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Hey, My name is Abel Sandoval 

My dad was born in San Blas, Nayarit and his parents were Maria Martinez Llamas born in Union de Tula in est1928, Jalisco and Alberto Sandoval Ramirez I think born in Zacatecas in est1938.

I found my dads baptism paper with his grandparents and parents names:

Los papas de Alberto Sandoval Ramirez fueron Maximiliano Sandoval(creo Sandoval Tovar) y Socorro Ramirez(creo Maria de Socorro Ramirez Ramirez)creo que los dos fueron de Zacatecas. Im not sure how many kids they had but i found a record of a Julia Sandoval that was died shorlty after she was born in Feb 17 1943

Los papas de Maria Martinez Llamas fueron Zeferino Martinez(Martinez Ruiz) y Antonia Llamas(Llamas Arias) los doz fueron de Union de Tula, Jalisco.  They had 11 kids all are deceased. 

Maria Martinez Llamas we think had a family in Jalisco from what people told my dad and ran off with my grandpa. My grandmother got sick after she gave birth to my dad in Nov 18 1966 and went back to Union de Tula

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Published by AbelS. – Tue, 2025-04-15 04:30 | Permalink

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I did some more looking and found what I believe to be my grandmother Maria Martinez's baptism. She was born in las Palmas, Jalisco.

I also found my Great grandfathers baptism record. He was born in El rancho de los Tovares, Tepechitlan, Zacatecas. I'm not sure where that is since I believe the name has changed to something else.

and I found birth records of my grandfathers sister Abelina Sandoval born 2 Nov 1935 altamira, Tepechitlan, Zacatecas, Mexico. Not sure if she is still alive or not but im getting closer.

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Hola! My name is Jenn Ames and my paternal grandfather, Manuel Amezcua, was born in 1906 in Guadalajara, Mexico. I grew up quite close to my grandparents, however I never knew much about his side of the family or why he left Mexico when he did in 1926 and came to NY. I have been digging into the history of Mexico, primarily Jalisco, and researching every family member and associate I come across. Here is a little piece of what I've collected:

Grandfather - Manuel Amezcua (changed to Ames after coming to the US but not until the 1940s) born 29 Oct 1906

Great-grandmother - Maria Concepcion Amezcua born 6 Feb 1879 in Tala, Jalisco to Ambrosio Amezcua and Maria Eligia Ocampo. She married Porfirio Orozco (born 16 Sept 1868 in Zapopan, Jalisco) in June 1896, and they had 4 children together. Only 2 survived to adulthood and I have family pictures of "Tio Pablo" and "Tia Ana". Porfirio died in Feb 1905 in Guadalajara and their youngest daughter died the following month in Zapopan. I'm not sure

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Published by silvernblack – Wed, 2025-03-19 20:36 | Permalink

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The Ocampo surname would typically be the Mother's maiden name....but his mother's maiden name is Amezcua.... I have not seen a record where the Ocampo is used as part of his name.

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I wrote to the the person editing Manuel Padilla Francos to ask if he knew about Manuel Amezcua..... and the 3 Manuel Padillas....... we'll see if he responds.  

Below is what I mentioned and asked:

"GuadalupePadilla Gutierrez:

I suspect that his Manuel Padilla Franco born in 1883 died young because the parents had another Manuel Padilla Franco born in 1887.   Also there is Manuel Padilla that had a child named Manuel Amezcua---- is that his son?    See here:    

Manuel Padilla Franco  Male 17 December 1883 – Deceased G7YN-PX9

Manuel Padilla Franco (1887–Deceased) • Person • Family Tree

and....  Manuel Padilla  Male  Deceased  P9M2-GL5     are these all the same person?  son todos estos la misma persona?"

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He’s a member of the Jalisco Genealogy Facebook group and I had posted about my grandfather there. He does have the Padilla surname but I don’t want to just add people without doing the research. I don’t really like that he took my family picture and posted it for someone that I’m unsure is the right person…I haven’t been bold enough to approach the subject though! 

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Published by silvernblack – Wed, 2025-03-19 19:21 | Permalink

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even has the same picture..... if you want me to I will merge the individuals.... the parents had 2 kids with the same name.....so I suspect one of them died as a baby..... seen that quite a bit....  one was born in 1883 and one was born in 1887......anyway check me:

Jenna1398

https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/G7YN-PX9

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That is my picture of my great-grandfather, but it has been uploaded from a Jalisco Facebook group where I posted it originally and not by me! I would have to do much more research on this person before I could say that it was for sure the Manuel Padilla I'm searching for. I don't want to have to correct mistakes later on. 

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Published by silvernblack – Wed, 2025-03-19 18:28 | Permalink

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Well....there is a whole tree here but you don't mention (or I missed) some part of the tree.....  https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/pedigree/landscape/9V9G-FRW

Was Manuel Padilla the actual father of Manuel Amezcua?  The birth registration states that she had been widowed from Porfirio Orozco for 2 years at time of Manuel Amezcua birth.....  and does NOT list a father for Manuel Amezcua.  

In the family tree somebody has placed under Manuel Padilla as his son?  Is this correct?  Did she ever marry Manuel Padilla?  If so we can go look for that document.

 

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Yes, Manuel Padilla is the biological father of Manuel Amezcua. Porfioro Orozco died in February 1905 and my grandfather was born Oct 1906. In many places I'm finding people (myself included in the past) have linked Porfirio as his father because Ma Concepcion was married to him just prior to my grandfather's birth. Neither his birth registration nor baptismal record list a father. I have not found any marriage records with Ma Concepcion and Manuel Padilla, but from reading about the area at that time this is not uncommon. There were many unwed or widowed women in the area raising families on their own. 

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Published by mralvarez314 – Wed, 2025-03-19 18:20 | Permalink

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Welcome to Nuestros Ranchos Jenn!


That's unfortunate you know so little about your paternal great grandfather, Manuel Padilla. He sounds like an interesting person. Your grandfather Manuel's baptismal record mentions he was born out of wedlock (hijo natural) and makes no mention of his father. The same goes for his birth record which also makes no mention of his father. If you haven't already done so, consider using DNA matches to help you in your search for Manuel Padilla and his ancestors.

Published by Jenna1398 – Wed, 2025-03-19 19:25 | Permalink

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I have actually slowly been combing through DNA matches on different sites. I build out family trees if they have one that I can add on to, but many people haven't started one yet and reaching hasn't gotten me any replies! It's so frustrating. I will not stop digging though!

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Hello, I'm Valerie Cefre, maiden name Garcia (y Guzman), and I'm very excited to join such an incredible group of people dedicated to chronicling the past for our future generations to enjoy! My mother was born in Zacatecas and my father was born in southern California and for most of my life, that's all I really knew about either side of my extended family. Both my parents had difficult childhoods which meant that they generally avoided taking about the past. It wasn't until my paternal grandmother was in her last days that my extended family (her in-laws) came to visit, from Texas! I was surprised to see my great uncles in Wrangler jeans, boots, and cowboy hats. My dad casually said that his father's side was from Corpus Christi as if it were common knowledge. Years later, my husband wanted to work on his family tree and I decided to do my side along with him but I didn't expect to find much since my mother was born in Nochistlán and my dad's maternal side came from Nuevo León. I was

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Published by silvernblack – Thu, 2024-11-21 22:53 | Permalink

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....since its free to use and to populate family trees there a a lot of folks that use it.... you may be able to see more info there.  Here is the page of your family tree.... there are a bunch of potential updates pending.....  and, yep, somebody has done a lot of populating:  https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/MVYY-WZP

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New Member: Jorge Casarez

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Hello-----I am Jorge Andres Casarez (y Sanchez)

My genealogy education began when my parents shared the names of their parents and grand parents.  

  • My mother born in DF/MXCD told me of her grandfather: Victoriano Sanchez Calderon. From Jilotepec, MX. In his family was someone who was Jewish and came from Aragon and Andorra.  
  • My Father Andres Casarez was born in Pleasanton, Texas, told me of his father Frumencio Casarez born in Webb County Texas and his father Plutarco Casares who came from and was born in Real de Catorce, San Luis De Potosi, who was married to Felicita Zamorra who was una Huasteca. 
    • The Texas lineage mixes with Esparza of the Alamo and the Huizar who was a surveyor for the Missions in the San Antonio and Justicia at San Jose Mission. 
  • And for many years that is all that I knew, then 25 years ago I started.  
  •  I am focusing on my Casarez ancestors. I have learned of the 1591 Tlaxcala Migration/Exodus/Quizaliztli of the soldiers and their families sent to Zacatecas and San
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Published by R.A.Ricci – Sat, 2024-11-09 14:06 | Permalink

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Hello Jorge Andres,

I am your very distant relative through our Ruiz de Esparza’s lines.  You can find many posts that I have made regarding our Esparza family in Nuestrosranchos.

You didn’t write much about your mother’s side of the family.  I did a little research using the few clues that you provided. 
Is this The death record of your maternal grandfather: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRK5-WKG?view=index&action=view&cc=1923424     ?

Rick A Ricci

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Published by JnMartinezM – Thu, 2024-11-07 22:00 | Permalink

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I'm researching some of my family lines in San Luis Potosí, particularly some ancestors that were born there between 1640 and 1700, and I've found a couple conformed by Joan Estevan de Caceres and Luisa Cavallero, whose daughter Joanna was baptized in the same city on Oct. 27, 1656. They are mentioned as Spaniard neighbors of San Luis Potosí. Maybe there are more relatives lost among these records. The link is above. Good luck with your research.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GG25-B1X?i=80&cc=1860864 

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Greetings, 

My name is Shamuwel. I am a descendant of Don Lope Ruiz De Esparza. Nice to meet you all !

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Jalisco and Zacatecas Ancestors

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Hello all!

I have just recently (last 6 months) started looking into my family history. All four of my grandparents came to the US from Mexico between 1916 and 1922. 

My father's paternal line is from Jalisco, mostly Lagos de Moreno and Etzatlan. I've hit a wall on his maternal side. I can't get beyond his mother's parents.

My mother's family is from Zacatecas. Her maternal line has roots in Sombrerete. But on her paternal line, I can't get beyond her grandparents. 

I have subscribed to Ancestry, which has helped in addition to Family Search. Are there digital archives from these states/cities in Mexico that we can access? Would appreciate any tips. 

Thanks!

Here is my folder: https://nuestrosranchos.org/monica_fisher

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I think that here mother's surname is Ramires.....so her name would be Macedonia Rivas Ramirez.....

I am not absolutely sure so I have not linked Maria Luisa Rivas/Arroniz.....  if you are confident then I can tie them all together....

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-K25R-F?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A684K-TRBW&action=view

there is already quite a tree created if you want to look:  

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/MTCJ-QYD

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go check it and see if I screwed anything up.   I cannot find a direct link to Francisco Arroniz parents?   Also he is named as "Jesus Arones" in the death certificate for Maria Luisa Pulido/Arronize/nee Rivas.  Anyway...take a peek and either fix what you find or tell me what I messed up so I can fix it.   https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/GLN8-LV6  

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At first glance the tree looks good.  And I really appreciate your finding Maria Luisa's death certificate. I hadn't been able to find it which I found strange considering she died in Los Angeles. Also, we never knew for sure which type of cancer she had and now we see it was ovarian.  Her father is still a mystery. Another person on Nuestros Ranchos told me Arroniz was not a common name in Jalisco/Ameca. So not even sure where he was born. Thanks again for your help.

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.....and Francisco was just the guy that brought the child in to report the birth?  Cannot find any info on Francisco so maybe he made up a name?  Should probably look for a Jesus Arronis/Arroniz (Jesus Arones on death registration) in Ameca or nearby areas.....

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Have no idea where the name Jesus came from. The few places her father's name is listed it's always Francisco.

But I did find a marriage record for Francisco Arroniz in D.F., Tacuba in 1922. It says he's 45 which squares with his being 21 when Maria Luisa was born. It lists his parents as Salvador Arroniz and Julia Yanez, originally from Ameca, Jalisco. So far I haven't been able to find any record connecting them with Francisco besides the marriage record. But I'll keep digging. 

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Have no idea where the name Jesus came from. The few places her father's name is listed it's always Francisco.

But I did find a marriage record for Francisco Arroniz in D.F., Tacuba in 1922. It says he's 45 which squares with his being 21 when Maria Luisa was born. It lists his parents as Salvador Arroniz and Julia Yanez, originally from Ameca, Jalisco. So far I haven't been able to find any record connecting them with Francisco besides the marriage record. But I'll keep digging. 

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Published by silvernblack – Sat, 2024-02-03 17:47 | Permalink

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She was an "hija natural" so there you are.  Birth was reported by Francisco Arroniz, reportedly "soltero" (single), and the father is reported as "no conocido" (unknown father--I'm staring squinty-eyed at this commend since Francisco presented the child).  The child was therefore given the Mothers surname.  She was born in 1895 not 1899

Anyway...see below and while I was at it added more references to your trees.  

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9PJ9-43H?view=index&pe…

 

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Published by monica_fisher – Fri, 2023-11-17 23:09 | Permalink

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Thanks for your help, Rick. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any birth or baptismal record for my grandmother, Maria Luisa.

I did find a death record for Macedonia Rivas in Ameca. It lists her as single, not widowed. She would have been around 39 when she had my grandmother in 1898.

And I found a Francisco Arroniz in Ameca who had a large family with his wife, Elena. He would have been 40 when my grandmother was born. So it's a definite possibility that these two are my great grandparents, but who knows. I'll keep searching in the meantime. 

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Published by R.A.Ricci – Fri, 2023-11-17 12:10 | Permalink

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Hello Monica,

I have a possible reason as why you are stuck on your fathers maternal grandparents.   It seems that they weren’t married to each other.  A person with her name is listed on her death record as being single, and a person with his name is recorded with a wife with a different name.    His name is not a common one in Jalisco, and especially in Ameca.   I can trace both of these individuals ancestry back but before that is done it should be confirmed that these are the same people as your dads maternal grandparents.   That can be done by getting your maternal grandmother’s birth record or baptismal record and searching for clues, threads, in those records.   
Rick A. Ricci

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New Member - Researching ancestors in Zacatecas

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Hello Everyone,

My name is Laura Villa and I am oringinally from Los Angeles County, California. My grandparents families come from Zacatecas. I have been working on gathering information, documents, and photos for over 15 years for our tree. I would be happy to share any information I have, and I would also love to connect with any relatives!

My grandfather was Manuel Jesus VILLA who spent most of his life in California. His parents were Margarito VILLA (born in 1881 in Juchipila son of Bruno Villa and Bernarda Perez) and his wife Maria ORTIZ (born in 1886 in Tabasco, Zac., daughter of Calixto Ortiz and Virginia Lara). Margarito and his wife moved back and forth between Mexico and California. 

My grandmother was Soledad CASILLAS who was born in Nochistlan. Her parents were not married. They were Isidoro CASILLAS (born 1892 in Nochistlan, son of Severo Casillas Borroel and Daria Teran Tolentino) and Eusebia SOLIS (born 1895 in Tabasco, Zac., daughter or Bernabe Solis and Maximiana "Maxima

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Hello, everyone. I’m new to the group and looking forward to collaborating with all of you. I have been working on my family tree on and off for about 10 years. 

I have hit a wall on my paternal line and am hoping for guidance and suggestions on how to move my research forward. I cannot locate birth records or parents of Matias Lepe (possibly y Rodriguez?) born around 1698 in Cocula, Jalisco and married to Bernardina Espinoza. I cannot locate her birth records either. 

I also need help tracing my Santana (Santa Ana) ancestors past Joseph Antonio Santana born about 1650 in Sayula, Jalisco and married to Juana Maria Lopez Bueso y Guerrero de Ocon. 

Any help you are able to provide on these two ancestors is greatly appreciated!

Vicky

 

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Published by dserna1 – Mon, 2023-05-15 16:19 | Permalink

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Hello,

Here is the "Informacion Matrimonial" of  Joseph de Santana when he married Juana Lopez Bueso y Guerrero de Ocon:

Mexico, Jalisco, Arquidiócesis de Guadalajara, dispensas matrimoniales y matrimonios de extranjeros; ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSXG-DWRT-9?i=84&cat=2358531 (familysearch.org)

 

In it we find out the parents of Jose de Santana as: Antonio de Santana cc  Maria de Castro.

Hope this helps,


Daniel Serna Valencia

 

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Published by VLGuzman – Thu, 2023-05-11 19:37 | Permalink

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Very interesting, Lee! I am pretty sure your grandson’s wife and I likely have other shared ancestors (Brambilas, Santanas, etc. in both trees). 

Thank you for the research leads. I’ve gone down the PARES rabbit hole more times than I care to admit. Such a treasure trove! I always end up getting distracted with fascinating finds and end up in a tangled web! I have much to learn still and you have given me such great ideas. Thank you so much!

Vicky

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Published by Lee Ingram – Wed, 2023-05-10 09:27 | Permalink

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Vicky,

I have had some luck with various Mexico research with notorial records, wills, and padrons; although I have not checked if the Cocula area is available online and/or at libraries.  I have also had some luck with sifting through Michoacan records, but most older records are not yet indexed.  Also PARES records are available, but again have not researched the Lepe surname much yet.  There are likely others that often check into this site that can elaborate further.  

Here is the linage of  Alejandra Zermeno (wife of my grandson):

  • Mathias Lepe b. Circa 1695, of Cocula, Jalisco, Mexico, d. 17 May 1779, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
    Joseph Toribio "Thoribio" Lepe b. 16 Apr 1732, Cocula, Jalisco, Mexico, d. 2 Feb 1807, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
    Jose Maria de Jesus Lepe b. 18 Oct 1774, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico, d. Bef 31 Oct 1864
    Jose Timoteo de Jesus Lepe b. 24 Aug 1842, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico, d. 22 Jun 1892, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
    Maria Juana Lepe b. Circa 1866, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico, d. 15 Aug 1912, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
    Jose Lopez b. 16 Oct 1899, El Salitre, Tecolotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
    Juan Lopez La Tinaja, Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico
    Camerina Lopez
    Jose de Jesus Zermeno 
    Alejandra Zermeno (Paul Hernandez jr - grandson)

Lee

 

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Published by Lee Ingram – Mon, 2023-05-08 18:04 | Permalink

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Vicky, Welcome to our group!.  I know this will not be of any help, but have the same brick wall with regard to Mathias Lepe and Bernardina Espinosa.  My grandson recently married to Alejandra Zermeno, and her family also links back to Mathias and Bernardina through Joseph Toribio Lepe and Manuela Brambila. Alejandra's Zermeno family settled in Juchitlan, Jalisco.  I have not had a lot of time to research this family, but if I find any clues on the parentage of Mathias, I will post on this forum.  Lee

 

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Hi Lee. Thank you for the kind welcome. I admire the great work of this group. While I’m not a professional genealogist or historian by trade, I have developed a great interest and respect for both fields.

Mathias Lepe is my 6th GG and would love to trace my paternal surname past his generation. Are there any source documents that may not have been indexed yet that I can work on? I have looked and looked for years and keep coming up empty handed. I’d love any and all ideas anyone may be able to offer. 

My ancestors through that line are:

Mathias Lepe: ~1698, Cocula, Jalisco

Geronimo Lepe Espinoza: Oct 2, 1723, Cocula, Jalisco (interestingly, his death certificate says he died in a desert)

Juan Clemente Lepe Agras: Nov 29, 1752, Tecolotlan, Jalisco

Jose Anastacio de la Trinidad Lepe Zamora: Jan 29, 1795, Tecolotlan, Jalisco

Jose Bruno de Jesus Lepe Brambila: Oct 5, 1838, Tecolotlan, Jalisco

Agustin Lepe Gomez, Aug 29, 1869, Ayutla, Jalisco

Jose Salvador Lepe Santana, May 14, 1900, Ayutla, Jalisco

Ramon Lepe Uribe (my father), Aug 9, 1933, Ayutla, Jalisco

Appreciate all the help!

 

 

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Raymundo Muñoz Introduction

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I wanted to introduce myself to the forum.  I'm Raymundo Muñoz from Brownsville, Texas.  I've been researching (since COVID lockdown) about my fathers paternal side of the family since i know very little from about them and am wanting to know more since that's the last name I carry.

A few things that I know about my grandfather is that he originated in Teocaltiche, Jalisco and then moved to Matamoros area (supposedly fleeing Jalisco for beating up the son of his boss) where he married my grandmother and then immigrated to Huntsville, Texas.  If you can see the attachment, it is confirmed (by my father) that his Pablo Muñoz and Virginia de Anda Quesada.  If anyone can help confirm that if I am in the right path and lastly if anyone has any information on Jose Maria Muñoz and his spouse Pascuala Gutierrez.

Thank you,

Raymundo

 

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Published by R.A.Ricci – Tue, 2023-05-16 12:28 | Permalink

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Esteban Muñoz’s real parents 

The closest that I am related is through the Reynoso. Maria del Carmen Reynoso is a descendant of Sebastian Reynoso Renteria and Francisca Ramirez de Hermosillo who I also descend from.

 

Lee Ingram has the correct parents for Esteban Muñoz.   The evidence is in the baptismal records of Pablo Muñoz and Virginia De Anda’s children.


 

Esteban’s  parents are Trinidad Munoz (Jose George de la Trinidad Munoz de Lopez Nava) and Teodocia Losa.  

Esteban and Celerina (Selerina, Enedina) Ramirez are parents of Pablo Munoz that was baptized 7 March 1880 in San Miguel el Alto. He was listed as born in Derramadero (Jalisco).  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-GPW7-Q?cc=1874591

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Published by Lee Ingram – Mon, 2023-05-08 11:06 | Permalink

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Raymundo,

Welcome to our group!   You list Pablo Munoz (born around 1886 in Jalisco) as the son of Esteban Munoz (Guerra) and Enedina Ramirez.  You also list Esteban as the son of Francisco Munoz and Hipolita Guerra.  Esteban Munoz Guerra was baptized 3 ago. 1889 (3 Aug 1889) Señor de la Ascensión, Unión de San Antonio, Jalisco, México. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-GR9H-H?cc=1874591&wc=3J6X-16N%3A173503201%2C173503202%2C173770403 : 16 February 2017), Unión de San Antonio > Señor de la Ascensión > Bautismos 1888-1890 > image 231 of 382

Unless there were two Esteban's within the same family, I do not believe Francisco Munoz Gutierrez and Hipolita Guerra were Esteban's parents.  

However there is a Esteban Munoz (Lopez Nava)  that married Celerina Ramirez on 10 Feb 1879 in San Miguel el Alto. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-GTXP-J?cc=1874591  

Esteban was listed as from Saucillo (Jalisco).  I believe Celerina was from Derramadero (Jalisco). I noticed Enedina was listed in some records of their children as Celerina/Selerina instead of Enedina.  Esteban Munoz was baptized on 7 August 1857 in San Miguel el Alto https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-G59K-QT?cc=1874591

The particular Esteban listed his parents as Trinidad Munoz (Full name Jose George de la Trinidad Munoz de Lopez Nava) and Teodocia Losa.  

Esteban and Celerina did have a son Pablo Munoz that was baptized 7 March 1880 in San Miguel el Alto. He was listed as born in Derramadero (Jalisco).  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-GPW7-Q?cc=1874591

Trinidad was the son of Joseph Maria Antonio Munoz and Maria del Carmen Reynoso.  

I am not sure this is your family, but might be worth you investigating.

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Hello, finally got around to looking into it. I think you are correct. The discrepancy that I found is like you said. I have found 3 different names for Enedina, Celerina, and Senorina. I have also seen 2 different spellings for Esteban vs Estevan.

 

I have also found little to no information regarding my paternal grandparent Salvador Muñoz whose parents were Pablo Muñoz and Virginia Anda.

I only found 1 baptism record of my aunt (still living so won’t name her) in Teocaltiche, Jalisco that names my grandfather Salvador Muñoz. Her parents (my grandparents) Salvador Muñoz and Alicia Castilleja.

Thanks!

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Published by R.A.Ricci – Sat, 2023-05-06 16:50 | Permalink

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Maria Pasquala Gutierrez is the daughter of Eleuterio Gutierrez and Maria de San Jose Hurtado.   She is baptized on 23/May/1819 buried on 25/June/1857.   Her husband Jose Maria Muñoz is listed as still living.

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/MVQ3-H5M

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