 1648, Nʳª Sʳª de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jal.
• Juan de la Cruz, b. 30 May 1640, c. 29 Jun 1648, Nʳª Sʳª de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jal.
• Ana de la Cruz, c. 29 Jun 1648, Nʳª Sʳª de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jal.
• Maria de la Cruz, c. 29 Jun 1648, Nʳª Sʳª de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jal.

After the death of her husband, Maria Navarro was involved with Rodrigo Osorio de los Rios, a relationship which resulted in the birth of at least one illegitimate child:

• Geronimo Osorio de los Rios, born ca 1648, m1. Juana de Ornelas y Mendoza, 03 Feb 1669, Nʳª Sʳª de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jal; m2. Francisca de Siordia, 09 Mar 1681, Nochistlan, Zac.

Several of Maria Navarro’s children and grandchildren appear in the 1681 padron of Teocaltiche, while others ended up in Mexticacan.

I hope you all find this useful!

Manny Díez Hermosillo

Soy descendiente de don Domingo Hernández Gamiño y Juana Bravo de Laguna, por lo que he estado investigando a esta familia.
Don Domingo era hijo de Domingo Hernández Gamiño y Juana Gómez de Espejo; Según la brillante investigación del señor Steven Francisco Hernández López, publicada en el "Genealogical Journal" de la Society of Hispanic Historical and Ancestral Research, el hijo menor de Domingo el Viejo y Juana Gómez de Espejo fue Tomás Hernández Gamiño El Viejo, casado con Gerónima de Liébana.
Sin embargo, existe una dispensa de matrimonio de Juan Antonio Hernández Gamiño y Lomelín, hijo de Tomás Hernández Gamiño El Mozo y nieto por lo tanto de Tomás El Viejo. La pretensa es Margarita Hernández Gamiño y Casillas, hija de Diego Hernández Gamiño y nieta de Cristóbal Hernández Gamiño, otro de los hijos de Domingo el Viejo y de Juana Gómez de Espejo. En esta dispensa se asegura que el abuelo del pretenso, Tomás El Viejo, es hermano de Diego, el padre de la pretensa, y por lo tanto hijo de Cristóbal y no de Domingo el Viejo.
Esto refuta la información del señor Steven Francisco, y que además está en árboles familiares en Ancestry y Family Search.
¿Existirá algún documento que respalde la hipótesis de que Tomás El Viejo es hijo efectivamente de Domingo el Viejo y no su nieto?
Muchas gracias

Hi everyone! I have a rather specific question. I am having an insight at my third great grandfather (i hope that's right) because I found that he was born out of wedlock in 1806. The registry literally says "legitimate son (I mean) illegitimate son of...", which is not only hilarious but puzzling. Two years later, in 1808, his parents did get married, however, I didn't find any dispensa, AND the registry does say the mother was a maiden. So I wonder what could've happened. Has anyone come across something similar? I'm guessing if they maybe kept it a secret? Also both parents are rather old; the father was 40 and a widow, and the mother was 30, never married. Being a small town in Nochistlán, it seems a bit off. Thanks in advance for your theories!

Good day,

I trust all are well.  I am searching for the parents of Magdalena Velasco,

Wife of Joseph de Aceves Fernández y Becerra

Mother of Nicolás Aceves y Ruiz de Velasco

(1682 • Ayo El Chico, Jalisco)

Online suggestions indicate her parents were Cristóbal Hernández Gamiño and María de los Ángeles Ruiz de Haro y Velasco.

Would you be so kind as to direct me to sources to aid in my research?

Un cordial saludo,

Sandra Garza Aceves

In the book, "Genealogia de Nochistlan Antiguo Reino de la Nueva Galicia en el Siglo XVII Segun Sus Archivos Parroquiales" I am seeing the term "Moco" and "Moca" throughout and wondering if that is a misspelling of "mozo" and "moza"?  For example, here is an entry from page 104:

Maria Yniguez de Estrada, moca espanola doncella, hija de Lorenzo Mexia . . . (dated 1649 in Nochistlan)

In the 1998 edition of Spanish Colonial Terms (by Ophelia Marquez & Lilian Ramos Navarro Wold), they included the term "Mozo" and "Moza" as follows.  That seems to fit within the context here.  

Does anyone know the referenced term?  Thank you!

Hello Nuestro Primos,

I am new to his form and started doing my research about my family out in the area of Huequeilla,El Alto Jalsico and San Antonio De Padua, Zacatecas area. I am really interested now that I received my DNA results. If anyone is also part of this leneage please reach out to me @ Sonia@bellaschicas.co

In researching my geneology I was able to go as far back as 1851 for my great great grandfather. Both of my parents are from a small town in San Antonio de Padua, Zacatecas. It is near Huequeilla El Alto, Jalisco. So it is right at the line of El Alto Jalisco but their town is in Zacatecas. My fathers's last name is Ledesma and my mothers Pacheco

Ledesma :
Paternal Grand Parents: Jose Ledesma born in 1906 and Dolores Najar born in 1909
Great Grandparents : Donaciano Ledesma born in 1887 and Natalia Najar born 1890
2nd Great Grandparents : Benito Ledesma born in 1851 and Alvina Rodrigues born in 1851

Pacheco:
Maternal Grand Parents : Jose Pacheco Born in 1921 and Magdalena Iboa Duarte born in 1923
Great Grandparents : Hilario Pacheco born in 1889 and Maria Dolores Pacheco born in 1889 both in San Diego, Huequeilla El Alto, Jalisco

Tags Members' Genealogy

There is a list of notarial documents from Zacatecas on this website that were translated by Jaime Holcombe. One referred to a "testamento" in Zacatecas for a Margarita Tinoco. Does anyone know how to obtain or view the actual document online instead of the summary of it? Thanks.

   I am getting stymied with Jose Jesus Najar(b1760), father Manuel, mom Maria Gertrudis, married Maria de los Dolores 1780 Jalostotitlan.  I am finding multiple surnames for the mother and wife.  If anyone can help me keep moving back I would appreciate it.

Many, many years ago i found myself very confused when I read that the genealogist Jaime Holcombe had written that Alonso Pérez toriello was the son of of Diego Rodriguez Herrera and Isabel Hernandez Munoz. According to Jaime Holcombe, Alonso had two brothers named Diego Rodriguez and Francisco Rodriguez. I believe that this was one of the first times that I had dealt with a male using a different surname than his father.

I did much research and learned a lot about surnames in the seventeenth and sixteenth centuries. I also learned that Alonso Perez Toriello was considerered a "foreigner" in nuevagalicia. I connected the Rodriguez Herrera family to a Portuguese/Italian family. Though I had initially found Jaime Holcombe's choice of parents confusing, it made a lot more sense once I had researched this line.

After a few years i realized that most genealogists have Alonso Perez Toriello's parents as Andres Perez and Maria Torillo. What is the source for this information? Where can I find the primary sources that make this claim?

Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci

Hello, I am looking at a baptism record for a brother of my 5th great grandfather. I have attached the record and also here is the link: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-GYLD-7?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A6D2Z-7KX6&action=view 

The child's name is Joesph Maria Cleofas Ledesma. The entry is the last one (bottom right page). 

The part I need help with is this... After his name it says "espanol de los ???" I don't know what the next word is and I am wondering if it is signifigant. 

Thank you!

Laura

Hello all,

My uncle is celebrating his 97th birthday, we think.  I found his baptismal record.  There is an abbreviation after "cuatro de Julio" i cannot make out.  I believe it stands for "presente pasado" but that wouldn't make sense.  Does it mean last year (1926) or the present year (1927) Anyone have an idea?  It is the second one from the top on the left page.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-MKPQ-P?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AD5QP-3DZM&action=view

thank you in advance,

AP

Looking for any information on Pedro de Ledezma married to Isabel de Grado prior to 1524

Hola prim@s,

I have found some documents regarding some actions that Maria de las Ruelas took as guardian of her granddaughters - Victoria de las Ruelas, Luisa de Sotomayor, Elena de Sotomayor, Maria de Sotomayor and Ana de Santiago - all daughters of her daughter, Maria de Sotomayor, and of Juan Montañés, both deceased. These documents were all found in the archives of San Luis Potosi, since that is where Maria de las Ruelas lived, as early as July 1649.

If you recall, Juan Montañés had named Maria de las Ruelas as their guardian in his testamento of 29 Sep 1648. As for his male children - Juan, Bernabé and Manuel Montañés - they were initially placed under the guardianship of Montañés’ son-in-law, Juan de Salcedo (married to Petrona de Sotomayor), but in his codicil of 11 Oct 1648, Montañés changed this and named as their guardian Pedro de Salas, resident of Sierra de Pinos and owner of the hacienda called Santa Cruz. And his daughter, Juana Montañés - daughter of his third wife, Maria de Saldaña - was placed under the guardianship of the child’s maternal uncle, Juan de Saldaña.

The first document is dated 11 Jul 1649. In this one, Maria de las Ruelas granted power of attorney to Pedro de Salas, so that he could handle the estate sale. As Juan Montañés had named all of his minor children as his universal heirs, they were to receive an equal share of his estate. To facilitate distribution of the estate, everything would be put on the auction block, and then the proceeds divided among the children. On 4 Aug 1649, she again gives power to Pedro de Salas, it appears to consolidate the inheritance of the nine children. This one gives an inventory of some of Juan Montañés’ goods.

In 1654, Maria de las Ruelas was already in her early 70’s; as an elderly widow, she had little income, yet she was responsible for the upkeep of her 5 wards, and likely, of her spinster daughter, Josepha de las Ruelas. In their home, also lived the various slaves that belonged to the girls, as heirs of their father. Finding themselves in dire straits, it was decided that they’d sell two of the slaves. As the slaves belonged to the girls, Maria de las Ruelas only held them in trust, and she had to request permission of the judicial authorities to sell them, which she did on 7 Aug 1654. In her petition, she explained how they lived in abject poverty, and the only way to sustain themselves, was to sell the two slaves (which is odd, considering that they could’ve rented the slaves out, which I’ve seen others do, but I suppose they needed a “quick fix”). To establish her case, Maria de las Ruelas presented three witnesses: her son-in-law, Lucas de Santa Cruz (age 37), Alferez Bartolome de la Banda (age 50, more or less), and Don Andres de Estrada (age 50, more or less).

Other relevant documents:

In his testamento of 4 Aug 1653, Juan de Salcedo - husband of her granddaughter, Petrona de Sotomayor - recognized that he owed Maria de las Ruelas “100 pesos en reales, Los quales me prestó sobre la parte que me pertenece en las casas de morada en que al presente estoy”.

In 1654, Maria de las Ruelas negotiated the marriage and dowry of her granddaughter, Luisa Montañés de Sotomayor, to Juan Romero Gallardo. On 27 Nov 1654, he registered her carta de dote;in 1660, she negotiated the marriage and dowry of her granddaughter Maria Montañés de Sotomayor to Juan Diaz Melo, who registered reception of her dowry on 11 Sep 1660. Their dowries were relatively modest - under 600 pesos, when most of the dowries I’ve seen were well over 1000 pesos. Each included a slave - which was very common, from what I’ve seen.

Here is the bill of sale for a slave that Joseph de Avila sold on 21 Dec 1649, which belonged to his wife, Josepha de Sotomayor, another daughter of Juan Montañés and Maria de Sotomayor. She likely received the slave as part of her dowry, which would have been arranged by her father, since he was still alive when she married.

As I mentioned in another NR thread, Maria de las Ruelas appears in the 1668 San Luis Potosi padron, as head of household, living with daughters Josepha and Teresa de las Ruelas and some grandchildren. In that same thread, I share links to the folders containing documents regarding the inheritance that she received from her grandson, Antonio Diaz de la Guerta, as well as those regarding her children’s attempt to legally have her declared incompetent of handling her own affairs, in an apparent attempt to gain control of her newly acquired wealth.

Thank you to Mary Lou Montagna, for first bringing to light the existence of most of these documents and the events that they shed light on, and which also shed light on the character of our abuela, Maria de las Ruelas.

Saludos,
Manny Díez Hermosillo

In this document is my 3rd great grandfather Jose Dolores Jimenez. There is two separate pictures because the document was found on two different pages. Any help would be greatly appreciated! 
 

See Image 1

See Image 2

Hola Beatrice:

Gracias por tus lineas.
Es muy grato saber de ti y de tus esfuerzos y logros, te felicito
muchisimo
por todo eso, y eres inpiracion para mi en mis busquedas genealogicas.
Primero que nada, explicame como supiste de mi.

Que lastima que Don Mariano te haya tratado asi, pero ni modo, que
se le va a hacer.
Mencionas que publicastes tus investigaciones en un pequeño libro,
dime si tienes actualmente copias para vender, me interesa muchisimo
comprarte un ejemplar de tus investigaciones, ya que como te dije, somos
de la misma familia de los Gutierrez de Mendoza y me intersa completar lo
mas posible esta rama de mi genealogia, que es una de las mas completas
que tengo.

Te pongo mis datos generales, para que me conozcas un poco mas, y
espero que en tu respuesta tu hagas lo mismo:

Soy Tomás Alejandro Villegas Gómez, naci en esta bella ciudad de
Guadalajara, Jalisco (La Perla de Occidente) el 24 de Abril de 1962, por
lo que hace un mes cumpli 45 años de edad, soy soltero, Ingeniero Químico
egresado de la Universidad de Guadalajara, vivo en Av. Cientificos No. 704,
Col. Miraflores, C.P. 44270, ZP 2, Mi telefono es: (01 33) 3824-3558, soy el
primogenito de mi familia, tengo 6 hermanos, 2 mujeres y 4 hombres, mi
madre cuando naci queria ponerme el nombre de Jorge Alejandro, ya que
naci en el transcurso del dia 23 de Abril, dia de San Jorge y el 24 de Abril
dia de San Alejandro de Frigia (y de San Fidel entre otros), el dia de mi
cumpleaños mientras vivia Don Fidel Velazquez gran lider de la CTM, en
las noticias siempre decian como habia celebrado Don Fidel su Cumpleaños
cada 24 de Abril, pero ya murio, y ahora en las noticias ahora dicen sobre
como celebro su cumpleaños el cantante Alejandro Fernandez, hijo de
Vicente, ya que el tambien nacio el 24 de Abril por eso tambien se llama
Alejandro.
Como te decia, mi madre queria ponerme Jorge Alejandro, pero mi padre
al ser yo su primogenito, le dijo a mi madre que el queria que fuera el
"Junior", que me pusieran como primer nombre el de mi padre Tomas
y mi madre acepto y asi se decidio que yo fuera Tomas Alejandro, que
tambien me da orgullo llevar el nombre de Tomas por mi padre y mi
Bisabuelo, ya que mi bisabuero tambien era Tomas Villegas Flores, mi
padre es Tomas Villegas Gutierrez, nacio en Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco
el 19 de Febrero de 1932, y por eso pertenesco a los Gutierrez de Mendoza,
ya que mi abuelita, la madre de mi padre era Mucia Gutierrez Ramirez, que
nacio en Valle de Guadalupe el 13 de Mayo de 1896, asi es que por via
paterna mis racices son Alteñas, mi madre nacio el 18 de Abril de 1937 en
Ocotlan, Jalisco, y mis raices via materna son del Area de la Cienega o
Rivera de Chapala.
Un dato curioso es el que, mis padres me pusieron Alejandro por el dia
de mi nacimiento, pero uno e los hermanos de mi padre tambien se llama
Alejandro, es Alejandro Villegas Gutierrez que nacio en Valle de Guadalupe
el 28 de Febrero de 1920, y desde hace muchos años vive y tiene toda su
familia en Tijuana, Baja California Norte, a mi tio sus contemporanos en
Valle de Guadalupe le dicen Jandocha, pero años despues, cuando trabajaba
de Peluquero en una Peluqueria cerca de la Central Camionera aqui en
Guadalajara, al parecer su patron se llamaba Chon (Jose Encarnacion) y le
decian Chonito, y asi tambien le decian a los empleados, y de alli resulta
que a mi tio Alejandro desde entonces tambien se le conoce como "Chonito",
y resulta que al enterarse que yo naci y que me habian puesto por nombres
Tomas Alejandro, el penso que habia sido en su honor el "Alejandro" y se
sintio muy halagado y orgulloso, y aunque yo se que me pusieron Alejandro
por el dia en que naci, de todos modos tambien me da orgullo llamarme
como mi Padre y mi Bisabuelo y por mi Tio.
Yo empece a interesarme por la Genealogia, despues de que murio mi
Abuelita Mucia Gutierrez Ramirez, precisamente, ella murio el 09-Sep-1985
aqui en Guadalajara, y poco tiempo despues de que fallecio, abrieron su
"petaquilla" donde guardaba lo mas importante y preciado para ella, y alli
estaban muchas fotografias antiguas que ahun actualmente, muchas de esas
fotos no sabemos quienes son los que aparecen en ellas, al parecer mi
abuelita
gurdaba celosamente esas fotos en su petaquilla y casi nunca las enseñaba
ni decia quienes eran los que en ellas aparecian, asi es que tengo el enigma
de
decifrar quienes son los personajes qe aparecen en esas fotos antiguas de mi

abuelita, y tambien guardaba un cuadernillo, que fue escrito por mi abuelo
Francisco Villegas Navarro, de su puño y letra, donde anoto desde la muerte
de su madre Paula Navarro Franco, su matrimonio con mi Abuelita Mucia y
los Nacimientos de sus hijos, y tambien la muerte de sus 3 de sus hijos
parbulos, y en esas Actas, casi siempre las finalizaba con las palabras:
"Dedico este recuerdo a mis hijos" y lo firmaba, yo al ver este bonito
cuadernillo
con las palabras de mi difunto abuelo, se me hizo muy conmovedor y eso fue
lo que me inspiro a buscar mis ancestros, por la inspiracion de mi Abuelo
Francisco, que en Valle de Guadalupe, en su tiempo fue muy conocido, como
Don Pancho Villegas, fue una vez presidente Municipal de Valle de Guadalupe
por voluntad propia en los años de la Cristiada, no recuerdo si en 1929 o
1930
ya que todos tenian miedo a las tropas federales y a los Rebeldes Cristeros
por igual, ya que casi siempre terminaban los presidentes municipales por
ser
los "Chivos Expiatorios", por esa razon era muy peligroso ser Presidente
Municipal en tiempos de la Cristiada, y por eso ningun coterraneo de mi
padre
queria ser Presidente Municipal, asi es que mi abuelo solamente les
recrimino:
"Bola de miedosos, si nadie quiere ser Presidente Municipal, pues nombrenme
a mi, yo no tengo miedo", asi es que asi fue como mi abuelo fue presidente
municipal de Valle de Guadalupe en tiempo de Cristeros.

Rapidamente te pongo mi Ascendencia por lo Gutierrez de Mendoza para
que veas cmo es nuestro parentesco, lejano, pero parentesco al fin:

1a. Generacion: Yo = Tomás Alejandro Villegas Gómez.
2a. Generacion: Mis Padres: Tomas Villegas Gtz. y Ma. Elena Gomez
Castellanos.
3a. Generacion: Mis Abuelos: Fco. Villegas Navarro y Mucia Gutierrez
Ramirez.
4a. Generacion: Mis Bisabuelos: Gil Gutierrez Flores y Josefa Ramirez
Perez.
5a. Generacion: Mis Tatarabuelos: Jose Guadalupe Gutierrez de Alba y
Maria Dolores Flores
Torres.
6a. Generacion: Mis 4tos. Abuelos: Juan Jose de la Trinidad Gutierrez
Macias
y Dolores de Alba
Gomez.
7a. Generacion: Mis 5tos. Abuelos: Antonio Rafael Gutierrez Delgadillo y
Ma. Feliciana de los Dolores Macias Valadez
Martin del Campo.
8a. Generacion: mis 6tos. Abuelos: Juan de Dios Gutierrez de Mendoza
Galvan de Rojas
y Petronila Delgadillo Ramirez de Mendoza.
9a. Generacion: mis 7mos. Abuelos: Juan Gutierrez Camacho Riquelme y
Juana AntoniaGalvan de Rojas de Rivera.
10aGeneracion: Mis 8vos. Abuelos: Juan Gutierrez de Mendoza
y Ana Camacho Riquelme de Hermosillo.
11aGeneracion: Mis 9nos. Abuelos: Capitan Francisco Gutierrez Rubio y
Francisca Hurtado de Mendoza Olivares.
12aGeneracion: Mis 10mos.Abuelos: Francisco Gutierrez Rubio y Ana
Gonzalez Florida.
13aGeneracion: Mis 11vos. Abuelos: Diego Gonzalez de Hermosillo y Maria
Rubio.

Hasta aqui tengo en esta linea, por lo que ves mi 5to. Abuelo Antonio
Rafael Gutierrez
de Mendoza fue hermano de tu ancestro Isidro Gutierrez y desde mi 6to.
Abuelo Juan
de Dios Gutierrez de Mendoza y su esposa Petronila Delgadillo son los
Ancestros Comunes
que tenemos tu y yo y de alli hacia atras los mismos.

Por parte de tu ancestro me falta mucho, tengo que Isidro Gutierrez de
Mendoza se
caso con Ana Gertrudis Robledo Gonzalez el 12-Feb-1745 en Tepatitlan, y solo
tengo
registrados a 4 hijos: Isidro, Jose Vital, Jose Manuel y Ramon.

Isidro se Caso con Manuela Alvarez Tostado (No tengo datos de sus
nacimientos ni de
su matrimonio), y los hijos que tengo registrados son: Tomás, Jose Pablo
Hilario, Jose
Julian, Jose Santiago, Jose Maria de Jesus y Maria Guadalupe Asencion, y de
los
mencionados Tomas y Jose Maria son tus ancestros, quisiera me compartieras
todos
los datos que tengas sobre nuestra familia los Gutierrez de Mendoza, como te
escribi
arriba, ojala y tengas y me vendas una copia de tu libro publicado.
Mi padre dice que mi abuelita Mucia tenia muchos parientes Gutierrez,
sobre todo
en el Valle, en San Miguel El Alto y en Pegueros, que se hablaba mucho que
eran sus
parientes mas directos los Gutierrez de Pegueros que les decian los
"Sabalones", no
se si sabes tu algo de estos llamados "Sabalones" de Pegueros, ya que yo no
tengo
datos de ellos, tambien me platica mi padre que en su tiempo fue su amigo,
conocido
y cliente de su peluqueria el fallecido padre de los rectores de la U de G.
Raul y Trino
Padilla, el Sr. Raul Padilla Gutierrez, y que platicaban mi padre y el sobre
los Gutierrez
y coincidieron tambien que eran parientes por lo Gutierrez, pero no se como
se da ese
parentesco, no se si tu sabes algo al respecto.

Saludos desde Guadalajara, espero tu respuesta.

Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez.

--
Saludos desde Guadalajara:

Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez

Hello everyone, My name is Cynthia Saucedo & I am a descendant of Juan Zacharias Saucedo Udabe.  I see there are posts on Nuestros Ranchos that are over 10 years old from other descendants of the Saucedo, Udabe, Lopez de la Cerda family line.  If anyone researching this family line is still active on this website I would like to collaborate.  It seems there is a brick wall with the grandparents of Juan Zacharias.  I am researching the Saucedo/Udabe/de la Cerda line from Teocaltiche, Jalisco.  Christoval Saucedo married Feliciana Udabe López de la Cerda around 1711.  There is no marriage record for them.  I have not been able to find any sources with the names of Christoval Saucedo’s parents nor have I been able to find any siblings of Christoval Saucedo. The parents of Feliciana, his wife, are Isidro Udabe & Rosa Manuela Lopez de la Cerda.  There is no marriage record for them however, their children are listed as legitimate children in each of their marriage records.  I have not been able to find death/burial records for Isidro Udabe or Rosa Manuela Lopez de la Cerda. 

The children of Isidro Udabe & Rosa Manuela Lopez de la Cerda are:

Feliciana Udabe López
b. no baptismal record, born between 1690-1698
m. Christoval Saucedo, no marriage record
d. no record, around 1745

Efigenia Udabe
b. baptized August 14, 1714, Nuestra de los Dolores Teocaltiche, Jalisco
m. April 18, 1738, to Francisco Xavier Lares López
d. no record

Joseph Manuel Udabe López
b.  no record
m. September 10, 1730, to Marcel Ruiz de Esparza Delgado
d. April 8, 1771

Diego Toribio Udabe López
b. no reocrd
m. February 16, 1744 to María Theresa Esparza Delgado
d. no record

Domingo Manuel Udabe López
b. no record
m. February 14, 1773 to Maria Micaela Enríquez
d. no record

Getrudis Udabe López
b. no record
m. April 27, 1733 to Juan Cristobal Chavez
d. no record

Juan Victorino Udabe López
b. no record
m. March 3, 1734 to Juana de Jesús Marin de Penaloza
d. no record

Juan de Santa María Udabe López
b. no record
m. April 21, 1736 to María Antonia Carrillo in Aguascalientes

The children of Christobal Saucedo & Feliciana Udabe Lopez are:

Ana Saucedo Udabe
b. March 31, 1711
m. no record
d. no reocrd

Francisco Antonio Saucedo Udabe
b. October 18, 1713
m. no record
d. no record

Ysidro Caietano Saucedo Udabe
b. September 3, 1715 in Cieneguilla, Aguascalientes
m. May 2, 1751 to Antonia Feliciana Yánez Esqueda in Teocaltiche
d. no record

Santiago Saucedo Udabe 
b. around 1719, no record
m. May 13, 1743 to Manuela de la Asención Rovalcava
d. no record, around 1769
*Looks like Santiago & his sister Juana Maria married into the same family (Rovalcava/Robalcaba)

Juan Zacharias Saucedo Udabe
b. June 16, 1721
m. October 23, 1748 to Margarita Ruiz Esqueda
d. no record

Juana Maria Saucedo María Saucedo Udabe
b. March 22, 1726
m. August 28, 1743 to Nicolás Timoteo de Rovalcava
d. September 25, 1774 in Calvillo Aguascalientes
*Looks like Juana Maria & his her brother, Santiago married into the same family (Rovalcava/Robalcaba)

José Antonio Saucedo Udabe
b. no record, about 1730
m. January 28, 1761 to Maria de los Dolores López Lozano in Aguascalientes
d. January 20, 1785 in Aguascalientes

Jose Christobal Saucedo Udabe
b. no record, about 1730
m. November 26, 1753 to Maria Margarita Ornelas
d. no record

Joseph Feliciano Saucedo Udabe
b. July 5, 1733
m. April 23, 1758 to Ana María Francisca Villalpando
d. no record

Francisca Saucedo Udabe
b. no record
m. no record
d. April 1798

 

Greetings,

I am new to the site and recently began researching my grandparents (Pedo Araiza and Elena Rodriguez), both who passed before I was born.  Both migrated to the U.S. and ran a restaurant called the Texcoco Inn (Houston, TX). Found a couple of articles about them from the Sig Byrd archives (writer in Houston) but not much else of their families in Mexico. 

https://nuestrosranchos.org/karaiza

Greetings, 

My name is Shamuwel. I am a descendant of Don Lope Ruiz De Esparza. Nice to meet you all !

Hello Everyone,

I was hoping to find out if anyone has any variation of the aforementioned names in their family history. I have had a challenging time finding information on my mother’s side of the family beyond GG grandfather Ladislao Ansures and a GGG grandfather Ciriaco Ansures. I believe there may be a connection to a sibling Simon, and i think they ultimately resided in Chihuahua. I find the names fascinating, though! Thank you for any information or suggestions!

I'm looking for Alvidres in Jalisco. I know of one from Jalisco in 1710 (Nicolas Alvidres) but no others. The surname, however, abounds in Chihuahua and I'd like to find the connexion between Chihuahua and Jalisco (if any) of this family line. (It's also a curiosity to me since Alvidres appears fairly uncommon.) Gracias.

Hello everyone, I'm new to the site and would like to introduce myself. My name is Daniel Hearn and am beginning my research on my mothers side of the family that have surnames of Ornelas (Ornelaz after coming to the United States), Lupercio, Garcia, Chavez, Chavoyo, Rodriguez, Luna and probably many more to come. My Grandfather moved with his family through Texas to California sometime in the 1930's. I believe it was due to the Cristero war. The most specific location I know of from my uncle is Rancho Mayor near Teocaltiche in the state of Jalisco. Through FamilySearch.org and Ancestry.com Library Edition. Due to the quality of records in naming parents and grandparents I've been able to trace a line but need to clean it up in order to get the dates correct. I have found some interesting points that substantiate family stories. I also am finding out family research can be difficult when faced with information that is difficult to accept or come to terms with. Either way, I hope to be as helpful as possible in this forum to teach and learn new things. Below is a link to my file that includes a copy of my Ahnentafel.

Best regards,
Daniel Hearn
Hola todos, Estoy nuevo en investigación genealógica. Algunos de los apellidos he encuentrada son Ornelas (Ornelaz tras cruzando a EEUU), Lupercio, Garcia, Luna, Rodriguez, y Chovoyo. La familia de mi Abuelo venía a EEUU durante la guerra Cristero en los años 1930's. Al llegar en California mi bisabuela era un traquero y toda su familia vivía en un vagón de cargo por un tiempo corto. La ubicación más espicífica he encuentrado es Rancho Mayor cerca Tepocaltiche en el estado de Jalisco. Otros lugares son, Paso de Sotos (Villa Hidalgo), y Aguascalientes. Según mis investigaciones espero ayudar todos quien interesada. Debajo de este párrafo aporto un link de mi Ahnentafel.

Saludos,
Daniel Hearn

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/GrabadoOrnelaz

   Does anyone have an easy way to show 15+ generation pedigree for relatives that are curious about from where we immigrated, but don't want to spend much time looking at it?  You know the ones, they are not into genealogy, but they are interested in the direct line all the way back to the 1500's.  Some of those pedigree charts get really small.  Is there something on multiple pages that I could lay out on a table?  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Greetings to all,

I am fairly new to genealogical research, but I am trying to establish solid proof a one particular line going back 15 generations. I have been able to establish many of the generations, but I am having some trouble with a few. I have searched this site (and others) and have read many of the forums on this site, which offered great help, but have not been able to locate documentation for some generations. I only included marriage dates for the moment, but can include other information, if needed. I will follow with the generations I am trying to link and find documentation for. I also realize that some names may vary as individuals sometimes shortened or used a variation of their surnames. Below is the lineage starting with myself:

1. Gabriel Brambila
2. Gabriel Brambila married Francisca Mendoza 
3. Gabriel Brambila married Sulema Garza in 1949
4. Gabriel Brambila married Josefina Garcia y Reyna in 1908
5. Jose Felipe Brambila married Florencia Contreras Cuevas in 1880
6. Jose Luis Brambila married Maria Feliciana Fregoso 
7. Jose Casildo Brambila married Maria Rita Rafaela de la Paz Garcia in 1828
8. Jose Bernadino de la Brambila de la Cueva married Maria Josefa Gomez
9. Jose Reyes de la Brambila married Margarita de Jesus de la Cueva de Benavides in 1763 in Tecolotlan, Jalisco
10. Juan de la Cueva de Mora married Rosalia Antonia Benavides Guido in 1741 in Tecolotlan, Jalisco
11. Juan Beltran de la Cueva married Juana de la Mora in 1711 in Tecolotlan, Jalisco
12. Beltran Fernandes married Tomasa (Tomasina) de Velasco de la Cueva in 1684 in Tecolotlan, Jalisco
13. Francisco de Velasco y Temiño married Geronima de la Cueva; they lived in Tecolotlan, Jalisco
14. Alonso de Velasco y Zuniga married Ana Flores de la Torre y Temiño; they lived in Juchipila, Zacatecas 
15. Diego Flores de la Torre married Angela Temiño de Velasco 
16. Pedro Pacho Rodriguez married Maria Ana Temiño de Velasco Alcocer y Bañuelos

As I mentioned above, I have been able to make a connection, with documentation, for many of the above generations (1 - 10). I am having trouble showing, with documentation (birth/baptism/marriage records), the connection for the following generations (11 - 14): 

11. Juan Beltran de la Cueva was the son Beltran Fernandes and Tomasina de Velasco de la Cueva

12. Tomasina de Velasco de la Cueva was the daughter of Francisco de Velasco y Temiño and Geronima de la Cueva

13. Francisco de Velasco y Temiño was the son of Alonso de Velasco y Zuniga and Ana Flores de la Torre y Temiño

14. Ana Flores de la Torre y Temiño was the daughter of Diego Flores de la Torre and Angela Temiño de Velasco

If anyone can assist it would greatly appreciated. 

Thank you in advance for the help,

Gabe Brambila