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Alonso Cornejo

Hello everyone,

I was organizing and going over some documents I have. One of these I came across had some information on Alonso Cornejo, which is titled Familia Paterna y Materna de Sor Juana: hallazgos documentales, by Guillermo Scmidhuber of the University of Guadalajara. He delves into the Cornejo family, specifically Alonso Cornejo. 

A Cristóbal Joseph Gomez Cornejo, on 10 June 1758 solicited documents of relation in reference to the Cornejo Ramirez family. It references a document from the 18th of November, 1676 that was prepared for the family of Joseph Cornejo Ramirez. The author notes a petition which deals with the genealogy of the Cornejo family. In said document, a witness testified  that Capt. Fernando Gordíbar Osorio was the paternal grandfather of said Joseph Cornejo, for which this information is provided, and he (Gordíbar Osorio) was a descendent of the first conquistadores. On p.66 he states, “Existe un documento de ‘Filiación’ referente a los Cornejo Ramírez que comprende 85 folios probatorios de ser cristianos viejos y de su limpieza de sangre; fue solicitado por Christóbal Joseph Gómez Cornejo el 10 de junio de 1758, en Jalostotitlán, Nueva Galicia.” It adds, “la petición fue concedida y se preparó la copia notarial de varios documentos de la familia de Joseph Cornejo Ramírez, primo de Juana Inés, que establecían la genealogía de sus progenitores para lograr contraer matrimonio. El documento copiado lleva la fecha de 20 de noviembre de 1676, y varios testigos afirman que don Diego Ramírez y doña Inés de Brenes vivieron en Sanlúcar de Barrameda, en el pozo de Marquillos (de quienes partió la estirpe mexicana, fueron los bisabuelos de Juana Inés y sus primos).  Con fecha del 18 de noviembre de 1676 acude el y pobladores de este Reino de Nueva España, que y cargos de Justica y Guerra, que ejercieron con primer testigo: Juan Caballero, maestro de cirugía, y testifica que “el Capitán Fernando Gordíbar Osorio, abuelo paterno del susodicho Joseph Cornejo, por quien se hace esta información, fue hijo y descendiente de los primeros conquistadores pasaron a él y sirvieron a su Majestad a su costa y mención en la conquista de este Reino con sus armas y caballos, por lo que fueron ocupados por lo señores excelentísimos Virreyes de ella, en puestos toda rectitud y puntualidad” (Folio 10).”

The publication also notes baptisms of some Alonso Cornejo’s children. On p.74 it discusses the baptism of a daughter named Micaela with woman named Francisca Rodriguez (not his known wife Juana Inés Ramirez de Santillana). The author thinks it could be a second wife. This was recorded on 23 September 1652. I was previously unaware of a Francisca Rodriguez and daughter Micaela. I found the document on Family Tree and attached it to Alonso Cornejo.
 
I have added the above mentioned docs in my files. There is so much more to discover about Alonso. I hope to also find more information on Fernando Gordíbar Osorio as well, who I have not been able to find much on.

https://nuestrosranchos.org/ERojano27

Thank you,

Edward


 

Translation in (parenthesis) Requested

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939D-6898-7R?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AD15P-MK2M&action=view&lang=en&groupId=M9SH-MYZ 

is for a marriage of Gabriela Alvarez and her parents are listed as Jose Maria Alvarez (in the parenthesis I need help understanding, something like "quien ante mi presto el consentimierrto necesario) and Gertrudis Orozco. . . .

My Spanish is not sufficient to understand what the priest is saying within the parenthesis so any help understanding what is being said here would be very much appreciated.

thanks,

Joseph

 

 

Nieto Corona

Dear all, 

While searching for the well-knowned couple Pedro Nieto and Josefa Corona from Pinos, I noticed that the archives of Bizkaia "Archivo Histórico Foral de Bizkaia" mentioned in their website having the following document : "Probanza de hidalguía y limpieza de sangre de Josefa Corona, hija de Cosme López y Catalina Corona, realizada en el año 1646 que incluye:
Privilegio Real dado por el Rey Carlos I a favor de Manuel Monje concediendo un escudo de armas por las labores desarrolladas en la conquista y pacificación de la ciudad de Méjico y de Nueva España.

In the same link (https://apps.bizkaia.eus/ARIT/ARITSVisualizarFichaDocumento?seccion=8&e…), you can see that another document is mentioning "Josefa Corona, esposa de Pedro Nieto". 

The time and location matches with our Josefa Corona and I wondered if anyone had ever came accross this lead ? 

Kind regards, 

Tristan

Andrés de López y Isabel de Medina, casados antes de 1615 (y sobre la familia Ahumada de Lagos)

Hello!

I'm hoping someone here is familiar with the López de Lara, Ahumada/Aumada and Medina families of Lagos de Moreno circa 1570-1665 and/or can point me in the right direction for answers to the below questions.

I found the following baptism in parish register of Santa María de los Lagos:

Andrés, bt. 14 Oct 1615 in Lagos, son of Andrés de López and Isabel de Medina

Is Isabel de Medina (above) is the same person as doña Isabel de Medina (below)?

1. Antonio de Lepe (López?), son of doña Isabel de Medina
  m. doña Josepha de Ahumada/Aumada
    1.1 Francisco, bt. 14 Nov 1644 La Asunción, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico (madrina: Da Ysabel de Medina)
    1.2 María, bt. 14 Aug 1648 La Asunción, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico (madrina: "Doña Isabel de Medina Viuda, y madre de el dicho Antonio de Lepe")
    1.3 Francisca de Aumada, vecina de León (1673), y en Lagos (1676) en la casa de Antonia de Villegas (madre de Juan de Santoyo)
        m. 23 Jan 1673 in Lagos to Juan de Santoyo, bt. 2 Aug 1643 in Lagos.

  • This seems to be the only Ahumada/Aumada family residing in Lagos at this time (1640s). Are they connected to the Ahumada family of Guadalajara?
  • Is Andrés de Lópes (in the baptismal record above) connected to the family of Andrés de López de Lara (c1600-bef. 1650) of Lagos de Moreno? They cannot be the same man, but there seems to be a male named "Andres" in every generation of the López de Lara family of Lagos and León. Maybe related?
  • Who is Isabel de Medina?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-KW8C-F

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939F-WZ9F-VZ

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939F-WZ9V-2D

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-G5RT-B

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KRRM

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-G5RZ-7

Don Leon Casillas de San Juan de la montana, Nigromante Jalisco. La loma tendida

Quiro encontrar información de mi abuelito en lado de mi padre. Arnulfo Chavez Godinez, mi abuelito era regalado a un señor soltero que era conocido como Leon Casillas en la sierra cerca los otates, la troja, y la Sierra.

 Cuenta la historia que una pareja tenía dos hijos pequeños. El mayor murió joven (de 2 a 6 años). Entonces se llevaron al niño, mi abuelo "Arnulfo Chávez Godínez", y recorrieron los ranchos intentando dar al menor en adopción.

Un hombre soltero conocido como "Don León" o León Casillas adoptó a Arnulfo cuando tenía entre 3 días y 3 años.

Supuestamente, Don León era un hombre con una nariz grande y cicatrices de acné en el rostro.

Me gustaría encontrar más información en la familia que regaló a mi abuelito o en el señor que lo crió como su propio niño. 


 

Parents of Joseph Padilla and María Eusebia López de Lara?

I'm looking for the parents of Joseph Padilla and his wife María Eusebia Lópes de Lara. They probably married before June of 1734 in either Jalisco or Guanajuato.

Joseph Padilla, noted as born in Cuarenta, Jalisco (date unknown) and died before 25 Jun 1746. He is the first husband of María Eusebia Lópes de Lara (born c1715 probably in León, Guanajuato). 

I believe, but cannot yet prove, María Eusebia Lópes de Lara is the daughter of Donato López de Lara (b. c1685 & buried 30 Oct 1751 in León, Guanajuato) and Agueda Juliana de Soto (Sotomayor y Aguilar?).

  1. María Eusebia Lópes de Lara (c1715 León?)

    1st marriage: bef. June 1734? Joseph Padilla b. Cuarenta, Jalisco d. bef. 25 Jun 1746
            1.1 Aguedas Juliana Padilla b. 1735 León, Guanajuato
                m. 5 Mar 1753 don Juan Antonío Muñoz de Xeres
            1.2 Joseph Marcelino Antonio Padilla b. c1739 Cuarenta, Jalisco
                m. 13 Aug 1757 doña María Antonía Muñoz de Xeres
                m. 10 May 1769 Antonía Victoria de Torres (India)
            1.3 Manuel Ciriaco Padilla b. 19 Jun 1739 Lagos bt. 28 Jun 1739 Lagos (Padrinos: Phelipe Lópes de Lara y Maria Theresa de Aranda)
                m. María Leonarda de Espinosa
            1.4 Marcos de Jesus Padilla b. 25 Apr 1741 Las Nazas, Jalisco
                m. 5 Jul 1767 Clara Silveria de Aranda
            1.5 María Josepha Padilla b. 31 Mar 1743 Lagos

    2nd marriage: 25 Jun 1746 don Joseph Muñoz de Xeres (son of Juan Muñoz de Xeres y Gómez and Ysabel de Aranda y Vanegas)
            1.6 José Segundo Muñoz de Xeres b. c1754
            1.7 Ana Petronila Muñoz de Xeres b. c1756
            1.8 Inéz Serapia Muñoz de Xeres b. c1758
            1.9 María Muñoz de Xeres b. c1759
            1.10 María de las Nieves Muñoz de Xeres b. c1760

Who were Simón Báez and María de la Cerda?

Does anyone have a solid theory on the identity of Simón Báez, who married María de la Cerda [alias María de Balencuela?] probably sometime before Sep 1652?

Conjectured and proven children:

Nicolasa Báez de la Cerda b. c1653 probably in San Luis Potosí
Maria Báez b. 1653 in San Luis Potosí [may be the same person as sister Nicolasa Báez de la Cerda]
Simon Báez de la Cerda b. c1656 probably in Aguascalientes
Ygnacio Báez de la Cerna b. c1658 probably in Aguascalientes
Blasa Báez b. c1658? probably in Aguascalientes
Antonio Báez Lopes b. before 1659 probably in Aguascalientes (not proven)
Sebastiana Báez de la Cerda b 1659 in Aguascalientes

Simón Báez died in Aguascalientes and was buried 14 Dec 1659.

I lean toward one of two possibilities:

  1. Simón Báez is the same person as the converso merchant Simón Báez de Sevilla, who was sentenced by the Inquisition to reconciliation in the 1649 auto-da-fé in Mexico City.
  2. Simón Báez is the same person as Simón Enriques Báez of San Luis Potosí, nephew of the converso merchant Simón Báez de Sevilla

Household of María de la Cerda in the 1676 Padron de Santa María de los Lagos:

Rancho deel Potrerillo [21.268897, -101.862178]
Maria de la Serda Española, viuda ++ [María de la Cerda, widow of Simón Báez]
Anto de la Serda Español, viudo ++ [unproven son] 
Blasa de la Serda, Española, soltera ++ [daughter]
Ygnacio Baes, Español, soltero ++ [son]
Juan de Mendosa, Español, casado ++  Maria Ramos ++ [not sure]
Melchora de los Reyes ++ [mother of María de la Cerda and Nicolás de la Cerda? See below]
Ana Rodrigues, soltera ++
Sebastiana Ruiz ++
Domingo de Bonilla, soltero ++
Juan, Indio de 10 años +
Sebastian, Indio de 11 años +

Rancho de Castelongo [21.302221, -101.848539]
Francisco de Ysassi, Espanol, casado ++  Nicolaza Baes ++ [morisco son-in-law and daughter of María de la Cerda and Simón Báez]
Diego Hernandes, Indio, casado ++  Angelina Delacruz, India 
Theriza Rodrigues, India, soltera ++
Feliphe de la Cruz, Indio, soltero ++
Juan, Indio de 10 años +
Nicolas Hernandes, Indio de 10 años +

Is María de la Cerda a sister, or close relative, of Nicolás de la Cerda (c1630-1693), who married María de Bielma on 30 Sep 1652?

  1. Nicolás's marriage record notes that his parents, Luis de la Serda and Melchora de los Reyes, are from San Gerónimo (Moctezuma in San Luis Potosí), not far from Mexquitic. In the 1653 baptismal record of her daughter María, María de Balencuela [alias de la Cerda?] is described as from "Mexquiteque."
  2. In the 1676 Padron de Santa María de los Lagos, a Melchora de los Reyes is listed in the household of María de la Cerda. María de la Cerda would be between 40 and 50 years of age at that time so her mother could easily still be living.

Simón Báez and María de la Cerda are ancestors many times over. The family is descended from three of their children in different lines. DNA test results indicate the family has Ashkenazi and possible Sephardic ancestry. Other than perhaps Toribio Hernández de Arellano (ancestor x 2) and Bartolomé de Mesquita (also an ancestor many times over), there are no other likely converso ancestors to be found.

If anyone has theories or information about Simón Báez and María de la Cerda, I would like to hear from you.

Thank you,

Travis

Gerónima de Ornelas in the 1669 Padron de Santa Maria de los Lagos

Hello everyone!

Does anyone know who Gerónima de Ornelas (widow) is?

Gerónima is noted in the household of Antonia de Villegas in the 1669 Padron of Lagos:

Casa de Antonia de Villegas mestissa [alias Mendoza b. before 1629, widow of Juan de Santoyo alias Pérez]
Geronima de Ornelas Viuda ++ [Unknown]
Antonio de Santoyo casado con ++ [son, alias Mendoza]
Melchora Basques mestissa ++ [daughter-in-law, alias de los Reyes]
Angelina Peres mestissa soltera ++ [daughter]
Ysidro de Santoyo + [grandson?]
Juan de Santoyo + [grandson]

I have not identified the location of this home, but it is somewhere south of Lagos; probably close to Los Jacales.

I cannot find any information about Gerónima de Ornelas, but Antonia de Villegas is an ancestor thrice over and two women with whom I believe she may be closely related are both also ancestors (María de Villegas alias de Rodas alias González b. c1630 who married Juan de Saavedra; and María de González alias de los Reyes b. c1610 who married Domingo de Espinosa alias Vasquez). So Gerónima's identity may be an important clue to our ancestry.

The Mendoza surname is repeatedly used by Antonia and her descendants, male and female, for successive generations leading me to believe there was some importance attached to it for them. Maybe Antonia de Villegas alias Mendoza is related to, or descended from, Álvaro de Ornelas and Isabel de Mendoza?

Any information or thoughts on this are welcome.

Thank you,

Travis

pdf del libro Andariegos y pobladores: Nueva España y Nueva Galicia

I was contacted about a the below inactive .pdf Is there someone in the group that can supply me or this person with the correct file?

Buenos días, perdón que lo moleste.

Ví en la página de Nuestros Ranchos un enlace al pdf del libro Andariegos y pobladores: Nueva España y Nueva Galicia pero el enlace ya no sirve.

Usted tendrá el PDF?

Muchas gracias, le envío un saludo cordial.

thanks,

joseph

MATEO GONZÁLEZ DE RUBALCAVA(S)

There were four men, all named Mateo Gonzalez de Rubalcava, who were born around 1625-1630, and who lived in the Teocaltiche/ Mexticacan/ Nochistlan area. I have been sorting through various documents, trying to get a hold on who these 4 persons were, and whether or not they might be the same person or persons, and I’ve developed a couple of theories which I thought I’d share here. First, a breakdown on who these men were:

Mateo Gonzalez de Rubalcava #1

The first Mateo Gonzalez de Rubalcava married Catalina Cortes de Sandoval on 21 Jun 1651, in Nochistlan; they were velados the following 1 Jun 1652. According to the dispensation of Joseph de Luna and Maria de San Juan Jimenez, Mateo #1 was the son of Antonio de Rubalcava (#1), who was the brother of Lorenzo de Rubalcava, who was the father of Agueda de Rubalcava, great-grandmother of the bride: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-D28K-Z?i=481&wc=3JW5-V…

From other records, we know that Antonio #1 and Lorenzo de Rubalcava were sons of Mateo de Rubalcava cc Geronima Morales.

This relationship is confirmed by the IM of Eugenio de Rubalcava and Maria Dolores de Lizarde, which again establishes Mateo #1 as the son of Antonio de Rubalcava #1, who was brother of Lorenzo de Rubalcava, who was father of Blas de Rubalcava: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-TT37-2?i=25&wc=3P92-3T…

Mateo #1 died some time before 7 Jul 1670, when his daughter, Melchora de Rubalcava, married. Also, it should be noted that his mother is never mentioned, so her identity remains unknown.

Mateo Gonzalez de Rubalcava #2

The second Mateo Gonzalez de Rubalcava married Cecilia Vasquez de Islas on 4 Feb 1658 in Nochistlán; he died 21 Jun 1710, in Nochistlan. His origins remain uncertain; the only clue I’ve seen is the dispensation of their son, Joseph Gonzalez de Rubalcava, for his marriage to Magdalena Carrillo, hija natural of Geronimo Carrillo and Magdalena Mendoza. According to this dispensa, Mateo #2 and Geronimo Carrillo were 1st-cousins, though the details of their relationship are not explained: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-6K99-JY?cc=1874591&wc=…

Geronimo Carrillo might be the same who was married to Maria Lozano Sandoval, and who died and was buried on 8 Mar 1693 in Nochistlan. Likewise, he might be the same Geronimo, son of Diego Carrillo and Maria Lopez, who was confirmed 29 Dec 1666 in Teocaltiche: (left) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-QT5Y-7?i=46&wc=SS5B-7M… and who was living in their household in the 1681 Teocaltiche padron: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89K2-Y8HH?i=475&cat=23…

If this is the case, then Geronimo’s relationship to Mateo #2 could be through his mother, Maria Lopez de Rubalcava, who was the daughter of Mateo de Rubalcava cc Geronima Morales; since Mateo #2 was his 1st-cousin, then he would also be their grandson. The relationship would look like this:

Tronco: Mateo de Rubalcava cc Geronima Morales
Maria Lopez-1- ?
Geronimo Carrillo-2-Mateo de Rubalcava #2
Magdalena Carrillo-3-Joseph de Rubalcava

Note: it is clear that Mateo #1 and Mateo #2 are NOT the same person, since they were married to different women and having children at the same time, and also, the former died at least 40 years before the latter.

Mateo Gonzalez de Rubalcava #3

The 3rd Mateo Gonzalez de Rubalcava was the son of the above-mentioned Lorenzo de Rubalcava and Catalina Gonzalez, confirmed on 16 May 1634 in Teocaltiche: (right) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-QT5Y-9?cc=1874591&wc=3…

Mateo #3 had a natural daughter named Catalina Gonzalez, who married Juan Gonzalez Hidalgo on 31 Aug 1667, in Teocaltiche; that she was his daughter is explained in the dispensation of Bernardo Lopez de Nava and Quiteria Jimenez, which claims that, “Mateo Gonz de Rubalcava and Agueda Gonz de Rubalcava were siblings; from Mateo came Catarina Gonzales por copula iliicita, from whom came Nicolasa Gonzalez Hidalgo, mother of the groom; from Agueda came Catharina Arellanos, and from this one, Antonio Jimenez father of the bride”: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-6K9Y-JN?i=253&wc=12512…

From other records, we know that Agueda de Rubalcava aka Agueda Lopez was the daughter of Lorenzo de Rubalcava cc Catalina Gonzalez, supporting that Mateo #3 was the same confirmed in 1634. Nothing else is known about him.

Mateo Gonzalez de Rubalcava #4