Need Help With The Rivera Family
Hello I have not Searched to Much on this Line But i think I am Ready to See where this Line Leaves me at
as Of Now I have
Hello I have not Searched to Much on this Line But i think I am Ready to See where this Line Leaves me at
as Of Now I have
I found the Death Record for "Marina Rendon", 09 Dec 1775 in Aguascalentes. She was 54 years of age. Her name is recorded as"Anna".
Wait, Ana and Marina are sisters. They both used their mothers name
MAcias Valadez. MArina was maried to Eusevio de Mata y Rebollar
while Ana was married to Cristobal de Santos Bustos.
Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:53:39 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marina Rendon
>
> I found the Death Record for "Marina Rendon", 09 Dec 1775 in Aguascalentes. She was 54 years of age. Her name is recorded as"Anna". The parents are correct: Bartholome Rendon and Maria Macias Valades. The Record indicates that she was the Widow of Christobal de Santos y Busto. If it is the same "Marina/Anna", my information was that she married to Eusebio de Maya y Rebollar. Any ideas are welcome.
>
Is it "Marina" or "Maria"?
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[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:12 PM
To: Patty Hoyos
Subject: [SPAM]Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marina Rendon
Wait, Ana and Marina are sisters. They both used their mothers name
MAcias Valadez. MArina was maried to Eusevio de Mata y Rebollar
while Ana was married to Cristobal de Santos Bustos.
Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:53:39 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marina Rendon
>
> I found the Death Record for "Marina Rendon", 09 Dec 1775 in
Aguascalentes. She was 54 years of age. Her name is recorded as"Anna". The
parents are correct: Bartholome Rendon and Maria Macias Valades. The Record
indicates that she was the Widow of Christobal de Santos y Busto. If it is
the same "Marina/Anna", my information was that she married to Eusebio de
Maya y Rebollar. Any ideas are welcome.
>
Marina, the baptismal record that was extracted says Maria, but if you look
at the actual record I read Marina. In all records its Marina, I think the extractor
made a mistake with this.
Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:34:33 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] [SPAM]Re: Marina Rendon
>
> Is it "Marina" or "Maria"?
>
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> Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:12 PM
> To: Patty Hoyos
> Subject: [SPAM]Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marina Rendon
>
>
> Wait, Ana and Marina are sisters. They both used their mothers name
>
> MAcias Valadez. MArina was maried to Eusevio de Mata y Rebollar
>
> while Ana was married to Cristobal de Santos Bustos.
>
>
>
>
>
> Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
>
>
>
>
> > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:53:39 -0700
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marina Rendon
> >
> > I found the Death Record for "Marina Rendon", 09 Dec 1775 in
> Aguascalentes. She was 54 years of age. Her name is recorded as"Anna". The
> parents are correct: Bartholome Rendon and Maria Macias Valades. The Record
> indicates that she was the Widow of Christobal de Santos y Busto. If it is
> the same "Marina/Anna", my information was that she married to Eusebio de
> Maya y Rebollar. Any ideas are welcome.
> >
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Is Maria Antonio Rendon the same as Anna Rendon?
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:37 PM
To: Patty Hoyos
Subject: [SPAM]Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] [SPAM]Re: Marina Rendon
Marina, the baptismal record that was extracted says Maria, but if you look
at the actual record I read Marina. In all records its Marina, I think the
extractor
made a mistake with this.
Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:34:33 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] [SPAM]Re: Marina Rendon
>
> Is it "Marina" or "Maria"?
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:12 PM
> To: Patty Hoyos
> Subject: [SPAM]Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marina Rendon
>
>
> Wait, Ana and Marina are sisters. They both used their mothers name
>
> MAcias Valadez. MArina was maried to Eusevio de Mata y Rebollar
>
> while Ana was married to Cristobal de Santos Bustos.
>
>
>
>
>
> Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
>
>
>
>
> > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:53:39 -0700
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marina Rendon
> >
> > I found the Death Record for "Marina Rendon", 09 Dec 1775 in
> Aguascalentes. She was 54 years of age. Her name is recorded as"Anna". The
> parents are correct: Bartholome Rendon and Maria Macias Valades. The
Record
> indicates that she was the Widow of Christobal de Santos y Busto. If it is
> the same "Marina/Anna", my information was that she married to Eusebio de
> Maya y Rebollar. Any ideas are welcome.
> >
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Nope, Maria Antonia Rendon is a sister to Ana and Marina. Antonia
died 28 juy 1732 in Aguascalientes. Antonia was I thnk the only
one thatused her dads name Rendon. The others used Macias Valadez.
They also had a Joaquin Rendon who died 18 march 1741 in Aguascalientes
he was married to Maria Teresa de Ulloa.
Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:43:17 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]Re: Marina Rendon
>
> Is Maria Antonio Rendon the same as Anna Rendon?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> Sent: 28> made a mistake with this.
>
>
>
> Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
>
>
>
>
> > From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:34:33 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] [SPAM]Re: Marina Rendon
> >
> > Is it "Marina" or "Maria"?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
> > Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:12 PM
> > To: Patty Hoyos
> > Subject: [SPAM]Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marina Rendon
> >
> >
> > Wait, Ana and Marina are sisters. They both used their mothers name
> >
> > MAcias Valadez. MArina was maried to Eusevio de Mata y Rebollar
> >
> > while Ana was married to Cristobal de Santos Bustos.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:53:39 -0700
> > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marina Rendon
> > >
> > > I found the Death Record for "Marina Rendon", 09 Dec 1775 in
> > Aguascalentes. She was 54 years of age. Her name is recorded as"Anna". The
> > parents are correct: Bartholome Rendon and Maria Macias Valades. The
> Record
> > indicates that she was the Widow of Christobal de Santos y Busto. If it is
> > the same "Marina/Anna", my information was that she married to Eusebio de
> > Maya y Rebollar. Any ideas are welcome.
> > >
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Would you like me scan Anna's Death Record and e-mail to you, for your
research files?
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:50 PM
To: Patty Hoyos
Subject: [SPAM]Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]Re: Marina Rendon
Nope, Maria Antonia Rendon is a sister to Ana and Marina. Antonia
died 28 juy 1732 in Aguascalientes. Antonia was I thnk the only
one thatused her dads name Rendon. The others used Macias Valadez.
They also had a Joaquin Rendon who died 18 march 1741 in Aguascalientes
he was married to Maria Teresa de Ulloa.
Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:43:17 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]Re: Marina Rendon
>
> Is Maria Antonio Rendon the same as Anna Rendon?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> Sent: 28> made a mistake with this.
>
>
>
> Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
>
>
>
>
> > From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:34:33 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] [SPAM]Re: Marina Rendon
> >
> > Is it "Marina" or "Maria"?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
> > Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:12 PM
> > To: Patty Hoyos
> > Subject: [SPAM]Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marina Rendon
> >
> >
> > Wait, Ana and Marina are sisters. They both used their mothers name
> >
> > MAcias Valadez. MArina was maried to Eusevio de Mata y Rebollar
> >
> > while Ana was married to Cristobal de Santos Bustos.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:53:39 -0700
> > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marina Rendon
> > >
> > > I found the Death Record for "Marina Rendon", 09 Dec 1775 in
> > Aguascalentes. She was 54 years of age. Her name is recorded as"Anna".
The
> > parents are correct: Bartholome Rendon and Maria Macias Valades. The
> Record
> > indicates that she was the Widow of Christobal de Santos y Busto. If it
is
> > the same "Marina/Anna", my information was that she married to Eusebio
de
> > Maya y Rebollar. Any ideas are welcome.
> > >
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SUre...thanks
Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:59:32 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]Re: Marina Rendon
>
> Would you like me scan Anna's Death Record and e-mail to you, for your
> research files?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:50 PM
> To: Patty Hoyos
> Subject: [SPAM]Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]Re: Marina Rendon
>
>
> Nope, Maria Antonia Rendon is a sister to Ana and Marina. Antonia
>
> died 28 juy 1732 in Aguascalientes. Antonia was I thnk the only
>
> one thatused her dads name Rendon. The others used Macias Valadez.
>
> They also had a Joaquin Rendon who died 18 march 1741 in Aguascalientes
>
> he was married to Maria Teresa de Ulloa.
>
>
>
> Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
>
>
>
>
> > From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:43:17 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]Re: Marina Rendon
> >
> > Is Maria Antonio Rendon the same as Anna Rendon?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
> > Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> > Sent: 28> made a mistake with this.
> >
> >
> >
> > Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:34:33 -0700
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] [SPAM]Re: Marina Rendon
> > >
> > > Is it "Marina" or "Maria"?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
> > > Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:12 PM
> > > To: Patty Hoyos
> > > Subject: [SPAM]Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marina Rendon
> > >
> > >
> > > Wait, Ana and Marina are sisters. They both used their mothers name
> > >
> > > MAcias Valadez. MArina was maried to Eusevio de Mata y Rebollar
> > >
> > > while Ana was married to Cristobal de Santos Bustos.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > > From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:53:39 -0700
> > > > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marina Rendon
> > > >
> > > > I found the Death Record for "Marina Rendon", 09 Dec 1775 in
> > > Aguascalentes. She was 54 years of age. Her name is recorded as"Anna".
> The
> > > parents are correct: Bartholome Rendon and Maria Macias Valades. The
> > Record
> > > indicates that she was the Widow of Christobal de Santos y Busto. If it
> is
> > > the same "Marina/Anna", my information was that she married to Eusebio
> de
> > > Maya y Rebollar. Any ideas are welcome.
> > > >
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Alexis,
I am also researching the Romos from Encarnacion. I link to Santo Toribio through his mother's line (Gtz).
I descend from his mother and fathers lines. From his mom's lines my grandfather was closely related thRough the gonzalez, gutierrez, Romo and Jimenez. From his fathers the close relatonship was through the Romo.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 08:07:55
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Romos- Research Digest, Vol 54, Issue 10
Alexis,
I am also researching the Romos from Encarnacion. I link to Santo Toribio through his mother's line (Gtz). Since I also have Romo in my ancestry, as well as have cousins whose father was Romo via both of his parents. Their father ties to my Romos via his maternal line--via his paternal line, I have suspected that they link to Santo Toribio's fathers line due to the Encarnacion connection. Would you be willing to share off line what we have? My cousins were always told that their father's paternal line was from SLP, but I am discovering otherwise. My cousins also resemble Santo Toribio and his father.
Thanks,
Irma Gomez Gtz
N. California
4. Romo Line- Encarnacion De Diaz (alexisvillagrana@yahoo.com)
5. Romos of Encarnacion & told of connection w/ Santo Toribio
Romo (alexisvillagrana@yahoo.com)
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 00:56:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: alexisvillagrana@yahoo.com
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Romo Line- Encarnacion De Diaz
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Alexis Villagrana I have some information on the Romo line which I have not yet posted. I have been away in mourning (I lost my brother) & just barely getting a chance to read these posts!
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 01:08:03 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Romos of Encarnacion & told of connection
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I may have some information. I have not yet posted everything on here. My mother's family are the Romo's of Encarnacion and so far have gone back to 1810 & found that I'm still able to go back further but had to stop due to a death in my family. I saw a connection to a Toribio Romo in our family tree. Also, it has been told in our family, that this relative of ours was a Saint with their own shrine located near Encarnacion; I need to go through my files in storage & will post back...This may take awhile so bear with me!
I was wondering if anyone has any info on this couple or family. I believe that my 5th g-grandfather Francisco Sotomayor was their son.
dont have too much info but PEREZ DE LA BASTIDA is a compound name formed when
Diego Perez married Luisa de la Bastida in Mexico City. They at least had three children
Garcia PEREZ DE LA BASTIDA and DIEGO PEREZ DE LA BASTIDA, baptized 5 JUNE 1573
and 18 DEC 1571 both in the parish of SANTA CATARINA MARTIR. in MEXICO CITY.
They had a daughter named Leonor who married N. on 12 aug 1593 in SANTA VERACRUZ,
MEXICO CITY. Hope this helps?
Regards,
Daniel
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> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 09:58:51 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] My Brick Wall
>
> I was wondering if anyone has any info on this couple or family. I believe that my 5th g-grandfather Francisco Sotomayor was their son. His marriage record to Anna Gertrudis Mendez showed his parents as Diego Soto and Maria Lorensa Peres ..... also he used several surnames on various family documents - always paired with Anna Gertrudis Mendez - these were Soto, Sala y Sotomayor, Salas. Coincidence? Maybe - but it deserves some investigation.
>
>
>
> Quisiera saber si alguien tiene algunos datos sobre esta pareja. Sospecho que mi 5 bisabuelo Francisco Sotomayor fue su hijo. La partida del matrimonio de mi 5 bisabuelo con Anna Gertrudis Mendez estan como padres Diego Soto y Maria Lorensa Peres .... y en otros documentos el uso various apellidos - siempre con Anna Gertrudis Mendez - fueron Soto, Sala y Sotomayor, Salas. Es muy possible que sea una simple coincidencia pero merece mas investigacion.
>
>
>
> Diego Tristan de Velasco Orive Salazar Y Sotomayor
>
> Maria Lorensa Peres de la Bastida y Villareal
>
> Married 13 Jul 1693 Asuncion, Mexico, Distrito Federal, Mexico
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> Batch M619651
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> Thanks in advance
>
> -Angelina-
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Angelina, it sounds very interesting. You may want to contact them in advance and tell them that you are coming. This way they can have it paged for you.
Dear Group,
I think I've just been thrown another interesting curve on my genealogical road...
I know to research B/Valderrama, Rubio/Ruvio, etc. However,
Are the last names Santibanes and Ibane
Using the Family History pilot site [I haven't checked the microfilm yet],
I found Miguel Reveles born Sep 29, 1896, and baptized in Parroquia de la
Inmaculada Concepción, Jerez de Garcia Salin
I have no way of knowing if this is your Timoteo Reveles but the baptism date for him makes him a candidate for your Timoteo. You will need to order the film to confirm it.
good luck, Linda in Marietta
baptism 25 Aug 1867 in Jerez
Timoteo born in Ojo de Agua 22 Aug 1867 4am
parents: Julio Reveles and Atilana Santiago
pat grn: Leandro Reveles and Gertrudis Soto
mat grn: Calixto de Santiago and Josefa de los Santos
pad: Timoteo Castano and Amadora Hernandez
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
J600809 1867 - 1869 0439852 Jerez baptism
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reveles in Jerez de Garcia Salinas
Using the Family History pilot site [I haven't checked the microfilm yet],
I found Miguel Reveles born Sep 29, 1896, and baptized in Parroquia de la
Inmaculada Concepción, Jerez de Garcia Salinas. His parents were Timoteo
Reveles and Teresa Huizar. He immigrated to the US in 1915 and lived in Los
Angeles.
Does anyone recognize these names?
Thanks.
Brenda
>
> The Houston Hispanic Genealogical Society is having a State Convention
> on September 24, 25, 26 2010.
If anyone has Martel or would be interested in communicating with this
person please email him directly:
Estimados señores: Soy vecino del barrio de Triana de Sevilla (España) y
estoy muy i
Can anyone help me with this couple? Bartholome died on 07 Jan 1728 in Aguascalientes, and he and Maria Macias Valdes had at least two children: Marina Rendon, and Joquin Rendon.
They also had Maria Antonia who died
28 Jul 1732 and should have been born 1717.
Marina was baptized 14 jun 1721 in Aguascalientes.
Even if we were to find the marriage record it would not list
the parents of Bartolome they should have married after 1700
by 1701 the priest does not mention parents until 1724
or so.
Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
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> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:22:53 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Bartholome de Rendon = Maria Macias Valdes
>
> Can anyone help me with this couple? Bartholome died on 07 Jan 1728 in Aguascalientes, and he and Maria Macias Valdes had at least two children: Marina Rendon, and Joquin Rendon. They are my maternal 6th Great Grandparents.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Paul Gomez
I want to say he is GOMEZ RENDON, but there is no proof, the Rendon family, theres only
one I know of GOMEZ RENDON from Teocaltiche and Aguascalientes. These guys
also had a ANA MACIAS VALADEZ (she used her moms name) who married Cristobal
de SANTOS BUSTOS they had several kids and at least two grandkids.
Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
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> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:22:53 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Bartholome de Rendon = Maria Macias Valdes
>
> Can anyone help me with this couple? Bartholome died on 07 Jan 1728 in Aguascalientes, and he and Maria Macias Valdes had at least two children: Marina Rendon, and Joquin Rendon. They are my maternal 6th Great Grandparents.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Paul Gomez
The records for the state of Hidalgo (church records) are now online.
Do you know when another geographical part of Nueva Galicia specifically, Nayarit, will be online?
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The records for the state of Hidalgo (church records) are now online.
Family search is currently working on Zacatecas Catholic church Records, so
no official date of release but I was told soon. So we'll see in the future, wont
be suprised if Zacatecas is out by end of the year. Jalisco will take some time.
There are millions of records for Jalisco the poplation density of Jalisco is that of
Mexico City.
Daniel
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please visit www.mormon.org
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> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] PILOT SITE UPDATE
>
> Do you know when another geographical part of Nueva Galicia specifically, Nayarit, will be online?
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> The records for the state of Hidalgo (church records) are now online.
>
Hola,
Necesito ayuda para encontrar a mis ancestros, alguien tiene información sobre los Guerra de Lagos de Moreno o Union de San Antonio?
http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/s/search/index/record-search-advanced#se…
Groom name
Juan Antonio Guerra
Bride name
Maria De Sor. San Joseph Gonzales
Marriage date
04 Feb 1773
Marriage place
Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
Batch number
M60418-5
Record group
Mexico-ODM
Film number
221516>
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Groom name
Diego Guerra
Bride name
Maria De La Trenidad
Marriage date
08 Jan 1772
Marriage place
Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
Batch number
M60418-5
Record group
Mexico-ODM
Film number
221516
Jose De Los Dolores Felipe Santiago Guerra Gonzales
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#searchType=close&…
Lety R
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Como es Diego Guerra pariente de Juan Antonio Guerra? nieto?
Daniel
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> From: pattyharo@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:16:44 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gonzalez Guerra ó Guerra Gonzalez en Lagos de Moreno
>
> Hola,
> Necesito ayuda para encontrar a mis ancestros, alguien tiene información sobre los Guerra de Lagos de Moreno o Union de San Antonio?
>
> He logrado rastrear desde mi tataraabuelo Salvador Gonzalez Guerra nacido 21 de octubre 1845, hijo de Jose Epifanio Gonzalez y Ana Antonia Guerra casados alrededor de 1844.
> Epifanio Gonzalez, hijo de Rafael Gonzalez y Cesarea Moreno casados en 1784
> Ana Antonia Guerra, hija de Santiago Guerra y Juana Gertrudis Guerra
> Santiago Guerra, bautismo 14 de mayo 1780, hijo de Diego Guerra y Trinidad Gonzalez.
> Juana Gertrudis Guerra, hija de Juan Antonio Guerra y Maria de San Jose Gonzalez
>
>
> Alguien me podría ayudar por favor con mas sobre los Guerra y los Gonzalez de esta rama que parece ser se entrecruzo varias veces.
>
> Muchas Gracias
>
>
>
Hola Marta,
Usando http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home hago busquedas de bautismos usando Birth en Event, Jalisco, Mexico en Location, solamente el apellido paterno en Father, solamente el apellido materno en Mother y Exact and Close Match porque pueden variar mucho las letras ej. Gonzalez/Gonsales. Eso me da resultados de los hermanos de una persona aparte de la persona que busco. Tambien me da resultados sin importar el pueblo. Para las busquedas de matrimonio pongo solo el apellido del los dos, Marriage en evento, y Jalisco, Mexico en Location. Eso no me ha servido igual con http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/
Name: Maria Agapita Juana Nepomucena Antonia Guerra Guerra
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Mar 1817
Baptism/Christening Place: UNION DE SAN ANTONIO,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name: Jose Santiago Guerra Gonsales
Mother's Name: Juana Gertrudis Guerra Gonsales
Maternal Grandfather's Name: Juan Antonio Guerra De San Roman
Maternal Grandmother's name: Maria De San Jose Gonzales Gutierrez
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60331-1
System Origin: Mexico-ODM
Source Film Number: 440508
Reference Number:
Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
Santiago Guerra y Juana Gertrudis Guerra m.19 May 1809 Union De San Antonio,Jalisco,Mexico
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
Jn. Antto. Guerra San Roman b. 21 Jan 1747
Hijo de Jn. Jph. Guerra y Andrea De Snroman. Y Serrano
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
Groom's Name: Juan Joseph Guerra
Bride's Name: Andrea De San Ramon Y Serrano Gallardo
Marriage Date: 26 Apr 1729
Marriage Place: Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
Bride's Father's Name: Joseph De San Ramon Y Serrano
Bride's Mother's Name: Josepha Gallardo
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60418-2
System Origin: Mexico-ODM
Source Film Number: 221513
Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
Armando
Parece que Juan Joseph Guerra es este pero falta pedir una copia del matrimonio antes mencionado para ver si sale los nombres de su padres.
Name: Juan Joseph Manuel Guerra Esquibel
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Apr 1705
Baptism/Christening Place: SANTA MARIA DE LOS LAGOS,LAGOS DE MORENO,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name: Diego Guerra Valades
Mother's Name: Maria De Esquibel Y Bargas
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60412-4
System Origin: Mexico-ODM
Source Film Number: 221406
Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
No encuentro el matrimonio de Diego Guerra Valades y Maria de Esquibel Y Bargas. Tampoco sus bautismos.
Matrimonio de Joseph De S Roman y Josepha Gallardo
Groom's Name: Joseph De S Roman
Bride's Name: Josepha Gallardo
Marriage Date: 31 May 1707
Marriage Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-4
System Origin: Mexico-ODM
Source Film Number: 279295
Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
Posible hermana de Andrea De San Ramon Y Serrano Gallardo
Name: Jua. Ma. Snromon. Gallardo
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Mar 1708
Baptism/Christening Place: NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name: Joseph De Snromon.
Mother's Name: Josepha Gallardo
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60320-2
System Origin: Mexico-ODM
Source Film Number: 279254
Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
Armando
Esto esta correcto sobre Juan Jose Manuel Guerra Valadez sus padres. Patty, Te estoy
haciendo un reporte no te procupes, ya encontre por que eran dispensados tus cuarto
bisabuelos y por que tantos eran primos varias veces y cercanos.
Le fecha de Diego Guerra Valadez y Maria Esquivel Vargas no se encuentra
pero en mis estudios encontre que son el Capt. Alonso Guerra
Valadez e Ines Rodriguez Gallardo.
Daniel
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> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: fandemma@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:35:49 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gonzalez Guerra ó Guerra Gonzalez en Lagos de Moreno
>
> Parece que Juan Joseph Guerra es este pero falta pedir una copia del matrimonio antes mencionado para ver si sale los nombres de su padres.
>
> Name: Juan Joseph Manuel Guerra Esquibel
> Gender: Male
> Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Apr 1705
> Baptism/Christening Place: SANTA MARIA DE LOS LAGOS,LAGOS DE MORENO,JALISCO,MEXICO
> Father's Name: Diego Guerra Valades
> Mother's Name: Maria De Esquibel Y Bargas
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60412-4
> System Origin: Mexico-ODM
> Source Film Number: 221406
> Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
>
> No encuentro el matrimonio de Diego Guerra Valades y Maria de Esquibel Y Bargas. Tampoco sus bautismos.
>
> Matrimonio de Joseph De S Roman y Josepha Gallardo
> Groom's Name: Joseph De S Roman
> Bride's Name: Josepha Gallardo
> Marriage Date: 31 May 1707
> Marriage Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-4
> System Origin: Mexico-ODM
> Source Film Number: 279295
> Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950
> http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
>
>
> Posible hermana de Andrea De San Ramon Y Serrano Gallardo
> Name: Jua. Ma. Snromon. Gallardo
> Gender: Female
> Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Mar 1708
> Baptism/Christening Place: NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
> Father's Name: Joseph De Snromon.
> Mother's Name: Josepha Gallardo
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60320-2
> System Origin: Mexico-ODM
> Source Film Number: 279254
> Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
> http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
>
>
> Armando
Diego Guerra Valadez se bautizo el 15 may 1664 en Lagos
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> From: fandemma@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:35:49 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gonzalez Guerra ó Guerra Gonzalez en Lagos de Moreno
>
> Parece que Juan Joseph Guerra es este pero falta pedir una copia del matrimonio antes mencionado para ver si sale los nombres de su padres.
>
> Name: Juan Joseph Manuel Guerra Esquibel
> Gender: Male
> Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Apr 1705
> Baptism/Christening Place: SANTA MARIA DE LOS LAGOS,LAGOS DE MORENO,JALISCO,MEXICO
> Father's Name: Diego Guerra Valades
> Mother's Name: Maria De Esquibel Y Bargas
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60412-4
> System Origin: Mexico-ODM
> Source Film Number: 221406
> Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
>
> No encuentro el matrimonio de Diego Guerra Valades y Maria de Esquibel Y Bargas. Tampoco sus bautismos.
>
> Matrimonio de Joseph De S Roman y Josepha Gallardo
> Groom's Name: Joseph De S Roman
> Bride's Name: Josepha Gallardo
> Marriage Date: 31 May 1707
> Marriage Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-4
> System Origin: Mexico-ODM
> Source Film Number: 279295
> Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950
> http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
>
>
> Posible hermana de Andrea De San Ramon Y Serrano Gallardo
> Name: Jua. Ma. Snromon. Gallardo
> Gender: Female
> Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Mar 1708
> Baptism/Christening Place: NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
> Father's Name: Joseph De Snromon.
> Mother's Name: Josepha Gallardo
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60320-2
> System Origin: Mexico-ODM
> Source Film Number: 279254
> Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
> http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
>
>
> Armando
Don Joseph de San Roman caso a Josepha Gallardo (tambien conocida como Josepha de Renteria)
el 31 de mayo de 1707 en Jalos. Hijo de los patriarcas de los San Roman y Serrano, Andres
de San Roman y Serrano, la madre era Magdalena Landeros de Portugal, estos casaron el 9 de
febrero de 1682 en Lagos de moreno. Los San Roman y Serrano por medio del lado materno
son desciendentes de los Carrillo de Sandi, FLores de la Torre, Temino/Trevino Velasco,
Garcia de Arrona, Los Gomez de Portugal, etc. La esposa de Joseph San Roman, Josepha de
Renteria era hija de Juan Antonio Gallardo y Juana Bernarda Reynoso Renteria. Esta
mencionada abajo, la Andrea de San Roman, si es hermana Andrea.
>
Daniel Mendez de Camino
> Posible hermana de Andrea De San Ramon Y Serrano Gallardo
> Name: Jua. Ma. Snromon. Gallardo
> Gender: Female
> Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Mar 1708
> Baptism/Christening Place: NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
> Father's Name: Joseph De Snromon.
> Mother's Name: Josepha Gallardo
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60320-2
> System Origin: Mexico-ODM
> Source Film Number: 279254
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Daniel
Son esos cambios de apellido que nos dificulta las investigaciones
genealógicas. Fijate que yo si habia visto esa información pero no sabia si
eran las mismas personas o no. ¿Tienes una página web con un árbol
genealógico que tiene toda esa información? Geneanet se ha hecho popular y
es gratis. Seria una gran ayuda a nosotros que subieras todo que tienes a
ese sitio.
Matrimonio Joseph de S, Roman
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
Groom's Name: Juan Antonio Gallardo
Bride's Name: Juana Bernarda De Reynoso
Marriage Date: 06 Jan 1682
Marriage Place: Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
Groom's Father's Name: Francisco Martin Gallardo
Groom's Mother's Name: Cathalina Manrriques
Bride's Father's Name: Francisco De Reynoso Y Padilla
Bride's Mother's Name: Josepha De Renteriia Y Baldes
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60418-1
System Origin: Mexico-ODM
Source Film Number: 221512
Reference Number:
Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
Saludos
2010/7/13 Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
>
> Don Joseph de San Roman caso a Josepha Gallardo (tambien conocida como
> Josepha de Renteria)
>
> el 31 de mayo de 1707 en Jalos. Hijo de los patriarcas de los San Roman y
> Serrano, Andres
>
> de San Roman y Serrano, la madre era Magdalena Landeros de Portugal, estos
> casaron el 9 de
>
> febrero de 1682 en Lagos de moreno. Los San Roman y Serrano por medio del
> lado materno
>
> son desciendentes de los Carrillo de Sandi, FLores de la Torre,
> Temino/Trevino Velasco,
>
> Garcia de Arrona, Los Gomez de Portugal, etc. La esposa de Joseph San
> Roman, Josepha de
>
> Renteria era hija de Juan Antonio Gallardo y Juana Bernarda Reynoso
> Renteria. Esta
>
> mencionada abajo, la Andrea de San Roman, si es hermana Andrea.
> >
>
>
>
> Daniel Mendez de Camino
>
>
> > Posible hermana de Andrea De San Ramon Y Serrano Gallardo
> > Name: Jua. Ma. Snromon. Gallardo
> > Gender: Female
> > Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Mar 1708
> > Baptism/Christening Place: NUESTRA SENORA DE LA
> ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
> > Father's Name: Joseph De Snromon.
> > Mother's Name: Josepha Gallardo
> > Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60320-2
> > System Origin: Mexico-ODM
> > Source Film Number: 279254
>
>
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Hola Armando, no es que no quiero subir lo al Nuestros Ranchos, es muy grande!
Lo he tratado y no hay suficiente espacio. Tengo una cuenta de rootsweb.com
ojala ahi lo puedes ver. Ya son tres generaciones en mi familia que colecta documentos
y cosas cualquier que partenezca a las familia altenas, sean de Aguascalientes, ZAc,
Guanajuato o tro lugar que los altenos poblaron. Yo todavia tengo un monton de cosas
que ver y lo ha hecho por 5 anos ya que se retiro de este pasatiempo
mi madre (Ampelia de Camino y Garcia de Leon) ahora es mi turno, y ni tocado la porcion
mas pequena en que tenemos. Tambien me gusta extractar los films de los espanoles
en los 1600s-1700s. Un proyecto que estoy llevando acabo es construir un base
que incluye de 1600s a los fines de 1800s en cada pueblo de Los Altos, Aguascalientes,
Guanajuato, y otros lugares que poblaron los altenos. Aver voy a subir mis archivos
al rootsweb y te doy el enlace.
Daniel
Digame sobre los apellidos cambian me rio cuando encuentro que es asi.
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> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:43:55 -0500
> From: fandemma@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> CC: joseph@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gonzalez Guerra ó Guerra Gonzalez en Lagos de Moreno
>
> Daniel
>
> Son esos cambios de apellido que nos dificulta las investigaciones
> genealógicas. Fijate que yo si habia visto esa información pero no sabia si
> eran las mismas personas o no. ¿Tienes una página web con un árbol
> genealógico que tiene toda esa información? Geneanet se ha hecho popular y
> es gratis. Seria una gran ayuda a nosotros que subieras todo que tienes a
> ese sitio.
>
> Matrimonio Joseph de S, Roman
> http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
>
> Groom's Name: Juan Antonio Gallardo
> Bride's Name: Juana Bernarda De Reynoso
> Marriage Date: 06 Jan 1682
> Marriage Place: Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico
> Groom's Father's Name: Francisco Martin Gallardo
> Groom's Mother's Name: Cathalina Manrriques
> Bride's Father's Name: Francisco De Reynoso Y Padilla
> Bride's Mother's Name: Josepha De Renteriia Y Baldes
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60418-1
> System Origin: Mexico-ODM
> Source Film Number: 221512
> Reference Number:
> Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950
> http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
>
>
> Saludos
>
>
> 2010/7/13 Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon >
>
> >
> > Don Joseph de San Roman caso a Josepha Gallardo (tambien conocida como
> > Josepha de Renteria)
> >
> > el 31 de mayo de 1707 en Jalos. Hijo de los patriarcas de los San Roman y
> > Serrano, Andres
> >
> > de San Roman y Serrano, la madre era Magdalena Landeros de Portugal, estos
> > casaron el 9 de
> >
> > febrero de 1682 en Lagos de moreno. Los San Roman y Serrano por medio del
> > lado materno
> >
> > son desciendentes de los Carrillo de Sandi, FLores de la Torre,
> > Temino/Trevino Velasco,
> >
> > Garcia de Arrona, Los Gomez de Portugal, etc. La esposa de Joseph San
> > Roman, Josepha de
> >
> > Renteria era hija de Juan Antonio Gallardo y Juana Bernarda Reynoso
> > Renteria. Esta
> >
> > mencionada abajo, la Andrea de San Roman, si es hermana Andrea.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Daniel Mendez de Camino
> >
> >
> > > Posible hermana de Andrea De San Ramon Y Serrano Gallardo
> > > Name: Jua. Ma. Snromon. Gallardo
> > > Gender: Female
> > > Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Mar 1708
> > > Baptism/Christening Place: NUESTRA SENORA DE LA
> > ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
> > > Father's Name: Joseph De Snromon.
> > > Mother's Name: Josepha Gallardo
> > > Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60320-2
> > > System Origin: Mexico-ODM
> > > Source Film Number: 279254
> >
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Tengo una inquietud en cuanto al genearca del apellido "Romo de Vivar", Diego, esposo de María Rangel...
Es posible que localizo algo de Lagos de Moreno, ya que Diego Romo de Vivar
era un fundador de Lagos de Moreno. Tambien se debe reconocer que el
apellido compuesto ROMO DE VIVAR es muy limitado el Vivar es mas comun,
pero ROMO es que esta limitado a solo una rama. Voy a buscar en PARES
pero si se sabia que ya era de Rielves en los Reynos de Toledo. Aver que encuentro.
Daniel
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: migueltran@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 14:35:13 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Diego Romo de Vivar
>
> Tengo una inquietud en cuanto al genearca del apellido "Romo de Vivar", Diego, esposo de María Rangel...
>
> Creo que todos tomamos como un hecho que se trata del mismo Diego el esposo de Maria Rangel y el Diego Romo del que Mariano Gonzalez-Leal localizo partida de bautismo en Rielves, Toledo, España, de fecha 12 de marzo de 1589, hijo de Diego Romo y Catalina Perez.
> Desconozco si existe algun documento que pruebe que es la misma persona. Me gustarìa saber si existe prueba de ello.
> ¿Alguien del grupo conoce en que se basó un genealogista tan serio y reconocido como lo es don Mariano para hacer dicha afirmación?
Does anyone know the patriarchs or early information
of these families mentioned above? I have Juan Asencio Ponce
de Leon as the earliest 1600, and have the three Isabel Alvarez
I have ascencio de leon which I believe is asencio ponce de leon
------Original Message------
From: Daniel Mendez del Camino
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To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Navarro Gaytan,Alvarez del Castillo and Asencio de Leon
Sent: Jul 8, 2010 2:00 PM
Does anyone know the patriarchs or early information
of these families mentioned above? I have Juan Asencio Ponce
de Leon as the earliest 1600, and have the three Isabel Alvarez
del Castillo each namesakes, 1550, 1575, 1600 and a Juan Alvarez
del Castillo 1600. Not sure how theyre related to this Juan?
And im so confused about the Navarro Gaytan family in the 1500s-1600s.
Thanks,
Daniel
COuld you send some info you have on this line? Thanks Rick.
Daniel
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> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> From: mygenes2000@yahoo.com
> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 22:38:00 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Navarro Gaytan, Alvarez del Castillo and Asencio de Leon
>
> I have ascencio de leon which I believe is asencio ponce de leon
> ------Original Message------
> From: Daniel Mendez del Camino
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> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> ReplyTo: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Navarro Gaytan,Alvarez del Castillo and Asencio de Leon
> Sent: Jul 8, 2010 2:00 PM
>
> Does anyone know the patriarchs or early information
> of these families mentioned above? I have Juan Asencio Ponce
> de Leon as the earliest 1600, and have the three Isabel Alvarez
> del Castillo each namesakes, 1550, 1575, 1600 and a Juan Alvarez
> del Castillo 1600. Not sure how theyre related to this Juan?
> And im so confused about the Navarro Gaytan family in the 1500s-1600s.
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
Hola a todos oigan les platico que descubrí el hilo negro...jajaja.. resulta que yo no no sabia que en el pilot de familysearch pones búsqueda y en el lugar....siempre ponía "Jose Olvera" esposo de Lauriana Catalina Maria por ejemplo.. en hidalgo,Mexico, y veía 4000 registros de todos los Olvera de Hidalgo... pues ahora en sitio lo puse específico... Tepeji del Rio, Hidalgo, Mexico.. y sorpresa.. me aparecieron todos los "Olvera" de ese lugar.. se reduce la busqueda al minimo.. claro que se cambiaban seguido de parroquia o de pueblo, pero intenté sin apellidos..Catalina Maria y me aparecieron un chorro.. entonces encontre coincidencias que no imaginaba que Jose era Bernabé Roberto Mariano... que en varios hijos aparece la madre y el apelliido pero otro nombre de pila.. encontré segundos apellidos entre los registros de hermanos e hijos que no conocía.. que Roberto era en realidad Norberto.. que aveces la gente que lo copia pone lo que entiende y entre la buena voluntaddel que paleografea el documento y la mala voluntad del que lo escribe ( pues a veces les daba igual si lo escribian mal o incorrecto...jajaja) así que avancé 2 generaciones y conseguí como 15 hermanos hijos y tios!!! también note que poner Tepeji, Hidalgo y Tepeji del Rio Hidalgo arroja diferentes resultados asi como Michoacan y Michoacan de Ocampo, luego en los mismos lugares .. en Enriquez, lo vi Anriques Enriqus, etc... y en todos los casos encontré cosas...luego cuando tienes un brick wall a veces te quedas en la fecha de matrimonio en otro pueblo.. tal vez se casaban en el pueblo de la novia (o) no está demás buscar en los diferentes pueblos donde van bautizando a los hijos..bueno tal vez ustedes ya lo sabían pero yo no... hasta le puse Bernabe casado con Lauriana en el mismo pueblo y me arrojó resutados insospechados.. (agradecería si me mandan el traductor porque mi english no es muy bueno.. saludos!!
_________________________________________________________________
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www.vivirmessenger.com
Si a alguno de ustedes le interesa comprar este libro, que contiene todos los registros sacramentales de la villa de Lagos hasta el año en que cumple una centuria de fundada, ademas de importantes an
Hola Miguel,
Estoy muy interesado en obtener una copia del libro mencionado. Como vivo
en los EE.UU. te agradecería cualquier ayuda para conseguirlo. Muchas
gracias de antemano.
Saludos
BILL FIGUEROA
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Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 12:36 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Libro "Bautismos,matrimonios y defunciones en el
primer siglo de Santa Maria de LosLagos"- Mario Gomez
Si a alguno de ustedes le interesa comprar este libro, que contiene todos
los registros sacramentales de la villa de Lagos hasta el año en que cumple
una centuria de fundada, ademas de importantes anotaciones, se los puedo
conseguir;contactenme.
Im interested! THanks,
Un Saludo,
Daniel Mendez
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please visit www.mormon.org
> To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: migueltran@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 10:36:55 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Libro "Bautismos, matrimonios y defunciones en el primer siglo de Santa Maria de Los Lagos"- Mario Gomez
>
> Si a alguno de ustedes le interesa comprar este libro, que contiene todos los registros sacramentales de la villa de Lagos hasta el año en que cumple una centuria de fundada, ademas de importantes anotaciones, se los puedo conseguir;contactenme.
> _______________________________________________________________________
>
> If any of you are interested in this book, which contains all the sacramental records of the town of Lagos until it reaches a century after its foundation, in addition to important notes, I can get. contact me
Libreria de la Casa de la Cultura
Miguel Beltran
En cuanto sale el libro? No sabe donde puede estar en venta en Lagos de Moreno? Voy a vistar a Lagos durante mi vaciones en Agosto.
Sergio Gutierrez
Miembros de Nuestros Ranchos,
Sergio,
The best bookstore in Guadalajara that I have found is Libreria Cervantes.
The proprietor, Alberto Cervantes García, is very knowledgeable and helpful
in finding the type of books we are interested in. He sells both new and
used books and the bookstore is centrally located. I visited 5 or 6 other
bookstores, including the University (UDG) bookstore, and found Librería
Cervantes had one of the books I had been looking for--an out of print book
published in 1972. The address and phone number are: Av. Juarez No. 582-A,
Guadalajara, Jal. Tel. 36-13-99-12
Librería Porrúa (which is like the Borders Bookstore of México) has several
branches in Guadalajara. Here is the link that lists all the branches in
Guadalajara: http://porrua.com/tienda_sucursales.asp?Edo=14.
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La mejor libreria que yo he encontrado en Guadalajara es la Librería
Cervantes. El propietario, Alberto Cervantes García, me ayudó bastante para
encontrar la clase de libros que yo buscaba. Vende libros nuevos y usados y
su librería esta ubicada centralmente. Visité 5 o 6 otras librerias,
inclusive la de la Universidad (UDG), y fué en la Librería Cervantes que
encontré el libro que yo buscaba--un libro ya agotado que fué públicado en
1972. El domicilio y teléfono son: Av. Juarez No. 582-A, Guadalajara, Jal.
Tel. 36-13-99-12
La Librería Porrúa (que es como el Borders bookstore de México) tiene varias
sucursales en Guadalajara. Aquí esta el vínculo que muestra todas las
sucursales de Guadalajara: http://porrua.com/tienda_sucursales.asp?Edo=14.
Maria Cortez
Sacramento, CA
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Librerias en Guadalajara/ Bookstores in
> Guadalajara
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> Miembros de Nuestros Ranchos,
>
> Voy estar en Guadalajara en Agosto y quisiera saber cuales son algunas
> librerias donde podre encontrar buenos libros sobre historia Mexicana y
> genealogia. Busco por libros nuevos o tambien usudados.
>
> Gracias
>
> Sergio
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Nuestros Ranchos' Members,
>
> I will be in Guadalajara during August and would like to know which
> bookstores have books on Mexican history and books on genealogy. Looking for
> new or used/out of print books.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sergio
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
Sergio:
Las librerias del Fondo de Cultura Economica son muy buenas, especialmente para libros de historia, sociologia, etc. La sucursal de Guadalajara queda en:
Av. Chapultepec Sur 198, Col. Americana, C.P. 44310, Guadalajara, Jalisco.
Teléfono(s): (0133) 36 15 12 14 con 7 líneas
Horario: Lunes a sábado de 9:00 a 21:00 hrs.
Contacto: Enedina Reyes Benicio, Ma. del Carmen Arreaga.
http://www.libreriasdelfondo.com/LF_LibreriasFondo2.asp
Hay una cadena de librerias muy buena en Mexico llamada Librerias Gandhi...
http://www.gandhi.com.mx/index.cfm/id/Categoria/source/libros/cid/1208
Creo que el Colegio de Jalisco, que publica muchos libros sobre el tema tambien tiene una libreria que valdria la pena, pero no puedo encontrar la informacion sobre su ubicacion.
Están la librerias de la Secretaria de Cultura de Jalisco
Buscalas en WWW.JALISCO.GOB.MX
Inicio > Gobierno > Dependencias > Secretaría de Cultura > Servicios Especializados > Librerías de Secretaría de Cultura >
Miguel Beltran
Maria Ignacia Alonzo was the mother of Andres Alonzo; his father is not named in the documents I've found.
She probably is....would not be suprised. But we need to verify through
documentation..it looks like this is a "natural" line or illigitmate where the
father is not listed. The only way now is just to look for other documents
such as the death record.
Daniel
To learn more about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
please visit www.mormon.org
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: gpf13@aol.com
> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 10:15:42 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Maria Ignacia Alonzo
>
> Maria Ignacia Alonzo was the mother of Andres Alonzo; his father is not named in the documents I've found. Andres married Maria Josefa Teresa de Jesus Sandoval, 8 Jan 1810 (Aguascalientes), and according to the marriage records (marriage certificate and matrimonial investigation) was born about 1789, in Aguascalientes. The matrimonial investigation names only his mother and not his father.
>
> I have not been able to find a baptismal record for Andres.
>
> There is a baptismal record for a Maria Ignacia Alonzo, 23 May 1768, Aguascalientes. Which suggests she could be the mother of Andres, but this is only circumstantial.
>
> I have not found a death or burial record for Maria Ignacia, but she died prior to Andres's marriage in 1810.
>
> Does anyone have information that proves the link, or provides other evidence that Maria Ignacia, baptized in 1768, may be Andres's mother?
>
> George Fulton
>
>
>
>
>
>
I found documentation proving the Santa Cruz familiy and Santa Cruz y Orozco families are one in the same a some switched the names around like
Hi, my name is Roberto Santa Cruz. But my grand grand father was born in Aguascalientes, near San Juan de los Lagos. He married with María Rodríguez and had the following sons: Florencio, Rafael, Esteban and Josefina. My grand father was Esteban. He was born in 1907 in Aguascalientes, but the familiy have rooths probably in Perú or Spain.
Thanks
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: mendezdelcamino@live.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 11:33:00 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] The Santa Cruz y Orozco family
>
> I found documentation proving the Santa Cruz familiy and Santa Cruz y Orozco families are one in the same a some switched the names around like
> de ORozco y Santa Cruz. A branch eventually made it to San Juan de los LAgos
> and Jalostotitlan.
>
> Daniel
I am researching the above referenced family. They are my maternal (PENA) 3rd GG's. Joseph Andres was born 30 Nov 1771 in Estanzuela, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, MX.
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> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 19:55:27 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph Andres ALONZO = Maria Rafaela ROMO
>
> I am researching the above referenced family. They are my maternal (PENA) 3rd GG's. Joseph Andres was born 30 Nov 1771 in Estanzuela, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, MX. They were married 10 Feb 1802 in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, MX. I have discovered six children:
>
> l. Joseph Prudencio, Bap. 21 Nov 1802 Encarnacion de Diaz
> 2. Maria de la Ascencion = Pablo Gonzales, Bap.(Maria) 28 May 1805 Encarnacion 3. Juan Jose, Bap. 28 Jun 1807 Estanzuela, Aguascalientes
> 4. Jose Ynes, 03 May 1815 Encarnacion de Diaz
> 5. Similiano Alonzo, 13 Jan 1818 Encarnacion de Diaz
> 6. Jose Quirino = Petra de la Paz Bap. (Jose Q.) 11 Jan 1823 Encarnacion de Diaz
>
> Any sharing of infomation regarding this Familia would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> Paul Gomez
> Rancho Cucamonga, CA
de http://pilot.familysearch.org/
Name: Jose Quirino Alonso Romo
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Jan 1823
Baptism/Christening Place: La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Andres Alonso
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Maria Rafaela Romo
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Paternal Grandfather's Name: Ysidro Alonso
Paternal Grandmother's Name: Anica De Mata
Maternal Grandfather's Name: Rafael Romo
Maternal Grandmother's name: Maria De La Luz Alonso
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60269-7
System Origin: Mexico-EASy
Source Film Number: 1155174
Reference Number:
Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
Name: Joseph Prudensio Alonso
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 21 Nov 1802
Baptism/Christening Place: La Encarnación, Encarnación de Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Estansuela
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Andres Alonso
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Rafela Romo
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Paternal Grandfather's Name: Ysidro Alonso
Paternal Grandmother's Name: Ana De Matha
Maternal Grandfather's Name: Rafel Romo
Maternal Grandmother's name: Lus Alonso
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02674-3
System Origin: Mexico-EASy
Source Film Number: 1155173
Reference Number: v 3 p 16
Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
Name: Jose Ynes Alonzo Romo
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 03 May 1815
Baptism/Christening Place: La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Andre Alonzo
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Rafaela Romo
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Paternal Grandfather's Name: Ysidro Alonzo
Paternal Grandmother's Name: Ana De Mata
Maternal Grandfather's Name: Rafael Romo
Maternal Grandmother's name: Luz Alonzo
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60269-7
System Origin: Mexico-EASy
Source Film Number: 1155174
Reference Number:
Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
The person who extrcted this from the film made a sad mistake Anica de Mata
instead of Ana Maria de Mata, we al make mistakes. Anica is very off.
Daniel
To learn more about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
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> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: migueltran@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 08:15:22 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph Andres ALONZO = Maria
>
> de http://pilot.familysearch.org/
>
>
> Name: Jose Quirino Alonso Romo
> Gender: Male
> Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Jan 1823
> Baptism/Christening Place: La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
> Birth Date:
> Birthplace:
> Death Date:
> Name Note:
> Race:
> Father's Name: Andres Alonso
> Father's Birthplace:
> Father's Age:
> Mother's Name: Maria Rafaela Romo
> Mother's Birthplace:
> Mother's Age:
> Paternal Grandfather's Name: Ysidro Alonso
> Paternal Grandmother's Name: Anica De Mata
> Maternal Grandfather's Name: Rafael Romo
> Maternal Grandmother's name: Maria De La Luz Alonso
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60269-7
> System Origin: Mexico-EASy
> Source Film Number: 1155174
> Reference Number:
> Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
>
>
>
The Sacramental Record that I have supports your statement. By the way same
document reads that Alonzo's father was "Diego Alonzo de los Ynofos". Is
this interchangeable with "Hinojos"? The record also includes the
information that the "Padrinos" were "Santiago Alonzo y Maria Thereza de
Alonso". Were they related to one another, and/or to "Ysidro Alonzo"?
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[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
Mendez de Camino
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:03 AM
To: Patty Hoyos
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph Andres ALONZO = Maria
The person who extrcted this from the film made a sad mistake Anica de Mata
instead of Ana Maria de Mata, we al make mistakes. Anica is very off.
Daniel
To learn more about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
please visit www.mormon.org
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: migueltran@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 08:15:22 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph Andres ALONZO = Maria
>
> de http://pilot.familysearch.org/
>
>
> Name: Jose Quirino Alonso Romo
> Gender: Male
> Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Jan 1823
> Baptism/Christening Place: La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco,
Mexico
> Birth Date:
> Birthplace:
> Death Date:
> Name Note:
> Race:
> Father's Name: Andres Alonso
> Father's Birthplace:
> Father's Age:
> Mother's Name: Maria Rafaela Romo
> Mother's Birthplace:
> Mother's Age:
> Paternal Grandfather's Name: Ysidro Alonso
> Paternal Grandmother's Name: Anica De Mata
> Maternal Grandfather's Name: Rafael Romo
> Maternal Grandmother's name: Maria De La Luz Alonso
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60269-7
> System Origin: Mexico-EASy
> Source Film Number: 1155174
> Reference Number:
> Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
>
>
>
I should have stated the "Sacramental Marriage Record".
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[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Paul J
Gomez
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 11:03 AM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph Andres ALONZO = Maria
The Sacramental Record that I have supports your statement. By the way same
document reads that Alonzo's father was "Diego Alonzo de los Ynofos". Is
this interchangeable with "Hinojos"? The record also includes the
information that the "Padrinos" were "Santiago Alonzo y Maria Thereza de
Alonso". Were they related to one another, and/or to "Ysidro Alonzo"?
-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
Mendez de Camino
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:03 AM
To: Patty Hoyos
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph Andres ALONZO = Maria
The person who extrcted this from the film made a sad mistake Anica de Mata
instead of Ana Maria de Mata, we al make mistakes. Anica is very off.
Daniel
To learn more about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
please visit www.mormon.org
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: migueltran@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 08:15:22 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph Andres ALONZO = Maria
>
> de http://pilot.familysearch.org/
>
>
> Name: Jose Quirino Alonso Romo
> Gender: Male
> Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Jan 1823
> Baptism/Christening Place: La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco,
Mexico
> Birth Date:
> Birthplace:
> Death Date:
> Name Note:
> Race:
> Father's Name: Andres Alonso
> Father's Birthplace:
> Father's Age:
> Mother's Name: Maria Rafaela Romo
> Mother's Birthplace:
> Mother's Age:
> Paternal Grandfather's Name: Ysidro Alonso
> Paternal Grandmother's Name: Anica De Mata
> Maternal Grandfather's Name: Rafael Romo
> Maternal Grandmother's name: Maria De La Luz Alonso
> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60269-7
> System Origin: Mexico-EASy
> Source Film Number: 1155174
> Reference Number:
> Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
>
>
>
Okay this is good! Well the REAL original name is ALONSO DE LOS HINOJOS,
youll see ALONZO DE LOS HINOXOS, INOJOS, ENOJOS, just dont pay
attention to those know its HINOJOS, but when searching dont limit your search
with HINOJOS, try the other "mistakes" and youll be suprised. They come
from a village in I think Extremadura, Spain called Los Hinojos. SO who ever
was the first patriarch back in the 1400s or so was an Alonso DE Los Hinojos.
Alonso is also a first name his children would have taken the last name
Alonso de los Hinojos until the 1600s where we show up with Pedro
Alonso de los Hinojos, its called Patronimics son takes fathers name so on.
Daniel
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> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 11:02:49 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph Andres ALONZO = Maria
>
> The Sacramental Record that I have supports your statement. By the way same
> document reads that Alonzo's father was "Diego Alonzo de los Ynofos". Is
> this interchangeable with "Hinojos"? The record also includes the
> information that the "Padrinos" were "Santiago Alonzo y Maria Thereza de
> Alonso". Were they related to one another, and/or to "Ysidro Alonzo"?
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Mendez de Camino
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:03 AM
> To: Patty Hoyos
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph Andres ALONZO = Maria
>
>
> The person who extrcted this from the film made a sad mistake Anica de Mata
>
> instead of Ana Maria de Mata, we al make mistakes. Anica is very off.
>
>
>
> Daniel
>
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> please visit www.mormon.org
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> > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > From: migueltran@gmail.com
> > Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 08:15:22 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph Andres ALONZO = Maria
> >
> > de http://pilot.familysearch.org/
> >
> >
> > Name: Jose Quirino Alonso Romo
> > Gender: Male
> > Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Jan 1823
> > Baptism/Christening Place: La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco,
> Mexico
> > Birth Date:
> > Birthplace:
> > Death Date:
> > Name Note:
> > Race:
> > Father's Name: Andres Alonso
> > Father's Birthplace:
> > Father's Age:
> > Mother's Name: Maria Rafaela Romo
> > Mother's Birthplace:
> > Mother's Age:
> > Paternal Grandfather's Name: Ysidro Alonso
> > Paternal Grandmother's Name: Anica De Mata
> > Maternal Grandfather's Name: Rafael Romo
> > Maternal Grandmother's name: Maria De La Luz Alonso
> > Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60269-7
> > System Origin: Mexico-EASy
> > Source Film Number: 1155174
> > Reference Number:
> > Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
> >
> >
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Oh Maria Teresa was Isidro's sister she was baptized 11 Nov 1736
not sure about Santiago, could be a sibling or even her spouse.
There were dozens and dozens of Alonso de los Hinojos marrying their
close cousins Alonso de los HInojs, just like your case with Jose Andres
and Rafaela whose mother was also a ALonso.
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> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 11:02:49 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph Andres ALONZO = Maria
>
> The Sacramental Record that I have supports your statement. By the way same
> document reads that Alonzo's father was "Diego Alonzo de los Ynofos". Is
> this interchangeable with "Hinojos"? The record also includes the
> information that the "Padrinos" were "Santiago Alonzo y Maria Thereza de
> Alonso". Were they related to one another, and/or to "Ysidro Alonzo"?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Mendez de Camino
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:03 AM
> To: Patty Hoyos
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph Andres ALONZO = Maria
>
>
> The person who extrcted this from the film made a sad mistake Anica de Mata
>
> instead of Ana Maria de Mata, we al make mistakes. Anica is very off.
>
>
>
> Daniel
>
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>
> please visit www.mormon.org
>
>
>
>
> > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > From: migueltran@gmail.com
> > Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 08:15:22 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph Andres ALONZO = Maria
> >
> > de http://pilot.familysearch.org/
> >
> >
> > Name: Jose Quirino Alonso Romo
> > Gender: Male
> > Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Jan 1823
> > Baptism/Christening Place: La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco,
> Mexico
> > Birth Date:
> > Birthplace:
> > Death Date:
> > Name Note:
> > Race:
> > Father's Name: Andres Alonso
> > Father's Birthplace:
> > Father's Age:
> > Mother's Name: Maria Rafaela Romo
> > Mother's Birthplace:
> > Mother's Age:
> > Paternal Grandfather's Name: Ysidro Alonso
> > Paternal Grandmother's Name: Anica De Mata
> > Maternal Grandfather's Name: Rafael Romo
> > Maternal Grandmother's name: Maria De La Luz Alonso
> > Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60269-7
> > System Origin: Mexico-EASy
> > Source Film Number: 1155174
> > Reference Number:
> > Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
> >
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There should be some pretty cool información matrimonial to show how the
couples are related.
Saludos desde Lago Salado
Eduardo H Seoane
I am seeking to place Crecensio Serna in my Database.
Also Ramon Esqueda
Descendants of Crecensio Serna
Generation No. 1
1. >>>> CRECENSIO SERNA <<<< He married SIMONA NIEVES.
Mooskies,
What's the time period?
Alicia,
San Jose, Ca
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Calvillo, Ags; Ancestors for Cresencio Serna & Simona Nieves / Ramon Esqueda & Marguerita Martinez
I am seeking to place Crecensio Serna in my Database. Also Ramon Esqueda
Descendants of Crecensio Serna
Generation No. 1
1. >>>> CRECENSIO SERNA >>RAMON ESQUEDA -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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Hello everyone,
Below is a transcription and translation of your document. I'm not sure
about the names Rufa and Urcina; the other names are easy to read. Rufa is
probably short for Rufina, a common name, but I never heard the name Urcina.
I don't think it says Reina.
Bautismos de Jalpa en tiempo que no había padre.
En la parroquia de esta Villa en Once de Julio de mil ochocientos sesenta y
cuatro. Yo el Presbítero D. Vicente Y. Gonzalez, Cura encargado de esta
feligresía, Bautise Solemnemente a José Ma. de cuatro dias, nacido en la
Villita, hijo legítimo de Lucas González y Rufa Durán. (Abuelos) Paternos
Jose María Gonzalez, y Julia Casillas. (Abuelos) Maternos Teodoro Durán y
Urcina (?) Figueroa. Padrinos Claro Gonzalez, y Apolonia Durán; a quienes
adventí su obligación y parentesco espiritual, y lo firmé.
Baptisms from Jalpa during a time when there wasn't a priest.
In the parochial church of this town on 11 July 1864. I, Vicente Y.
Gonzalez, Priest in charge of this Parish, solemny baptised Jose María, born
four days ago in La Villita, legitimate son of Lucas González and Rufa (?)
Durán. Paternal grandparents: Jose María González, and Julia Casillas.
Maternal grandparents: Teodoro Durán and Urcina (?) Figueroa. Godparents:
Claro González and Apolonia Durán, all of whom I advised of their obligation
and spiritual cognation, and signed it.
Saludos,
Bill Figueroa
I would say that the names are Claro and Urcina.
Here's what I see:
En la Parroquia de esta Villa en Once de Julio de mil ochocien-tos sesenta y cuatro
Yo el Presto D. Vicente Y. Gonzalez, cura encargo de esta feliga Bautise solemnemte a Jose Ma de cuatro dias nacido en la Villita, hijo lego de Lucas Gonzalez y Rufa Duran, paternos Jose Ma Gonzalez y Julia Ca-sillas maternos Teodoro Duran y Urcina Figueroa padrinos Claro Gonzalez y Apolonia Duran a quienes adverti__ obligacion parentesco espiritual y lo firme.
I hope this helps.
Rosalinda
The Mexican section of Labs has been updated, now it includes the church records
of Hidalgo, Tamaulipas, and thank good ness some years are fixed for Aguascalientes,
what about Ojuelos Jalisco? I thought this was one we were going to fight for?
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Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 12:54 PM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Family Search Labs Updated
The Mexican section of Labs has been updated, now it includes the church records
of Hidalgo, Tamaulipas, and thank good ness some years are fixed for Aguascalientes,
also the entire registro Civil for Aguascalientes is also added! and the MExican Census of
1930 is at 62%.
Daniel
I know Im happy for the registro civil of Aguascalientes :)
I am having trouble finding my husbands ancestors. There are so many Romos in Encarnacion it gets confusing. So far I have his Grandfather Jesus Romo born 1873 in Encarnacion.
Acerca de Pablo Romo, (padre de Manuela Romo Perez, esposo de Paula Perez, suegro de Salvador Romo):
Bautizado 20 enero 1828 en la Chona, hijo de Ignacio Romo Aranda y su esposa Ana Maria Senobia Martin del Campo y Perez; abuelos paternos de Joseph Salvador Romo de Vivar y Gallardo, y de Maria del Carmen Aranda y Moreno; abuelos maternos: Ignacio Martin del Campo y Antonia Perez, Bisabuelos paterno paterno:Cristobal Justo Romo de Vivar y Lomelin y Nicolasa de los Santos Gallardo y Sanchez de Porras;bisabuelos paterno materno: Joseph de Aranda y Luisa Moreno Guerra.
Miguel Beltran
Sabes los padres de Joseph de Aranda? quien caso a Luisa Bernarda Moreno de Ortega, Guerra Valadez.
Daniel
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> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: migueltran@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:47:31 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Romo´s de la Chona
>
> Acerca de Pablo Romo, (padre de Manuela Romo Perez, esposo de Paula Perez, suegro de Salvador Romo):
>
> Bautizado 20 enero 1828 en la Chona, hijo de Ignacio Romo Aranda y su esposa Ana Maria Senobia Martin del Campo y Perez; abuelos paternos de Joseph Salvador Romo de Vivar y Gallardo, y de Maria del Carmen Aranda y Moreno; abuelos maternos: Ignacio Martin del Campo y Antonia Perez, Bisabuelos paterno paterno:Cristobal Justo Romo de Vivar y Lomelin y Nicolasa de los Santos Gallardo y Sanchez de Porras;bisabuelos paterno materno: Joseph de Aranda y Luisa Moreno Guerra.
>
>
> Miguel Beltran
Tienes mas informacion sobre IGnacio Martin del Campo yAntonia PErez padres de Ana Maria Senobia Martin del Campo.
Gracias,Daniel
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> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: migueltran@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:47:31 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Romo´s de la Chona
>
> Acerca de Pablo Romo, (padre de Manuela Romo Perez, esposo de Paula Perez, suegro de Salvador Romo):
>
> Bautizado 20 enero 1828 en la Chona, hijo de Ignacio Romo Aranda y su esposa Ana Maria Senobia Martin del Campo y Perez; abuelos paternos de Joseph Salvador Romo de Vivar y Gallardo, y de Maria del Carmen Aranda y Moreno; abuelos maternos: Ignacio Martin del Campo y Antonia Perez, Bisabuelos paterno paterno:Cristobal Justo Romo de Vivar y Lomelin y Nicolasa de los Santos Gallardo y Sanchez de Porras;bisabuelos paterno materno: Joseph de Aranda y Luisa Moreno Guerra.
>
>
> Miguel Beltran
Hello,
I am trying to find my father's family lines. I have been searching for months but can't find anything.
my grandfather is:
Eduardo Gamez
Image is not available on-line
Search Collection
About this Collection
Name
Jose Maria Belen Games Tobon
Gender
Male
Christening date
28 Jan 1869
Christening place
TEPANCO DE LOPEZ, PUEBLA, MEXICO
Father name
Dolores Games
Mother name
Mara Quirina Tobon
Batch number
C61562-7
Record group
Mexico-VR
Film number
641129
Reference number
2:24SX7T2
Image is not available on-line
Search Collection
About this Collection
Name
Maria Pascuala Virginia Games Tobon
Gender
Female
Christening date
19 May 1871
Christening place
TEPANCO DE LOPEZ, PUEBLA, MEXICO
Father name
Dolores Games
Mother name
Quirina Tobon
Batch number
C61562-7
Record group
Mexico-VR
Film number
641129
Reference number
2:24SXR0M
Image is not available on-line
Search Collection
About this Collection
Name
Juan Gamez Tobón
Gender
Male
Christening date
27 Dec 1879
Christening place
San Juan Bautista, Ixcaquixtla, Puebla, Mexico
Birth place
San Juan, Ixcaquixtla, Puebla, Mexico
Father name
Dolores Gamez De Tobón
Mother name
Quirina Tobón De Gamez
Batch number
C04773-3
Record group
Mexico-EASy
Film number
704624
Reference number
157
Image is not available on-line
Search Collection
About this Collection
Name
Jose Abraham Patricio De La Santisima Trinidad Gamez Tobon
Gender
Male
Christening date
17 Mar 1880
Christening place
San Juan Bautista, Ixcaquixtla, Puebla, Mexico
Birth date
16 Mar 1880
Birth place
San Juan, Ixcaquixtla, Puebla, Mexico
Father name
Dolores_ Gamez
Mother name
Maria Quirina Tobon
Batch number
C03873-1
Record group
Mexico-EASy
Film number
704624
Reference number
2:GSXJ1D
hola.. Lety R
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: joolia17@yahoo.com
> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:48:15 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gamez-Tobon & Martinez-Trejo
>
> Hello,
> I am trying to find my father's family lines. I have been searching for months but can't find anything.
>
> my grandfather is:
> Eduardo Gamez
> born 1927 in (we think) mexico D.F. but we aren't completely sure. My parents had someone helping them with the geneology back in 2005 who submitted an GEDCOM file into familysearch.org but this info was never verified so we don't know that it is 100% correct.
>
> his father was:
> Manuel Gamez Tobon
> born approx 1900 my dad said he thinks he is from Tehuacan, Puebla, Mexico NOT Mexico D.F.
>
> his mother was:
> Guadalupe Garcia
> born approx 1902 but they do not know if she is from Tehuacan or D.F.
>
> My granmother is:
> Clemensia Martinez
> I found her in the 1930 census in Guanajuato, Jerecuaro, Chahuita and on the census it says they are from Guanajuato.
>
> Her parents are listed as:
> Ladislado Martinez born approx 1873.
> Tomasa Trejo born approx 1886.
>
> If anyone could help me I would really appreciate it.
>
> Thank you
> Julia Gamez Friend
Hi All, couple of changes happened, on the catalog for Family Search, the church records for
the City of Aguascalientes are known as la parroquia de Asuncion de Maria instead of the more
Any word when Jalisco will be available.
Sergio Gutierrez
I have not heard anything either.
Maria Cortes (HRIS Administrator)
Trinity Industries
Maria.Cortes@trin.net
Phone 214-589-8036
Fax 214-589-8810
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Any word when Jalisco will be available.
Sergio Gutierrez
Need Help With The Rivera