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Dear Family and Friends:

Hope you all enjoyed some Hispanic Heritage Month activities in September; we still have two weeks in October to complete our month. It is nice to identify a time period to ask for recognition of our heritage. Our population keeps increasing in size and public awareness is good for all.

You'll enjoy a map showing the distribution of Latinos in the United States. Viewing the map made an impact on me.

It turns out that half of all Hispanics/Latinos in the United States live in California and Arizona, neither of which state has ever had a Latino United States Senator in Congress.

You'll find quite a few articles on immigrants and government amnesties.

You'll enjoy a special article on the Summer Olympics by Mercy Bautista Olvera on Hispanics who won an Olympic Medal, not only United States winners, but Hispanics from Spanish speaking countries, Mexico, Puerto Rico Cuba, Argentina, Colombia, Venezuela, Spain.

A surprise support for Rancho del Sueno came from a song, Soldier's Song, sung by David Meza. Do listen to it. It is very touching:
https://youtu.be/XR2EV4B7BLo. The composer, Mel Harker will send a CD copy to anyone that donates to Rancho del Sueno, the herd of horses whose DNA ancestry goes back to the earliest horses brought into the Americas by our Spanish ancestors. Mr. Harker action is in strong support of Resurrecting Lives whose mission is to help returning Veterans deal with the traumatic effects of war, a focus of concern and involvement in which Rancho del Sueno has also been involved.

Thank you Mel, who can be reached at 1 562 477 8575.
audio2visual@gmail.com

The California drought has greatly increased the burden of caring for the herd.
So a very special thank you to Steve and Jane Shanahan, who applied, requested and received a large grant from the Nebraska Lincoln Community
Foundation for Rancho del Sueno. Thank you to the Shanahans and
Lincoln Community Foundation.

God bless America, Mimi
www.SomosPrimos.com

TABLE OF CONTENTS

UNITED STATES
Two different counter-terrorism measures amendments unanimously approved authored by
U.S. Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) Latino Representation in the US Senate non-existent for Californians, historically unfair.
New Survey Today: U.S. Latino Population Growth Dramatization of 1849 Debates which resulted in the Bilingual Document for the 1849 California Constitution
2016 Hispanic-Owned Businesses in the U.S. and Educational Attainment The first Wal-Mart store opened in 1962 Mexican-American civil-rights conference meets in Laredo, September 14th, 1911 Recollections of the 48th Anniversary of the 1968 U.S. Commission on Civil Rights Hearing Civil Rights--How Far We Have Come!
The Lost Mexicans of t he Bastanchury Ranch , the Deported by Gustavo Arellano AB 146: New California Law Urges Schools to Include a Lesson on Mexican “Repatriation”
Congress tried to fix immigration back in 1986. Why did it fail? by Brad Plumer
1986 IRCA Amnesty Failed for Mexicans, but not for Over-Stayed Visa Holders by Mimi Lozano The Seven Amnesties Passed by Congress Undocumented students go “back home” to Mexico for the first time

SPECIAL
Hispanic Olympian Medal Winners Rio de Janeiro, Brazil 2016 by Mercy Bautista-Olvera

HERITAGE PROJECTS
Ramon "Chunky" Sanchez
Rancho Del Sueño: Home of the Endangered Wilbur-Cruce Mission Horses Random Act of Mendez Month, RAM, September 15 - October 15 National Historic Landmark Site of Mendez v. Westminster

HISTORIC TIDBITS
Details of the expeditions of Hernando de Soto Rare Film from 1932 Isabel de Castilla, la primera mujer en aparecer en monedas y sellos de los Estados Unidos

HISPANIC LEADERS
San Juanita Martinez-Hunter, Ph. D.
Juan Gabriel’s Ashes, Purple Rains and the Rebirth of the Pachuco

LATINO PATRIOTS
Soldier's Song
Inside The Army’s Spectacular Hidden Treasure Room Lest We Forget: Latino/Chicano Veterans

EARLY LATINO PATRIOTS
The Gathering Storm by Judge Edward Butler September 1779 by Joe Perez

SURNAMES
The Mendez Family . . . La Familia Mendez by Mike Mendez The Illustrious House of Mendez de Sotomayor by John D. Inclan Meaning of the Suffix EZ or ES: Posted and written by Jaron J. Cortez

DNA
Worlds Within Us by Samir S. Patel
click to Book review of: In Mestizo Genomics: Race Mixture, Nation, and Science in Latin America

FAMILY HISTORY
Salt Lake New Collections Update: Week of September 19, 2016 Top 100 Genealogy Sites Traductor - sugerencia para revista bilingue

EDUCATION
UTRGV student reflects the lessons learned at MOSTHistory Howard Hughes Medical Institute (HHMI) actively recruiting for ethnic minority and woman candidates VE . . VolcomEducation LLC There IS room for faith in public schools XICAN, Institute for Teaching and Organizing

My grandfather Jose Mena, I was told he was born in 1904 Union de San Antonio, Jalisco, Mexico.
He married Juana Valderrama in Los De Moreno on February 1 1923. She was born 1907 in same town.
They had 2 son names Guadalupe born 1926 and Leopoldo born 1925 on their border crossing index card from Laredo Texas it reads they were born in El Jaralito, Jalisco, Mexico. I can’t find El Jaralito, Jalisco. Can someone please let me know where it is? Where do I find birth Records for them. I have enclose copies of border crossing documents. I hope they show up, My first time sending attach files.Thanks for any help. Laurie Machen

Hola amigos, tengo una duda desde hace vario tiempo y es que en el IGI está un registro en el que se menciona al Capitán Pedro de Anda Altamirano, quien casó con Catalina Saenz de Vidaurre el 28 de junio de 1648 en Santa María de los Lagos, Nueva Galicia. Y menciona dicho registro, que el capitán es hijo de Esteban de Anda Altamirano y Catalina López de Portugal.

Mi duda surge cuando en el libro del Lic. Mariano González Leal menciona al capitán como hijo del Capitán Juan de Anda Altamirano y de Juana Ruiz de Nava.

Alguno de ustedes sabe en realidad ¿De quién es hijo el Capitán Pedro de Anda Altamirano?

Saludos.
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.

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Gracias Messenger por estos 10 años
www.aniversariomessenger.com.mx

HI everyone,
This is a repost from a few weeks ago.
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I’m currently researching Beatriz Lopez de Ayala, historical figure of Colima among other states who was married at one time to Alonso De Arevalo. She sailed from Sevilla in 1518 (18 yo) and landed in New Spain 1535 with Antonio De Mendoza, the first Virrey of New Spain. Her parents were Pedro de Lopez Ayala and Teresa Recalde.

Has anyone researched her family back in Spain? According to the Colima website, she was from Sevilla. Her fathers name was Pedro Lopez de Ayala and I am wondering if she is connected to the noble house of Lopez de Ayala. I ask this second question as Beatriz stated she traveled with Virrey Mendoza (Antonio de Mendoza) to new Spain and his father, The Marques de Santillana, a poet, was part of the same circle as the noble house of Lopez de Ayala’s including "Pedro Lopez de Ayala" (another one) who was a prominent poet, historian etc. at the time.

Please let me know if anyone has any light to her origin.
Also how could she travel alone at 18 on a ship to New Spain without family?
Any help appreciated,
Pauline

Sources:
http://sceh.blogspot.com/2010/04/terratenientas-de-colima-en-el-siglo.h…

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marqu%C3%A9s_de_Santillana
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_L%C3%B3pez_de_Ayala

Hello, all. I am hoping to get some help finding information for my ancestory, Jose Candelario Delgadillo. He was married 27 June 1773 in Cuquio, Jalisco, to
Maria Juana Francisca Reynoso Alderete (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18454-13633-16). Information from their marriage record shows he was the son of Don Salvio Delgadillo and Dona Maria de Cardenas. I have not been able to find any information about his baptism, even though I have been able to locate information for 7 of his brothers and sisters in Cuquio between 1757 and 1771.

Given when he was married, he was most likely older than all of these siblings. I am also looking for marriage information of his parents. It looks like Salvio was baptized in Cuquio in 1728, but I'm still not certain of that. Just trying to fill in holes. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks!

Hola a todos,

Hace poco me puse a ver la monografía de Gutiérrez Rubio en *Retoños de
España* y me dí cuenta que Mariano González Leal no tiene a Leonor
Gutiérrez de la Vega como hija de Francisco Gutiérrez Rubio y de Ana
González Florida, como la tenían otras personas, sino como hija de Pedro
Hernández y de María Rubio por lo que aparece en la monografía Tavera de la
Vega. Leonor fue esposa de Gerónimo Antonio Tavera hijo de Nicolás Ramírez
de Tavera y de Polonia de Torres. Como hay otro hijo de Francisco Gutiérrez
Rubio y de Ana González Florida que casó con una hija de Nicolás Ramírez de
Tavera y de Polonia de Torres y los hermanos se casaban con los hermanos de
los cuñados se me hace raro que Leonor no es hija de Francisco Gutiérrez
Rubio y de Ana González Florida. ¿Hay alguien que tiene mas información
sobre Leonor?

Hello everyone,

I've finallly read the chapter on Gutiérrez Rubio in *Retoños de
España*and this when I learned that Leonor Gutiérrez de la Vega o
Rubio Godínez,
wife of Gerónimo Antonio Tavera, is not mentioned as the daughter of
Francisco Gutiérrez Rubio y de Ana González Florida, who I once thought
were the parents. Instead the parents of Leonor are named as Pedro
Hernández and María Rubio. The parents of Gerónimo Antonio Tavera were
Nicolás Ramírez de Tavera and Polonia de Torres. There is another child of
Francisco Gutiérrez Rubio that married a daughter of Nicolás Ramírez de
Tavera and Polonia de Torres and since siblings would marry the siblings of
their brother-in-law or sister-in-law I would have expected Leonor to be a
daughter of Francisco Gutiérrez Rubio y de Ana González Florida. Does
anyone have more information on Leonor?

Saludos cordiales,
Armando

Has anyone have or gone further in this line. I am really confused but so grateful in finding this record that seems like a Dispensa. I tried but it is above my head right now. I found what looks like a Dispensa that states Aleman and Cabesas are related. aleman's great grandfather (bisabuelo) is grandfather to Cabesas. Then it seems they are given grado 2 for primos hermanos, 3degree, 4th degree I really can't decipher.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9GLV-P5D

Joaquin Joseph de Medellin born 1721 (LC8K-SJ5 Familysearch.org ID Number)
He is son of Cayetano de Medellin and Theresa Gonzales de Solis Cortes (surname has many variations)

Joaquin Joseph married to first wife Juana Francisca Cabesas

JJ second wife is Juana Maria de Aleman whose mother is Gertrudis de Aleman y de PNC

The Sifuenza de Aleman are my family but I believe this marriage holds a key to finding 6x grandfather Marcos de Aleman's father (marcos is married 2x First to Maria Velasco y Pena and Second to Agueda Coronado de Leon, one is 6x grandmother second is 6x great Aunt). I also believe Sebastian de Aleman is his brother.

Thanks for any small clue to who the grandparents were of both wifes.

One interesting note was that Joaquin states he had always heard his parents talking that they were related. From what I have gathered they all knew each other.

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I have seen the ancestry of Lope Ruis de Esparza going back a number of generations, in some cases to a Martin Ruiz, Señor de Esparza. What are the documents that support this ancestry? Are they readily available?

Can anyone provide the details?

George Fulton

I have a second cousin named Antonio Madera. His father's name was Higinio
Madera. Are you perhaps related to them? They are from Mezquitic.

On Tuesday, May 12, 2015,
wrote:

I have been a member of this group for a few years now so it past time for me to introduce myself. My paternal grandfather's parents came with his father's family from the small town, village, or Hacienda of San Agustin, Jamay, Jalisco (located on the main road between Jamay and La Barca) to the Houston area about 1920. Before then, the Gonzalez family (my family changed it to Gonzales later after they came to the US) had lived in and around the cities of La Barca, Ocotlan, and Jamay, Jal for hundreds of years. So there is a great likelihood that I am related to many people from those areas. This also means I descend from many of the founding Los Altos families. My maternal grandmother's mother, Epifania Habitud Arteaga, came from family came from Zacatecas, Zac. about 1906 and her family has deep roots in Villanueva, Zac and were involved in the silver mines. I have taken an AncestryDNA test, which I've also transferred to FamilytreeDNA and to GedMatch (id # is A675073) My main family tree is on Ancestry and have been working on it for 5 years.

Some Fun Facts:

Although I do descend from the Gonzalez de Hermosillo family, my direct paternal line may lead to a different Gonzalez family from that area. My 8th great grandfather, Diego Gonzalez de Islas (b. Abt 1673, unknown origins) settled in Ocotlan and married Francisca de Garibay. Their son Joseph Marcos married Juana Geronima Gertrudis Lomelin Carranza, Daughter of Marcos Gonzalez Carranza (Son of Andres Sanchez Carranza and Maria Gonzalez de Hermosillo) and Juana Lomelin (I don't know her parent). Joseph Marcos Gonzalez and Juana Carranza stayed in the Ocotlan area and had at least 10 children including two of my direct acestors, Dionico (1729-1784) and Juan Calletano. Interestingly, these brothers married 2 cousins, Dionicio married Francisca Carillo, daughter of Cristoval Carrillo and Ma Dolores Castellanos, and Juan Calletano married Antonia Godines, daughter of Antonio Godines and Manuela (Lomelin) Carrillo. Cristoval and Manuela were the children of Juan Baptista de Orosco Carrillo and Beatris de Lomelin Vasquez.

I just made several breakthroughs in my family due to the release of the indexed Mexican Civil Registrations on Ancestry. One of them was a confirmation to a rumor that my paternal Greatgrandparents, Jesus Diaz Gonzalez and Ma Concepcion Diaz Sanchez, were cousins. Turns out that their mothers, Ma Concepcion and Ma Eduvigis Estrada Diaz, were sisters. It seems Concepcion's mother (Maria Eduvigis) died when she was a baby. For whatever reason, after her mother died, her father didn't take care of her/want her and so she was taken in by her aunt/future mother-in-law. Anyway after I found her father's name and the records related to him, I then traced his line further and soon found out his father came from Tepatitlan. So I descend from even more Los Altos families to include from another son of Carlo de Lomelinni, Domingo a few times (I already had traced one line on my Gonzalez side to him through his son, Lucas)

Another thing, I have just recently found the exact online images for the 1768, 1770, and 1772 Padrones for the cities and surrounding areas of Ocotlan and La Barca (Jamay is included as Xamain) in the familysearch records for Michoacan, under the city that used to be the Archdioscese of Michoacan, Morelia.

La Barca, 1768: familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-6DG9-K
Ocotlan, 1768: familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-6DLF-D
La Barca, 1770: familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:2:77TX-1RT
Ocotlan, 1770: familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:2:77TX-15FV
La Barca, 1772: familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-DZS5-J5
Ocotlan, 1772: familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-DCSH-GQ

There have been a few brick walls that have remain unbroken. So I need to make a few posts soon to make better use of the resources and knowledge of the more experienced members on this site.

More to come,

Paul A. Gonzales
Texas A&M '13

I have looked and looked, and I cannot find the marriage record for Agustin Gonzalez and Maria Josefa Montoya. FamilySearch gives the marriage date as 28 February 1783. There are no certificates with that date. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DTQ7-V7F?i=57&wc=M6QF-L68%…
So I thought maybe it's recorded a few days later. But now I have looked twice through all of 1783, 1782 and 1784. No luck.

Maybe I am just missing it. Help!

Daniel

I am searching for slave information in Zacatecas and Aguascalenties. I need to find the documents where slave owners listed their property including the numbers and names of slaves. Does anyone know where I can find this information?

I found a marriage record for Salvador Trillo who I'm sure is Salvador Tello. Can anyone please help me figure out a few important facts I need to find? This record is written with many abbreviated words and possibly has Latin words also. Anyway, can anyone please tell me if you can find out this information for me:

1. Does it state Salvador's age and his parents ethnic identity
2. Does it state his wife's age and her parents ethnic identity
3. I see the word esclavo, does that mean he may have been a chained property?
4. Does it mention his master's name.
5. Is anyone willing to translate the complete document for me?

Can you tell me where else on this records I can look to find more information on Salvador and his wife Juana Maria Aguilar. I have researched every record in Zacatecas and have not found children born tho this couple in Zacatecas.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-RXSF-9S?i=238&wc=3P9X-K68%…

I descend from Jose Blas Perez de Paredes ( Aka Perez Franco).

I descend from him and his wife', Rosa Martin del Campo. I just found a marriage dispensation where Rosa is identified as Josefa Martin del Campo instead of Rosa. .. The parents of both Josefa and Rosa are the same. Depending on the document, they are both the mother of Beatriz Catharina Perez de Paredes y Martin del Campo. I believe that Rosa and Josefa must be the same person.

The other issue with this family is that most people that have Beatriz Catarina Perez de Paredes y Martin in their family tree list her with only one husband. Beatriz Catarina Perez de Paredes has multiple marriages unless Rosa and Josefa are not the same person and are sisters with each one having a daughter with Jose Blas Perez de Pardes named Beatriz Catharina Perez de Pardes (Perez Franco) .

Has anyone else investigated this family.? Beatriz Catharina Perez de Pardes had two marriages that I know of, and a possibility of a third marriage that needs further investigating.

Rick A. Ricci

I am searching for slave information in Zacatecas and Aguascalenties. I need to find the documents where slave owners listed their property including the numbers and names of slaves. Does anyone know where I can find this information?

6 years before the 1940 Census becomes available. Anyone wanting to get
involved in a good cause related to that release should email Joel and
let him know that I referred you. I worked on the 1930 census project

joseph

ps: what does this have to do with Jalisco, Zacatecas, and or
Aguascalientes? Well nothing. I think the Announce and General list are
available for brief divergences from our target area. I'd hope that the
Research list stays pretty tightly in sight of the Target.

pps: anyway my Grandparents are in the 1940 Census somewhere and they
were from Jalisco. . .take that! See how easy it was to bring almost any
message "on target"? Use your imagination and or generalize your
questions and you can ask just about anything. General genealogy
questions that are not geographic specific are always on Target.

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Subject: Fw: Call for Volunteers -- 1940 Census
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:10:24 -0700
From: Joel Weintraub
Reply-To: Joel Weintraub
To: , Joseph Puentes ,
CC: Stephen P. Morse

Hi Group,

First, thanks for your past efforts to make the US Census more available to
genealogists searching by geographical techniques.

Now that I'm fully retired, I'm turning my attention to another large
project. I've been discussing this with Steve Morse, and we have decided to
tackle the 1940 Census. The good news is that the ED descriptions are block
by block for many, many cities in 1940. There were only 60 plus cities in
1930 that all the streets were shown on the NARA boundary descriptions. I
anticipate that we will have over 200 cities in that situation (all over
50,000) for 1940. Thus we won't have to worry about getting street names
off of maps. Second, Steve, Dave Kehs and I have been working on a utility
that should make transcribing the block by block descriptions easier.

We know that it's 6 years before the 1940 census becomes public.... but if
we can do this project during the next few years, it will be money in the
bank.

I'm in the process of scanning all the necessary descriptions off of the
1940 NARA ED boundary description films. When that is done, I'll start
giving out those resources and guides to the volunteers.

Steve sent the following message to the volunteers that worked on the Ellis
Island One Step project, and I'm forwarding the message to you to ask for
your help.

Thanks in advance....

Joel Weintraub

To all interested into further venturing into their roots... Saturday, October 22nd, Sacramento, CA.

Nueva Galicia Genealogy Society (NGGS) of Sacramento offers this one day conference for persons exploring their Mexican/Spanish/American genealogies. Nueva Galicia was the Spanish description of an area in central Mexico composed of the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas, Nayarit, Colima and Aguascalientes.

Para todos los interesados en aventurarse más lejos en sus raíces ... Sábado, 22 de Octubre de Sacramento, CA.

Nueva Galicia Genealogy Society (NGGS) de Sacramento ofrece esta conferencia de un día para las personas que exploran sus genealogías mexicano / español / americano. Nueva Galicia fue la descripción española de un área en el centro de México integrada por los estados de Jalisco, Zacatecas, Nayarit, Colima y Aguascalientes.

Here's a link about event:

http://www.nuevagalicia.org/?page_id=296

Linda,

The marriage act is almost impossible to read; however, I found this:

Joseph Gonzalez de Hermosillo, son of Miguel Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Francisca Regina de Villas... (deceased)
Married with Francisca Gertrudis Romero de Zamora; daughter of Lucas Romero de Chávez and Petronila Gonzalez de Hermosillo.

It mentions "consanguineidad de 4o grado" - Fourth grade; that means, Joseph and Gertrudis were cousins; it also mentions the Obispo (bishop); I assumed the bishop had to approve this marriage.

Fernando del Real

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1. Beatriz Lopez de Ayala (pavendano@earthlink.net)
2. Gertrudis Romero de Chaves (Linda)

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HI everyone, Just as an update to my last post. I found what I think is Beatriz info from the Pasajeros A India list for 1535. It states that her mother was Leonor Hernandez. My research via the historical site for Colima states Teresa de Recalde. Can anyone shed light on her mother's name? Thanks, Pauline

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I can’t understand the marriage references to Joseph Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Gertrudis Romero. It looks like she is the daughter of Lucas Romero de Chaves and petronila Gonzalez de Hermosillo but the record says she is Gertrudis Romero de Mora or Zamora.

Can someone clear this up for me?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-D2XQ-8?i=118&wc=3JW5-VZ3%3…

Thank you for your help.

Linda Romero

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Dear Dennis,

We are distant cousins, fourth or fifth, I haven't figured out which.

Here are a few ancestors to add to your tree.

Pablo Raphael Vallejo y Gonzalez de Hermosillo is the son of Juan Maria Vallejo Ramirez Cornejo and Gertrudis R. Gonzalez de Hermosillo.

Juan Maria is the son of Lucas Vallejo Ramirez and Tomasa Herrera y Delgadillo

Lucas is the son of Jose Pdro Vallejo Osorio Gordiva and Melchora Ramirez Cornejo

Tomasa is the daughter of Geronimo Herrera and Agustina de la Rosa Delgadillo

Gertrudis is the daughter of Juan Ignacio Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Maria Gonzalez RUBIO

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Gertrudis Perez is the daughter of Jose Mateo Manuel Perez y Alvarez and Rosalia Gomez de Mendoza y De la Torre

Jose Mateo Manuel is the son of juan Jose Perez Franco y Gutierrez de Hermosillo and Anna Gertrudis M Alvarez Gonzalez
Juan Jose is the son of Pedro Manuel Perez Franco and Maria G. Gutierrez de Hermosillo

Juana Gertrudis is the daughter of Joachin Leonardo Alvarez Tostado and Maria Antonia Dolores Gonzalez de Hermosillo

Rosalia Gomez de Mendoza is the daughter of Esteban de L Gomez de Mendoza an Micaela B. De la Torre Ledesma y Cornejo

Esteban is the son of Anastacio Gomez de Mendoza and Polonia Martin de Sotomayor

Micaela is the daughter of Jph Antonio De la Torre and Dorotea (Theodora) de Jesus Cornejo

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Jose Martin and Ignacia Franco may be my ancestors who were known as

Francisco Xavier A.J, "josesito" Martin del Campo and Maria Ignacia FDS Franco de Paredes

Josesito is the son of Jose Manuel Martin del Campo y Pedrosa and Leonor Samora y Mendoza

Ignacia is the daughter of Ildefonso (Aloonso) Franco de Paredes y Lomelin and Maria Catharina Valdivia Aldrete de la Mora

Ildefonso is the son of Alonso Franco de Paredes and Margarita Lomelin

Maria Catharina is the daughter of Manuel Aldrete Valdivia and Maria de la Mora

Jose Manuel Martin del Campo is the son of Lazaro Marcos Martin del Campo and Maria Francisca Pedrosa

Leonor is the daughter of Juan de la Mora y Mendoza and Leonor Hermosillo

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I do have more info but I want to get back to the USC Utah state football game.

Saludos primo,

Rick A. Ricci

Can someone help me sort this out ? I'm not sure if these people are the same with different last names. I'm trying to do my family search on one of my last name Flores. The person in question is Simon Flores who married Maria del Carmen Lomeli in the 1830's in jalisco. I have yet to find their wedding document. I'm a related to their son Calletano Flores born in the 1840's. I have yet to find his birth doc too.I know that it was in the 1840's because I did find Calletano's wedding doc. 2 of Calletano's sisters were born in tecolotlan. They are Francisca Flores, born Jan 28th 1853. And Donaciana Flores born Sept 5 1858. Based on their baptism documents. the grandparents were Jose Maria Flores and Benita Salazar. I came across a wedding document for a Simon Becerra married to Maria del Carmen Lomeli on Jun 14 1837 in Tecolotlan. Simon Becerra parents in the document are Jose Maria Becerra and Benita Salazar. Can they be the same person ?And why would they change the last name ? I also found that Simon Becerra and Maria del Carmen Lomeli did baptise other children with the Becerra last name. Can someone point me in the right direction ? PLEASE!

I have just posted the final installment of my project to extract the matrimonial investigations for Aguascalientes, generally covering the period 1737-1740.

My original intent was to extract those matrimonial investigations that will provide information not present in the marriage records (ie, parents' names). After about 1740, the marriage records generally provide this information. These records are problematic to search as they are not in chronological order, and years are often included not indicated by the Family Search film titles.

The file is searchable pdf, and presents the information in image number order. When searching you may need to use the usual spelling variations - Nabarro for Navarro, for example - typical for the period.

The file is located in the NR files area, under reference materials "Aguascalientes Matrimonial Investigations."

Please use this as a key to the original records, and not as the final answer! There is more information in the original records.

As a reminder Family Search reposted the films after I started this project a few years back, so the image numbers on the first couple of postings do not match the current Family Search film images. The image numbers on this latest posting should be correct.

My next project is the Asientos matrimonial investigations which begin in 1705.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Three months ago I found out that someone had plagiarized some of my work. I had shared some of my findings with this person, and had even provided a couple of my sources of my work. I have my correspondence with this person saved so I have proof of our communications. This person posted this information with one of the sources as if they had done all the research. This person screwed up some of the information so although it hurt to be plagiarized, it also felt good that he didn't cite me as a source as a couple of the mistakes were big. He didn't even realize that the information he was providing was different than the information in the source. He didn't understand the source and tweaked my comments to him just enough so that he may claim they were his statements, yet the tweaks showed that he didn't understand the source. This plagiarism was on my research on Toribio Hernandez Arellano.

Last night I found out that it had happened again. This time a different plagiarist copied and pasted the information that I had posted here on nuestroranchos .com on geni .com and posted it as if he had done all of the research on Toribio Hernandez Arellano. They had cut and pasted many paragraphs without changing a word. This hurt as I had spent years and hard work researching this material. I find this plagiarism is extremely disrespectful.

Plagiarism can be avoided just by giving credit and citing the source.

I was going to write a long letter on plagiarism but the wounds are fresh and the emotions that I am feeling are very strong, I think maybe it is best to start off this discussion with the definition of plagiarism according to http://www.plagiarism.org/plagiarism-101/what-is-plagiarism

"WHAT IS PLAGIARISM?

Many people think of plagiarism as copying another's work or borrowing someone else's original ideas. But terms like "copying" and "borrowing" can disguise the seriousness of the offense:

ACCORDING TO THE MERRIAM-WEBSTER ONLINE DICTIONARY, TO "PLAGIARIZE" MEANS

to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own
to use (another's production) without crediting the source
to commit literary theft
to present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source
In other words, plagiarism is an act of fraud. It involves both stealing someone else's work and lying about it afterward.

BUT CAN WORDS AND IDEAS REALLY BE STOLEN?

According to U.S. law, the answer is yes. The expression of original ideas is considered intellectual property and is protected by copyright laws, just like original inventions. Almost all forms of expression fall under copyright protection as long as they are recorded in some way (such as a book or a computer file).

ALL OF THE FOLLOWING ARE CONSIDERED PLAGIARISM:

turning in someone else's work as your own
copying words or ideas from someone else without giving credit
failing to put a quotation in quotation marks
giving incorrect information about the source of a quotation
changing words but copying the sentence structure of a source without giving credit
copying so many words or ideas from a source that it makes up the majority of your work, whether you give credit or not (see our section on "fair use" rules)
Most cases of plagiarism can be avoided, however, by citing sources. Simply acknowledging that certain material has been borrowed and providing your audience with the information necessary to find that source is usually enough to prevent plagiarism. See our section on citation for more information on how to cite sources properly."

I repeat, the source for this definition is: http://www.plagiarism.org/plagiarism-101/what-is-plagiarism
Rick A. Ricci

Hola compañeros:

Cuento con el codicilo de Don Pedro Lorenzo de Castilla, en caso de que tenga interés para alguno de ustedes, háganmelo saber para publicar el extracto.

Saludos

Marcelina

Announcement Mexican Genealogy Conference 2016

EXPLORE YOUR MEXICAN ROOTS

The Nueva Galicia Genealogy Society (NGGS) of Sacramento offers this one day
conference for persons exploring their Mexican/Spanish/American genealogies.
Nueva Galicia was the Spanish description of an area in central Mexico
composed of the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas, Nayarit, Colima and
Aguascalientes.

Saturday, October 22, 2016, California State Archives, 1020 "O" Street,
Sacramento, CA. 8:30 am to 5:00 pm

Speakers:

(1) Don Fernando Munoz Altea will present (in Spanish, and will be
translated) his work on the history of names: from Spain to Mexico. His
book "Balsones y Apellidos" identifies where in Spain a name originated, and
its first appearance in the new world. Professor Altea is a distinguished
writer, journalist, historical researcher, genealogist, heraldry specialist,
painter, and lecturer. Born and schooled in Madrid he became a Mexican
citizen in 1976. He holds an advanced degree from Universidad Hermanos
Maristas de Madrid and many honors in Mexico, Texas, and Spain. He has
published biographies of the signers of the Independence Act, and of the
Vicroys of Mexico. The Editor, Ignacio Narro will translate and contribute
to the presentation.

(2) Ricardo Rodriguez and Armando Antunano. (In English) These speakers
will share findings of their FamilyTreeDNA Nueva Galicia DNA Project,
including native american roots. This work can connect people back to their
ancestral lines in selected areas, or to selected surnames using Family Tree
DNA. They are particularly focused on the Los Altos region of Jalisco and
Zacatecas (Jalostotitlan, Valle de Guadelupe, Teocaltiche, Canadas de
Obregon, Cuquio, Nochistlan and surrounding areas) and surnames such as
Garcia, Sanchez, Gonzalez, Rodriguez, Gutierrez, Lopez, Hernandez, Gomez,
Martinez, Perez, Ramirez, Ovalle, Jauregui, and others.

(3) A Q&A session will follow each presentation. Special tours of the State
Archives will be available, as will members to explain NGGS genealogy
resources. NGGS President Robert Hernandez will make closing remarks.

Preregistration required. $100 registration includes a continental
breakfast at 8:00, and lunch. A no-host dinner with music at Vallejo's
Restaurant will follow the conference. Info:
EMail: tehuima@yahoo.com

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http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/history/article71081497.html

Hola de nuevo:

Saludos a todos, cuento con el testamento de Don Hernando Galván, padre del clan Galván de Rojas, por si le interesa a alguien más.

Saludos

Marcelina