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Need help reading this 1792 marriage record

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This is difficult for me to read, especially the names. Can anyone help me? Thank you.

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Published by rosa9972 – Mon, 2016-04-18 19:00 | Permalink

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Names--

Groom: Juan Miguel de Luna y Lopez
his parents: Callettano Lopez & Ana Rosalia

Bride: Ana Luis Dias
her parents: Nicolas & Ana Bernarda Aleman

Padrinos: Jose Manuel & Maria Bictoriana
Testigos: Miguel de Herrera & Callettano Juan

I hope this helps.

Rosalinda

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Yes thank you! This does help me. I do have some follow-up questions now.

I had not been able to read "Rosalia". Since the grooms name is Juan Miguel de Luna y Lopez, does that mean that his mother's last name is Luna?

Also, is the bride's father's last name Dias?

Again, Rosalinda, thank you so much for your help.

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Bernarda Aleman I found a couple of weeks ago I've been trying to find spouses for 3 of my Alemans in the late 1600. Aleman is really Sifuentes de Aleman so sometimes the name Sifuentes will appear on one of the children. They are from San Luis Potosi. record ID above in subject line for ana luisa dias and juan miguel de luna y lopez. I have Luna in the 1600 but have not found another in my line yet. Good luck

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Ana Luisa Dias L2T7-NH8 record ID for www.Familysearch.org​
when you are signed in and you choose Find from the ribbon right under the Familysearch.logo. It will go to default of searching for name but to the side of it is search by ID. Click on that and put in the above number.

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1) Create an account on https://familysearch.org/

2) Log in

3) Hover over Family Tree at the top left

4) go down to Person and select

5) click on the Down Arrow next to "person" and an ID box will be available for you to input the record ID

6) Click on the arrow

Joseph

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Joseph Puentes
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> sarod77, I'm not familiar with how to search by record ID. As a matter
> of fact, I don't even see a record ID on the records I'm looking at.
> Thanks for your help!
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Where do I get a record ID? Where does it appear?

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

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>
> 6) Click on the arrow
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Go to FamilySearch.org, log in, Go to Family tree, do a search for anyone. If you get some results then their ID should be right under their name for example:

Go to https://familysearch.org/
Then click on Family Tree
Then click on find
Then put in say, Antonio Gonzalez the result I got was:

Antonio Gonzalez
LD25-S6J <---- this is the Record ID

NOTE: I'm not exactly sure but the Record ID's seem to be directly related to individuals that are connected to Family Tree. So say for example you do a general search outside of family tree then it is very possible that NO Record ID will appear.

Joseph

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Joseph Puentes
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> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
>
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Where do I get a record ID? Where does it appear?

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> From: makas@nc.rr.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 18:25:48 -0400
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] How To Search By Record ID
>
> 1) Create an account on https://familysearch.org/
>
> 2) Log in
>
> 3) Hover over Family Tree at the top left
>
> 4) go down to Person and select
>
> 5) click on the Down Arrow next to "person" and an ID box will be available for you to input the record ID
>
> 6) Click on the arrow
>
> Joseph
>
> =========================
>
> Joseph Puentes
> Clean@h2opodcast.com
> http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html
>
>
>
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Diego de Estrada

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I have some new info on Diego de Estrada who was married to Antonia Gomez de Espejo Velasco.

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Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Thu, 2016-07-21 01:28 | Permalink

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Diego Estrada-Bocanegra y Muñoz de la Barba Is the son of Pedro de Estrada-Bocanegra y Flores-Rubin and Ana Muñoz de la Barba.

Pedro is born in 1632 in Jalostotitlan. He is the son of Andrés de Estrada-Bocanegra and Luisa Flores-Rubin. Pedro's wife is Andrea Rodriguez-Becerra y Galindo. Pedro's children from Ana Muñoz de la Barba are illegitimate.

Luisa Flores-Rubin is the daughter of Pedro Álvarez de Montemayor and Anna Flores-Rubin.

Ana Flores-Rubin is the daughter of Conquistador Francisco Perez and Francisca Flores

Andres de Estrada-Bocanegra is the son of Bernardino Estrada (el Viejo) and Beatriz de Andrada Bocanegra

Bernardino Estrada-Bocanegra is the son of Conquistador Francisco de Estrada

Conquistador Francisco de Estrada is the son of Juan Sanchez de Estrada.

Diego Estrada-Bocanegra y Muñoz de la Barba may have been married twice. More research is needed to confirm the second marriage. Diego's first wife is Maria Antonia Gomez de Espexo
I have other Estrada-Bocanegra lines that I descend from.

R.A.Ricci

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I descend from Diego de Estrada 1672-1752 and Antonia Gomez de Espejo 1674-1722.
Their son Juan Gomez de Estrada 1697-1744 m.1729 Maria Rubio 1709-1785.
Their son Juan Manuel Gomez de Estrada 1730-1781 m.1752 Francisca de Puga 17??-17??.
Sometime in the mid 1750's Juan Manuel Gomez de Estrada began using his mother's maiden name, Rubio. This name change begins to appear on their daughter's, Juana Gertrudis, baptismal entry in Tepatitlan dated 1759.

Thereafter, two of their sons began using the last name Rubio.
Joseph Domingo Rubio 1757-17?? m.1787 Ana Dolores Padilla 17??-17??
Jose Manuel Rubio abt.1764-18?? m.1785 Maria Josefa Franco 17??-1832.

Another son, Jose Ylario 1756-17??, continued to use Gomez de Estrada. He married Maria del Rosario Velsquez in 1779.

I descend from Jose Manuel Rubio and Maria Josefa Franco.

These Rubio's lived in Mariche and Rincon de Velsquez within the Tepatitlan area.

Their son was Jose Francisco Rubio 1785-18?? m.1814 Juana Maria Agapita Placencia 1796-1834.
To which they had Jose Gertrudis Rubio 1823-19?? m. Maria Eucevia Yniguez 1823-18??.
Jose Gertrudis Rubio seems to have picked up stakes and traveled below Lake Chapala. Some of his sons, one being Jose de la Luz Rubio 1854-1910? m.1879 Daria de Anda 1864-1899, went with him.

Jose de la Luz and Daria de Anda had children in Tizapan el Alto, Tuxcueca, Teocuitatlan and finally arriving in Atenguillo had their last three children there.

Jose Gertrudis Rubio and the rest of the family went to Talpa de Allende, where some Rubios still remain.

In Atenguillo, Jose de luz Rubio bought a 11 square mile ranch, Mestinas, on the plateau.

Jose de la Luz died around 1910 after drinking a bad batch of pulque.

The ranch was managed by his brother Marcos Rubio b.1849 for Jose de la Luz' son Jose Trinidad Rubio 1896-1970 (my paternal grandfather) until he was of age.

Jose Trinidad Rubio had lots of trouble dealing with some other local ranchers. There were repeated raids on his cattle and so forth.

One strange note: There was a group of de Estradas living in Atenguillo. They claimed to be related to the Rubios, but know one knew how or why. The Estradas were fiercely loyal to my grandfather. They were valiant, to the point of psychotic, killing/stealing rival ranchers cattle, engaging in gun battles, marring women of rival families (perhaps absconding with them)and even killings.

Eventually my grandfather moved to Nayarit in the 1950's. Not much was made there and they began coming to the states in the 1960's. Jose Trinidad Rubio died 1970 in Fullerton, Ca. Three months before my b-day.

Not knowing my grandfather, not being related to other Rubios I would encounter and the fact that this family is rather clashish and hush hush about the past is what made me investigate the family tree. Being a former employee of private investigation agency helped me piece together the tree with virtually no help up until the Diego Estrada block wall. Of which I am very grateful to all here for there assistance in helping me complete my tree so far.

Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Wed, 2016-07-20 22:41 | Permalink

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Diego Estrada Bocanegra y Muñoz de Barba is the illegitimate son of Pedro Estrada Bocanegra and Ana Muñoz de la Barba.

Josefa Muñoz de la Barba and Juan De la Torre Ledesma y Palafox are the parents of Maria Ledesma (Aka Maria Gonzalez) and Antonia Ledesma. Both daughters are illegitimate as Juan de la Torre Ledesma is legally married to Isabel Marquez y Martin del Campo. It's taken many years to finally put this line together.

Ana Muñoz de la Barba and Josefa Munoz de la Barba are the daughters of Francisco Muñoz de las Barba and Catalina Gonzalez-Rubio (aka Gutierrez-Rubio)
Francisco Muñoz de la Barba is the son of Juan Muñoz de la Barba and Ann de Espindola II
Catalina is the daughter of Captain Francisco Gutierrez-Rubio and Anna Gonzalez Florida.

Thanks to Joe, Ruben, Simona, Steven (Paco) and Alexandro for helping with important pieces of the puzzle. It was a fantastic feeling to finally add the final pieces and put them together the past two days. Steven and Alejandro's contribution came many years ago but without their two cents I wouldn't been in position to put it together. Ruben's piece took me back another generation, and then Joe's piece (dispensa) added yet another generation. Going back and looking at my notes and a few dispensas on these families brought it all together.

Thanks again,
R.ick A. Ricci

Source; Mygenes2000 by R.A.Ricci

Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Wed, 2016-07-20 21:17 | Permalink

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Dear Joe,

How are you related to Manuel Alvino de Losa & Maria de Jesus Cortes de Arteaga y Estrada?

I have more on their lines.

Thanks again,
Rick A. Ricci

Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Wed, 2016-07-20 19:37 | Permalink

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Bartolome de Losa And Clara de Loza are first cousins twice. Their fathers are brothers and their mothers are sisters.

Bartolome is the son of Alejo Losa and Maria Ledesma (AKA Maria Gonzalez). (Bartolome is raised in Jalostotitlan)

Clara is the daughter of Antonio de Loza and Antonia Ledesma. (Clara is raised in Tepatitlan)

Since Maria Gonzalez (Maria Ledesma) and Antonia Ledesma are the daughters of Josepha Munoz de la Barba, and Josepha is the sister of Ana Munoz de la Barba, the mother of Diego Estrada, if we can find Josefa's parents from the clues that we have, then we will also have Ana's parents.

R.A. Ricci

Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Wed, 2016-07-20 13:19 | Permalink

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Here are records that may help in this research

Bartolome Losa Gonsales
Gender Male
Christening Date 03 Sep 1702
Christening Place NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Alexo De Losa
Mother's Name Ma. Gonsales
CITING THIS RECORD

"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK9Y-LFN : 2 January 2015), Bartolome Losa Gonsales, 03 Sep 1702; citing NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 279,253.p

Bartholome De Loza
mentioned in the record of Bartholome De Loza and Clara De Loza
Name Bartholome De Loza
Spouse's Name Clara De Loza
Event Date 11 Oct 1728
Event Place Tepatitlan De Morelos,Jalisco,Mexico
CITING THIS RECORD

"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCF3-FRS : 15 July 2015), Bartholome De Loza and Clara De Loza, 11 Oct 1728; citing Tepatitlan De Morelos,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 218,516.

Bartolo De Loza
Gender Male
Wife Clara De Loza
Son Raphael Loza Loza
Name Raphael Loza Loza
Gender Male
Christening Date 21 May 1741
Christening Place NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Bartolo De Loza
Mother's Name Clara De Loza
CITING THIS RECORD

"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J9Y1-319 : 2 January 2015), Bartolo De Loza in entry for Raphael Loza Loza, 21 May 1741; citing NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 279,256.

Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Wed, 2016-07-20 13:15 | Permalink

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Josefa de la Barba and Ana de la Barba are sisters.

Josefa is the mother of Maria Gonzales and Ana is the the mother of Diego Estrada.

This makes Maria Gonzalez and Diego Estrada first cousins.

Maria Gonzalez is the mother of Bartolome Loza and Diego Estrada is the father of Maria Efigenia de Estrada.

This makes Bartolome Loza y Gonzalez and Maria Efigenia de Estrada second cousins.

Bartolome Loza y Gonzalez is the father of Manuel Albino Losa y Losa and Ma. Efigenia de Estrada is the mother of Maria de Jesus Castro

This makes Manuel Albino Losa y Losa and Maria de Jesus Castro y Estrada third cousins which is a fourth degree relationship.

1) Josepha de la Barba
2) Maria Gonzalez
3) Bartolome de Losa y Gonzalez and Clara de Loza
4) Manuel Albino Losa y Losa

1) Ana de la Barba
2) Diego Estrada y Barba and Ma. Antonia Gomez de Espejo Velasco
3) Ma. Efigenia de Estrada y Gomez and Joseph Castro
4) Maria de Jesus Castro

R.A.Ricci

Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Wed, 2016-07-20 12:14 | Permalink

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Dear Joe,

I just now saw your post on Diego Estrada. I descend from Diego Estrada and Maria Antonia Gomez de Espejo Velasco. Your information does indicate that Diego's mother is Ana de la Barba. Back then the complete surname was Muñoz de la Barba.

Thank you for sharing,
Rick A. Ricci

Familia Torres in Guadalajara Jalisco

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I am looking for my gramas family in Guadalajara Jalisco.

I found her birth record but i am interested in meeting her family, she die when my father was 5 years old and he never meet her family-

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Published by LasFlores – Mon, 2015-11-02 12:39 | Permalink

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Is this her?
Name: Maria Mercedes Torres
Gender: Mujer (Female)
Registration or Marriage Date: 3 jul. 1930
Registration or Marriage Place: Zamora, Michoacán (Michoacan de Ocampo), México (Mexico)
Spouse: José Guadalupe Zambrano
Spouse Gender: Hombre (Male)
Spouse Age: 19
Father: Guillermo Torres
Mother: Luisa Cabreza
Page Number: 073
Do you have her death record registration? I found some information if you
need it.

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yes do you have the link for family search!!!

Are you realted to her?

Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago "El Euforia".

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:39 PM, wrote:

> Is this her? Name: Maria Mercedes Torres Gender: Mujer (Female)
> Registration
> or Marriage Date: 3 jul. 1930 Registration or Marriage Place: Zamora,
> Michoacán (Michoacan de Ocampo), México (Mexico) Spouse: José Guadalupe
> Zambrano Spouse Gender: Hombre (Male) Spouse Age: 19 Father: Guillermo
> Torres
> Mother: Luisa Cabreza Page Number: 073 Do you have her death record
> registration? I found some information if you need it.
>

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please let me have any thing you have, i got lucky in ancestry and got her
birth record. I was looking in all the wrong places for it lol.

Thank you very much. I was trying to see the tores family from jalisco to
see if anyone was realted to her i really want to meet them.

Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago "El Euforia".

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 6:00 AM, JOSE L. Zambrano
wrote:

> yes do you have the link for family search!!!
>
> Are you realted to her?
>
> Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago "El Euforia".
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:39 PM, wrote:
>
>> Is this her? Name: Maria Mercedes Torres Gender: Mujer (Female)
>> Registration
>> or Marriage Date: 3 jul. 1930 Registration or Marriage Place: Zamora,
>> Michoacán (Michoacan de Ocampo), México (Mexico) Spouse: José Guadalupe
>> Zambrano Spouse Gender: Hombre (Male) Spouse Age: 19 Father: Guillermo
>> Torres
>> Mother: Luisa Cabreza Page Number: 073 Do you have her death record
>> registration? I found some information if you need it.
>>

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I am looking in family search cant find the record where did you find it?

Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago "El Euforia".

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:39 PM, wrote:

> Is this her? Name: Maria Mercedes Torres Gender: Mujer (Female)
> Registration
> or Marriage Date: 3 jul. 1930 Registration or Marriage Place: Zamora,
> Michoacán (Michoacan de Ocampo), México (Mexico) Spouse: José Guadalupe
> Zambrano Spouse Gender: Hombre (Male) Spouse Age: 19 Father: Guillermo
> Torres
> Mother: Luisa Cabreza Page Number: 073 Do you have her death record
> registration? I found some information if you need it.
>

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The marriage record is on Ancestry.com. To find on Familysearch.org: click to records: Mexico, Michoacan, Zamora, marriages 1923-1930 Image# 593 of 698, page #073, entry# 119. I did a search with names and only Mexico, no specific state. Sometimes you have to just go for a wild search.
Citation

"México, Michoacán, Registro Civil, 1859-1940," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-21985-72481-32?cc=1916243 : accessed 3 November 2015), Zamora > Matrimonios 1923-1930 > image 593 of 688; Direccion del Registro Civil y Notarias de Michoacán (Michoacán Civil Registry State Archives).

I'm not related, just helping out since Ancestry.com has had all these records and indexes for free. You may need to research all her family in order to try to connect with relatives. Search for brothers, sisters, and their respective families if possible. That's how I do it and I have had some luck with distant relatives from
Guanajuato, Mexico. Well, I didn't exactly get to meet with the person, my brother did. but we got a photograph. Best of luck in your search. I understand the need to connect.
Gloria

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thank you so much

Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago "El Euforia".

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:41 PM, wrote:

> The marriage record is on Ancestry.com. To find on Familysearch.org: click
> to
> records: Mexico, Michoacan, Zamora, marriages 1923-1930 Image# 593 of 698,
> page #073, entry# 119. I did a search with names and only Mexico, no
> specific
> state. Sometimes you have to just go for a wild search. Citation "México,
> Michoacán, Registro Civil, 1859-1940," images, FamilySearch
> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-21985-72481-32?cc=1916243 :
> accessed 3 November 2015), Zamora > Matrimonios 1923-1930 > image 593 of
> 688;
> Direccion del Registro Civil y Notarias de Michoacán (Michoacán Civil
> Registry State Archives). I'm not related, just helping out since
> Ancestry.com has had all these records and indexes for free. You may need
> to
> research all her family in order to try to connect with relatives. Search
> for
> brothers, sisters, and their respective families if possible. That's how I
> do
> it and I have had some luck with distant relatives from Guanajuato, Mexico.
> Well, I didn't exactly get to meet with the person, my brother did. but we
> got a photograph. Best of luck in your search. I understand the need to
> connect. Gloria
>

Margarito Torres 1933 death registration La Blanca

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Margarito Torres of La Blanca Zacatecas was my great grandfather. I found his death registration but I'm having a hard time reading it.

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Published by LasFlores – Sun, 2015-11-01 19:58 | Permalink

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This is not an answer to your question but maybe you still need this record
Trinidad Morales

in the Zacatecas, Mexico, Civil Registration Deaths, 1861-1987
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Report issue

Name: Trinidad Morales
Gender: Hombre (Male)
Age: 25
Birth Year: abt 1877
Death Registration Date: 18 abr. 1902 (18 Apr 1902)
Death Registration Place: Tacoaleche, Zacatecas, México (Mexico)
Spouse: Cristobal Torres
Father: Irineo Morales
Mother: Maria Paz Escalante
Page Number: 8

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Thank you. I do not have that record. If this is the same person, did they record the gender incorrectly? It says Trinidad was male, but then it has the spouse listed as Cristobal.

Is Trinidad in your family tree as well?

Published by manny – Sun, 2015-11-01 09:53 | Permalink

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Sorry, that should have said that I thought his parents were Cristoval Torres and TRINIDAD Morales not Teresa, but I think the document says they are his grandparents. Is that correct?

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It is hard to read but this is what I understood:

Cristoval Torres, 68 years, married?, farmer, from and neigbor of Saladillo declares that today at 16 hours (PM) Margarito Torres died at age 38.
The disease that killed him was fever and he was buried in the local cemetery.
Paternal grandparents: Cristoval Torres, living, and Trinidad Morales, deceased.
Maternal grandparents: Jose ¿? and S¿? M¿?

Regards,
Victoriano Navarro

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"México, Zacatecas, registros parroquiales, 1605-1980," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15088-14517-23?cc=1804458 : accessed 2 November 2015), General Pánfilo Natera > Santa Ana > Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1881-1903 > image 550 of 815; paróquias Católicas, Zacatecas (Catholic Church parishes, Zacatecas).

March 28, 1897
Margarito , hijo legitimo de Cristobal Ortiz y Trinidad Morales.
Abuelos paternos; Epifano Ortiz y Rita Torres
Abuelos maternos: Yrenco Morales y Paz Escalante
Padrinos: Begnino Rodriguez y Leandra Rodriguez

Gloria

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Jan 08, 1896
Cristobal Torres single, 31, of La Blanca,natural son of Jose & Rita Torres, both deceased and
Maria Trinidad Morales, 16, original of Francoso? leg d/Ireneo Morales, deceased & Maria de la Paz Escalante , living,

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"México, Zacatecas, registros parroquiales, 1605-1980," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15069-9943-25?cc=1804458 : accessed 2 November 2015), General Pánfilo Natera > Santa Ana > Matrimonios 1881-1905 Información matrimonial 1883-1888 > image 152 of 720; paróquias Católicas, Zacatecas (Catholic Church parishes, Zacatecas).

Gloria

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Margarito Torres 1933 death
Submitted by victorianonavarro on Sun, 2015-11-01 19:43.
It is hard to read but this is what I understood:

Cristoval Torres, 68 years, married?, farmer, from and neigbor of Saladillo declares that today at 16 hours (PM) Margarito Torres died at age 38.
The disease that killed him was fever and he was buried in the local cemetery.
Paternal grandparents: Cristoval Torres, living, and Trinidad Morales, deceased.
Maternal grandparents: Jose ¿? and S¿? M¿?

Regards,
Victoriano Navarro




Thank you Victoriano. That's what I got as well. I really wish they had used typewriters back then. It would have made our work much easier. LOL

Texas Manifest Coding

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Has anyone researched the coding notation on a Texas Manifest written years later on the same manifest? I'm curious as to what this means ( see bottom writing on attachment).

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Beatriz de Mayorga daughter of Alvaro Marin de Peñaloza

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Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

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Danny,
Here is how I read the highlighted passage...

Itten. declaro para el descargo de mi conciencia ser deudora de quinientos noventa y cuatro pesos a mi hijo José Martin de Sotomayor que suplió y pago por mí y por dicho difunto mi esposo en este modo cuatro cientos y veinticinco pesos que pago al alférez real don Juan Fernández de Palos, vecino de esta villa

Hasta pronto
Austin Perez

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I started my search for mayorgas with no success back a few years ago. In truth I had nothing but the husband's name. A great uncle Francisco Lopez Contreras (1855) son of Dorotheo Lopez Escareno con Guadalupe Contreras Delgado married a mayorga and somewhere the name Ursua appears don't know if he married twice. I don't know if they are any relation to your mayorgas a few hundred years forward. I should mention that about this time the Alonsos began to appear in my maternal line with a few interesting stories.

Published by dcalonso – Tue, 2015-10-20 16:00 | Permalink

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Simona,

I'd be interersted in your Alonsos, I have hundreds of Alonsos I might be
able to help connect your Alonsos and my Alonsos.

Danny C. Alonso

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:37 AM, wrote:

> I started my search for mayorgas with no success back a few years ago. In
> truth I had nothing but the husband's name. A great uncle Francisco Lopez
> Contreras (1855) son of Dorotheo Lopez Escareno con Guadalupe Contreras
> Delgado married a mayorga and somewhere the name Ursua appears don't know
> if
> he married twice. I don't know if they are any relation to your mayorgas a
> few hundred years forward. I should mention that about this time the
> Alonsos
> began to appear in my maternal line with a few interesting stories.
>

Locating a "libro reservado" in baptismal records, Asuncion de Maria, Aguascalientes

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In reviewing the digital copy of an indexed baptism, the priest indicated that the names of the parents and the grandparents paternos and maternos were located in the "libro reservado," Checking sever

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Published by LasFlores – Sat, 2015-09-19 16:51 | Permalink

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I'm wondering if it would be quicker to write a letter to the parish priest at Asuncion de Maria to inquire about the libro reservado. You can easily find the addesss on Google.

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Hi Renee,
I don't know what a libro reservado is, but, the record you're looking for is here:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11811-103746-23?cc=1502404…

Jose Pedro is listed as being born in Rancho de la Trinidad, hijo legitimo de D. Francisco Luebano y de Da. Cleofas Prieto. Abuelos Paternos, D. Mateo Luebano y de Da. Manuela Moreno. Abuelos Maternos, D. Santiago Prieto y de Da. Gertrudis Castaneda. Padrinos, D. Jose Maria Perez y de Da. Petronila Esparza.

You mention a discrepancy with the surname of Da. Gertrudis Castaneda, but, do not mention the discrepancy. I'm guessing that she also uses the surname Lopez, which, is the last name of her mother, Michaela Lopez.

Christopher de Cuellar

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Thank you Christopher. That is the record I sought, it appears to have been entered twice, once with the family and once without - hard to believe I read right over that entry on the proceeding page. The discrepancy was exactly as you state, Da. Gertrudis Castaneda was identified as Da. Gertrudis Lopez. I'm hoping that you are related to this family, since you knew that Lopez was the name of her mother MIcaela, yes?
Thank you for your help.

Renée Capels

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Thank you Christopher. That is the record I sought, it appears to have been entered twice, once with the family and once without - hard to believe I read right over that entry on the proceeding page. The discrepancy was exactly as you state, Da. Gertrudis Castaneda was identified as Da. Gertrudis Lopez. I'm hoping that you are related to this family, since you knew that Lopez was the name of her mother MIcaela, yes?
Thank you for your help.

Renée Capels

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Hi Renee,

No, I'm not related to this family. I just looked at the marriage of D. Santiago Prieto and Da. Gertrudis Castaneda, so it was just a guess that she was going to use her mother's last name of Lopez, although, she could've also used her grandmother's name of Esparza too. Actually, I just looked and there is a Gertrudis Esparza married to a Santiago Prieto, so, that's probably also the same person as Gertrudis Castaneda.

Chris

    

Published by LasFlores – Sat, 2015-09-19 16:51 | Permalink

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I'm wondering if it would be quicker to write a letter to the parish priest at Asuncion de Maria to inquire about the libro reservado. You can easily find the addesss on Google.

Garibay Gutierrez

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Antes que nada quiero presentarme ya que este es mi primer hilo, es un gusto estar aquí y espero poder compartir todo lo que pueda.

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Published by Enrique Gariba… – Thu, 2016-01-28 22:24 | Permalink

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I found the parents of Rafael Garibay, they was Don Antonio Garibay and Doña Antonia Sanchez.

Rafael Garibay widower of Ygnacia Gutierres he remarried with Petra Chavolla

Married on July 28, 1828 in Guadalajara at 50 years old with Petra Chavolla daughter of Don Silvestre Chavolla and Doña Barbara Sanchez de Ulloa

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DLF1-B?mode=g&i=619&wc=3JW…

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I'm sorry I don't speak Spanish but do understand enough to do research.
I have lots of Garibay from Zamora and Chilchota, Michoacan and then many of them came into Jalisco. My research is for the earlier years but when you reach that point you might want to check my files on Rootwebs.com. They came into my Mother line when an Ochoa married into her line but not directly. I did mark the ones related to my Mother and her name is Dolores Gutierrez (1924) My file is called Mexico and just go to the index and check Garibay, there are a couple of Ochoa Garibay too.
Linda Castanon-Long
Olympia Wa.

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Many thx linda, I searched for months but can not find anything, I think maybe Francisco Garibay Gutierrez was not born in Zamora as his marriage says

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if someone can help me to find more information about Rafael Garibay and Ygnacia Gutierrez

Here additional data about their grandchildren

Jose Maria Higinio Garibay Estevez(b.1830)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4990gwf7n3iybcu/jose%20maria%20higinio.JPG?dl…

Teresa de Jesus Lucrecia (b.1831)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l93hhgvyc54i2s5/teresa%20de%20jesus.JPG?dl=0

Jesus Ygnacia Cresencia (b.1828)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0n2b44olykfg0rw/ygnacia%20cresencia.JPG?dl=0

Bernardo Maria Donaciano (b. 1834)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ks06wr0qfjkyxrk/bernardo.JPG?dl=0

Marquez del Olivo Family tree data compilation Zacatecas and Jalisco

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I have seen many post regarding this family tree. I have 4 family tree branches connect to this family tree. Can we make a shared family tree. POsting all data about this tree.

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Published by itzcoatzin – Fri, 2015-07-17 10:34 | Permalink

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does anyone have data on this family ancestors

I have baptism of Jesus Marquez Carlos and Josefa Marquez Carlos.

Fathers Eugenio Marquez and Refugio carlos the family search does not have records that far back i don't know how to search for data on them, please show me a good source for me to read and research if needed.

Baptism records show Grandparents to be Juan Marquez And Trinidad Enciso.

This baptism were in Colotlan, Jalisco Mexico records but may be from Zacatecas.

Please share any record you have on this and maybe show me a good source for me to reasearch since i don't know any other place other then Family Search to look for ancestors.

Thank you Primos

Published by Joseph de Leon – Mon, 2015-07-13 08:39 | Permalink

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Primos,

Juan Marquez de los Olivos and Josefa Baptista de Rubalcaba (b. abt 1649) are my 8th GGPs.

I have almost 600 individuals with the surname Marquez / Marquez de los Olivos in my Joseph de Leon Family Tree posted here on Nuestros Ranchos in the GEDCOM tab.

This Tree is here to share with all of you.

Joseph de Leon

Published by itzcoatzin – Sun, 2015-07-12 14:36 | Permalink

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Eugenio Marquez

spouse: Refugio Carlos

child: José De Jesus Marquez
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07011-4 , System Origin: Mexico-EASy , GS Film number: 443689 , Reference ID: p 167 ,

child: Andrea Marquez Carlos
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60464-7 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 443686 ,

child: Pablo Marquez Carlos
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60464-7 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 443686 ,

child: Josefa Marquez Carlos
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60464-6 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 443685 ,

child: Luiza Marquez Carlos
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60464-6 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 443685 ,

child: Maria Segunda Marquez Carlos
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60464-5 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 443684 ,

child: Julian Marquez Cárlos
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07011-0 , System Origin: Mexico-EASy , GS Film number: 443690 , Reference ID: v 40 p 132 ,

child: Tranquilino Marquez Carlos
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60464-7 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 443686 ,

child: Pascual Marquez Carlos
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60464-8 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 443687 ,

Eugenio Marquez
Mexico, Marriages, 1570-1950
marriage: 16 January 1861 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
spouse: Refugio Carlos
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60465-6 , System
Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 443786 ,

Does anyone need to add this people in their family tree let me know so we use the same id number. Also i dont have money to get the digital copies from the film does anyone have any of this records willing to share via Family search tree?

Published by itzcoatzin – Sun, 2015-07-12 13:34 | Permalink

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This person has 3 entries in family search. Please post any data you have on him. Such as id number, birth, baptism,marriage,death, and children perishes. So that we can add all data to one id number is family search and use that id with all attached perishes.

Eugenio Marquez Enciso (1844) (1º oo) & Ma del Refugio Carlos Guizar (13 Nov 1870 ) (hija de Demetria & Ma Santos) ( Momax, Zac.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NDZD-CLS

Children
Jesus Marquez
LVQ6-3WR

Josefa Marques
LV7R-59N

Maria Luisa Marquez
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18688-52665-86?cc=1874591&wc…

Grandparents:
Juan Marquez and Trinidad Enciso
Juan Carlos and Josefa Mayorga (2nd marriage)

Please share any more data you have in this. So we can add id number to Eugenio and add the perish records to it.

Mendozas from 1700's San Luis Potosi

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I was wondering if anyone might be able to assist me in continuing my research into the Mendoza family surname.

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Published by jrefugioghermosillo – Sun, 2014-12-07 14:52 | Permalink

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Hi David,

I did a quick search on FamilySearch, I haven’t pulled any of the records, but here’s some little leads that might help you.

Juan Nicolas Mendoza was married to Maria Dorotea Serda, aka Maria Dorotea de Oballe (Ovalle). I haven't found their marriage nor parents, but I found baptism records for 6 possible children, between the years 1802 and 1819, in San Geronimo.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JMH6-WGM
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NLVZ-R85
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLV7-BYX
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JMHD-SXN
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JMHD-SXK
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NK71-D3R

You'll want to pull these records and check ranchos & padrinos.

Keep running searches using both "Maria Dorotea de la Serda" and "Maria Dorotea de Oballe." A prominent surname in Nueva Galicia is "Lopez de la Serda," so you might want to try running searches giving her the surname "Lopez."

Maria Bruna Gamez’s parents were Jose Simon Gamez and Maria Josefa de Ovalle. I found baptisms for a possible 7 children born between 1794 and 1815 in San Geronimo. Simon Gamez and Maria Josefa Ovalle appear with different combinations of names (Antonio Simon, Maria Simona, Maria de la Encarnacion) - these might not all be the same couple, but again, check the ranchos and the padrinos.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NLVD-KKM
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NLV8-12Q
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JSCD-WZK
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NLV7-1LK
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NLV7-1GQ
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NLV7-VRP
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NLV7-24G

I'm surprised Salvador and Maria Bruna didn't require a dispensa, both having "Ovalle" in their lines. I've been digging through my lines in Morelia, Tlazazalca and Patzcuaro, Michoacan, and "Serda," "Mendoza" and "Ovalle" all appear frequently in the 1600s. Might be a good place to check next, once the trail runs dry in San Geronimo.

Hope that helps, and Happy Holidays!

Manny Diez Hermosillo
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/jrefugioghermosillo

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