Hello All,

It's been a while since I last posted in this forum. For those who don't know me, I run a website called valladoliddispensas.com, which is similar to guadalajaradispensas.com. Its purpose is to index all of the matrimonial dispensation records (and other types of genealogical information) from the "Antiguo Obispado de Michoacán/Casa de Morelos" microfilm archive, which is available through familysearch.org. The "Antiguo Obispado de Michoacán" covered the modern-day states of Michoacán, San Luis Potosí, Guanajuato, and Colima, as well as parts of Jalisco and Guerrero.

I wanted to share a few quick updates on the features I've added to the site:

First, I've updated all of the indexes so that you can now click on an entry's page-number link and be taken directly to that page in the corresponding FamilySearch microfilm. This should (hopefully) speed up your research.

Second, I've added a feature that organizes all of the index entries by town. If you'd like to see every entry for, say, Tamazula, Jalisco, you can open the town link for Tamazula and find all of the entries for that town, listed in chronological order. You can access this feature here: https://www.valladoliddispensas.com/p/indices-por-pueblo-del-antiguo-ob…

Finally, I've updated the site's theme to better match the content we're presenting and, hopefully, make it easier to navigate.

I hope you find these updates useful. If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out through our "Contact Us!" link on the main page.

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Hola a todos:

Ha pasado un buen tiempo desde mi última publicación en este foro. Para quienes no me conocen, administro un sitio web llamado valladoliddispensas.com, que es parecido al de guadalajaradispensas.com. Su propósito es indexar toda la información de dispensas matrimoniales (y otros tipos de información genealógica) del archivo de microfilmes del "Antiguo Obispado de Michoacán/Casa de Morelos", disponible a través de familysearch.org. El "Antiguo Obispado de Michoacán" abarcaba los estados actuales de Michoacán, San Luis Potosí, Guanajuato y Colima, así como partes de Jalisco y Guerrero.

Quería compartir algunas novedades sobre las funciones que he agregado al sitio:

Primero, actualicé todos los índices para que ahora puedan hacer clic en el enlace del número de página de una entrada y este los lleva directamente a esa página en el microfilme correspondiente de FamilySearch. Espero que les ayude a agilizar sus investigaciones.

Segundo, agregué una función que organiza todas las entradas de los índices por pueblo. Si quieren ver todas las entradas de, por ejemplo, Tamazula, Jalisco, pueden abrir el enlace del pueblo de Tamazula y encontrarán todas las entradas de ese lugar, en orden cronológico. Pueden acceder a esta función aquí: https://www.valladoliddispensas.com/p/indices-por-pueblo-del-antiguo-ob…

Por último, actualicé el tema (diseño) del sitio para que refleje mejor el contenido que presentamos y, con suerte, sea más fácil de navegar.

Espero que estas novedades les resulten útiles. Si tienen alguna pregunta, no duden en escribirme a través de nuestro enlace "Contact Us!" en la página principal.

Daniel Serna Valencia

We discovered my dad has some Basque DNA through a DNA test.  I was able to research his family line to Martin Navarro de Gabay who was from Pamplona, Navarre, Spain, which I believe is Basque country. I know he married Petronilla de Moctezuma, but not much else.  Why did he travel to New Spain? What did he do in Mexico once he settled there. Where did he settle? How did he hook up with Petronilla?  I know we may never know the answers to all these questions, but if anyone has any information about him, I would be most interested.  Thank you.

Victoria Hernandez Lopez

Looking for information about María Crestina Macías Valadés (Española), usually spelled Masias Balades, AKA Ximénes AKA Péres.

She was probably born in Aguascalientes about, or before, 1733 (guess based upon her children's dates of birth). She married José Santiago Rodríguez sometime before 1748.

She was mostly referred to as "Crestina Macias" but her surname was given in various records as "Masias Balades," "Peres" and "Ximénes." 

I cannot find a baptism record for her, so I've been looking through the Macías Valadés family to find marriages with anyone with the surnames Jiménez or Pérez without much luck. 

Any suggestions or info would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Travis

Looking for information about José Santiago Rodríguez and his parents, Juan Rodríguez and María Josepha de la Cruz. 

José Santiago Rodríguez (Español) born about 1731 (a guess based upon his children's births). According to his burial record (7 Dec 1769), he was born in Zacatecas and is the son of Juan Rodríguez and María Josepha de la Cruz. 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6SJ9-JKC

i can only find him in records from the 1750s onwards. He is recorded as living in San Nicolas, Calvillo, Aguascalientes (recorded in Tabasco, Zacatecas at first) and then living in Barranca, Calvillo. 

Was he born in San Nicolas Hacienda, Calvillo, which was considered Zacatecas at the time? 

I cannot find much on Calvillo prior to the 1740s. 

One clue: some later descendants used the surname Rodríguez de Frías, but neither Santiago, nor his sons, used that surname. They are recorded as simply "Rodríguez."

Any suggestions are welcome.

Thank you

Travis

Dropbox Access

After an absence of several years, I am slowly trying to return to genealogy.  (Emphasis on slowly.)  In the meantime I would like to share some research by giving you access to my Dropbox account.  Some of these files will be familiar (the Jaime Holcombe letters that Ophelia Marquez and I compiled in the 1990s;  the San Luis Potosi testament reports; my research of Juan Montanez, Maria de las Ruelas, Galvan de Rojas and others; the Christmas letters to my relatives where I "gifted" ancestors; etc.). There are also a few Family Group Sheets prepared pre-internet. It's a hodgepodge of data that may help someone.  Just click on the link below.

I ask one favor of you.  When you find an error (or two), please let me know.  Thanks,

Mary Lou Montagna

 https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/3ca9n3uuvrfvre3o5nh77/AFyduE5sdqyl-fruqx…

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GGZ1-9F8H?view=index&c…

Film number #004239424 

a Baptism for My possible Serna of Aguascalientes ancestor .. in the Iglesia San Pablo, Mitla, Oaxaca

Entry  begining on 2nd line 

2nd veinte y Sinco dia de Dec. de mil Setecientos y Setenta 

3rd y dos  Bautize y puse los santo Oleos y Chris-

4th  ma a Manuela hija Lexitima de Fran Co Serna 

Next Page  ( unknown  )  y Maria  F ??? ( unknown )  P. P. Juan Lopes y Josepha de ( ?????? )  

Any help is appreciated. 

Greetings, 

I began my genealogy journey several years back researching my maternal grandfather's line.  My grandfather's mother (my great-grandmother) is originally from Ciudad Guzman (dob 1874) and had the maiden name of "Aguallo." A dear uncle of mine (now departed) would tell me stories about her maiden name and how it was linked to a small town (Nochistlan).  

During the COVID shutdown I followed the "aguallo" line back to the mid 1750's in Ciudad Guzman (Zapotlan Grande).  I found records (baptisms, marriage and death) on Family Search belonging to the "aguallo" line.  The oldest direct relative I found in Ciudad Guzman was Jose Vizente Ferrer de Aguayo (married in 1779), originally from Nochistlan, per his IM (a kind soul/wikitree moderator found the unindexed IM).  Unfortunately, I hit a wall at the time and could not find any additional documents for Jose Vizente Ferrer (ie a baptism record).  His marriage registry and IM identify one Antonio Mergil/Margil de Aguayo as his father (and Maria Tereza Yanez as his mother) but that's where the confusion remains (wikitree lists my Antonio Margil with another as an "unmerged match").  From Jose Vizente Ferrer's IM, specifically a testigo (Clemente de Aguayo, likely a uncle/cousin), I was able to indirectly zero-in on the Nochistlan family cluster but, again, no direct connection.  Frustrated at the time, I set this line aside until very recently.  

I used AI to review several Family Search derived docs to confirm my findings and possibly shed some light on my "wall."  The AI helped in nominal ways but often it seemed to hallucinate.  It did, however, make one interesting suggestion: it noted that given an age/time gap (the existing Antonio Margil de Aguayo on wikitree appears to have been born in 1710 and married in 1733), it was possible that the this represented a "generational collapse," meaning that the existing Antonio Margil de Aguayo may possibly have been an older relative with the same name married to a woman with a similar name (both Maria, possibly from the same "Yanez" family).  The AI further suggested that Antonio Margil, and father of Vizente, was likely an unidentified (on wikitree) brother of Clemente (both sons of Joseph de Aguayo and Manuela de Aguilar), all from Nochistlan, vice the listed brother of Joseph de Aguayo.  In other words, a son of Joseph sharing the same name as his uncle.  I then began searching the unindexed IMs on Family Search from Nochistlan circa 1750-55 (assuming that Jose Vizente Ferrer was born circa 1755).  While searching, I came across a 1751 Nochistlan IM for one Antonio de Aguayo (son of Joseph de Aguayo and Manuela de Aguilar) married to Maria "Camacho Hermocillo" (not Yanez).  Although unlikely to be my Antonio Margil, the IM does seem to identify a previously unidentified son of Joseph (brother of Clemente).  Needless to say, I'm back at my "wall," which is why I'm here, in the off chance someone has done some work on this line that can help me move past my wall.  Any help would be appreciated.

JL

p.s. I believe the "kind soul" from wikitree is a member of this distinguished group.

Does anyone in the group have any ancestors that were involved in Spain's role of assisting during the American Revolution?

As many of us have come to realize, the traditional genealogy connecting Lázaro Martín del Campo to Revilla del Campo is likely incorrect. 

Emerging evidence suggests that Bartolomé Martín del Campo and Lázaro Martín del Campo are two distinct individuals with no proven relation. While it was previously claimed that Lázaro was the same Bartolomé baptized in Revilla del Campo in 1605, the chronology is inconsistent. 

As Alfonso Martín del Campo Loza noted in his book "Memoria Documental y Gráfica de mi Apellido Martin del Campo", Lázaro was already established in Teocaltiche by 1618 and was a widower of Isabel Sánchez de Lara by 1623. A child baptized in 1605 could not have been a widower in 1623 with an established presence in Nueva Galicia by 1618. 

Recent findings point toward Herencia as the true origin: 

1) 1608 Record: I previously shared a 1608 record from Herencia showing a Lázaro Martín del Campo and his wife, María Díaz, acting as godparents: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6S69-D5H?view=fullText…;

2) The "Miguel Díaz" Connection: Jorge Barba identified that Miguel, a son of Lázaro Martín del Campo and María López de la Cruz, was registered as "Miguel Díaz" in the 1650 Jalostotitlán Census (Padrón). 

3) The Marriage Link: Jorge Barba subsequently located a marriage record dated February 8, 1587, in Herencia for the Lázaro Martín del Campo I found (son of Francisco Martín del Campo and Teresa Rodríguez) and María Alonso (Díaz). It is of utmost importance to mention that María’s parents were Miguel Díaz Avilés and Mari Díaz. 

While we cannot yet definitively prove the link, the timeline is highly compelling. 

If the Lázaro from Nueva Galicia was born circa 1590 to the couple in Herencia, he would have been 28 in Teocaltiche (1618) and a widower at 33 (1623). 

Furthermore, the naming of his son Miguel Díaz follows the tradition of naming children after their ancestors, in this case Miguel Díaz, father of María Alonso (also known as María Díaz). 

The proposed line is this one: 

1. Francisco Martín del Campo = Teresa Rodríguez 

1.1. Lázaro Martín del Campo = María Díaz/María Alonso, daughter of Miguel Díaz Avilés and Mari Díaz. 

1.1.1. Lázaro Martín del Campo = Isabel Sánchez de Lara = María López de la Cruz. 

Interestingly, Mariano González-Leal mentioned the possibility of the Herencia lineage as a footnote in Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia but did not pursue it. This is a testament to his intuition and skills as one of the greatest genealogists; even without today’s digital tools, he sensed a connection that we are only now able to substantiate. 

For those interested in a deeper dive, Jorge Barba has detailed these findings in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26PSzZwXEMM&t=6s 

Best regards, 

Erik Andrés Reynoso y Márquez