Hello all.
Been a few years since I last posted here, and glad to see the site is still strong.
Some kind person, whose name I stupidly forgot helped me trace my ancestry a ways back and now I suspect that our origin may have been José "Jusepe" de Ornelas,  In San Juan De Los Lagos, and that his father or grandfather may have been Álvaro de Ornelas y Perestrello, born 1561, in Caniço, Santa Cruz, Madeira, Portugal,  and that his father was João Alvaro De Ornelas E Vasconcelos, born 1538, and that our entire family line begins in Santa María de los Lagos, Intendencia de Guadalajara, Reino de Nueva Galicia, New Spain.
Anyone with better information or who can help  figure out where our name Came from originally  (I believe it cams from Santa Comba De Fornelas, Puebla del Brollón, provincia de Lugo, Galicia, (Spain)  or its  etymology, (I have three separate theories) please feel free to contact me!
Thanks!
Piero Ornelas. Hijo De Raphael. 

Hey all,  

It has been some time since I have posted. I recently asked a granddaughter of my great-great grandfather Antonio Lopez’s sister who is direct living female descendant of Josefa Diaz and Miguel Diaz Montanez (son of Juan Montanez and Sebastiana Diez).  

A bit of background, according to a tree online, Josefa Diaz and Miguel Diaz Montanez wed on April 7, 1641, en Pinos, Zac, Reino de Nueva Galicia. I do not think I have their marriage document. Perhaps her parents are shown on their marriage doc? 

Josefa Diaz is of significant importance to me because not only do I descend from her on this line, but I am also a descendant of her on eleven other lines.  

To this day I have not found a primary source that shows who her parents are. Armando Antunano, Sanchiz Family Tree and Family Search Tree has her as daughter of Juan Diaz de la Huerta and Isabel Martin de Sotomayor. This would make Josefa Diaz granddaughter of Maria de las Ruelas. I am wondering how this was concluded. Or if there is a document that shows Josefa Diaz as daughter of Isabel Martin de Sotomayor.  

La abuela Maria de las Ruelas is my ancestor on seven other lines. In this case, I am wondering if there is a connection to my Josefa Diaz. 

I am extremely interested in figuring this out because there is the possibility of knowing more about the origin of la abuela Maria de las Ruelas through my ancestor Josefa Diaz.  

After taking the 23andme DNA test, my relative’s mtDNA came back as J1c which is of European origin. Even, King Richard III was a descendant of the same J1c female. This means that my great-great grandfather’s maternal line is of haplogroup J1c, and therefore Josefa Diaz would be of mtDNA J1c.  

If my ancestor Josefa Diaz is indeed daughter of Isabel Martin de Sotomayor, and therefore granddaughter of Maria de las Roelas this would infer with all genealogical and genetic evidence as of now that Maria de las Roelas may have been a peninsular woman or a criolla herself. Is there any knowledge of Maria de las Ruelas mtDNA?

Wondering if any of you have more information or knowledge.  

It would be of immense help.  

¡Hola a todos!

Ha pasado un tiempo desde la última vez que publiqué. Recientemente, le pedi a una nieta de mi tatarabuelo, quien es una descendiente maternal directa de Josefa Díaz y Miguel Díaz Montañez (hijo de Juan Montañez y Sebastiana Díaz) que se hiciera una prubea de 23andme.

Un poco de contexto: según un árbol genealógico en línea, Josefa Díaz y Miguel Díaz Montañez se casaron el 7 de abril de 1641 en Pinos, Zacatecas, Reino de Nueva Galicia. No creo tener su documento de matrimonio. Quizás sus padres estén registrados en ese documento.

Josefa Díaz es de gran importancia para mí, ya que no solo desciendo de ella en esta línea, sino que también soy descendiente de ella en once otras líneas.

Hasta el día de hoy, no he encontrado una fuente primaria que muestre quiénes eran sus padres. Armando Antunano,  Sanchiz y el árbol de Family Search la tienen como hija de Juan Díaz de la Huerta e Isabel Martín de Sotomayor. Esto haría a Josefa Díaz nieta de María de las Ruelas. Me pregunto cómo se llegó a esta conclusión o si hay un documento que muestre a Josefa Díaz como hija de Isabel Martín de Sotomayor.

María de las Ruelas es mi antepasada en siete otras líneas. En este caso, me pregunto si hay una conexión con mi Josefa Díaz.

Estoy muy interesado en resolver esto, ya que hay la posibilidad de conocer más sobre el origen de María de las Ruelas a través de mi antepasada Josefa Díaz.

Después de realizar la prueba de ADN de 23andMe, el mtDNA de mi pariente resultó ser J1c, de origen europeo. Incluso, el Rey Ricardo III era descendiente de la misma mujer J1c. Esto significa que la línea materna de mi bisabuelo es del haplogrupo J1c, y por lo tanto, Josefa Díaz sería de mtDNA J1c.

Si mi antepasada Josefa Díaz es realmente hija de Isabel Martín de Sotomayor y, por lo tanto, nieta de María de las Ruelas, esto inferiría con toda la evidencia genealógica y genética hasta ahora que María de las Ruelas pudo haber sido una mujer peninsular o una criolla ella misma. ¿Hay algún conocimiento sobre el mtDNA de María de las Ruelas?

¿Tienen mas información o conocimiento ustedes?

Sería de gran ayuda.

I need help understanding this document. I think it says Juan de Analis and Francisca de Herrera are the maternal grandparents, but then who are Diego Vasquez de Buendia and Juana Velasquez? Are they the great grandparents?

México, Jalisco, registros parroquiales, 1590-2022," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-6F39-P?cc=1874591&wc=3J4S-… : 28 June 2014), Guadalajara > Diócesis de Guadalajara > Capellanías 1685-1855 > image 517 of 615; parroquias Católicas (Catholic Church parishes), Jalisco.

I've had no luck in searching the baptismal records for Purepero and Tlazazalca, Michoacan.  I have seen variations on the name Nomelin, like Lomelin, Numelin, Romelin, etc.  I have attached a copy of their marriage record.  Any insights or suggestions are appreciated.

Gilbert

Recientemente encontré documentos que me ligan con Antonio Vázquez de Mercado y Rafaela Tomasa de Mota. Desciendo de su hijo Manuel Antonio (n. 1743, Pinos, ZAC), y casado el 13 de junio de 1763 en la hacienda de Espíritu Santo, en la jurisdicción de Pinos. Aparece como español, y casa con la mulata Gertrudis Lucinda, hija de Juan de Dios Cisneros y Micaela Gerónima. Me gustaría saber si tienen información acerca de esta familia en la región de Pinos. He visto que otras ramas de mi familia se extienden hacia Ciénega de Mata, Aguascalientes, Asientos, pero hasta ahora no he dado con ninguna coincidencia al respecto de los Vázquez de Mercado.

Adjunto el documento del matrimonio:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-BMCT-C? 

Hello primos,

Does anyone have any idea where I could find property records.  My great grandfather owned a large amount of land in what was Jalisco in the Tepic department.  How did you buy it?  Was it passed to him?  Was it from a Spanish grant?  Anyone have an idea on where I can start?

Best,

AP

After nearly a dozen years of looking for clues, I’ve finally broken down a wall that had perplexed me. My 5g grandparents, Eugenio Rufino Galván and María Dolores Fernández, lived in Sierra de Pinos, Zacatecas, during the last quarter of the 18th century. They also lived part of the time in Real de Catorce, Slp. They first appear in the Pinos parish records on 16 Mar 1776, when their children, Juan Joseph and Maria Josefa, were confirmed. Maria Dolores Fernandez died and was buried 26 Feb 1793 in Pinos; according to her burial record, she was originally from Silao, Gto. Eugenio Galván married a second time, to Maria Micaela Cordoba, on 10 Jun 1793, in Real de Catorce. According to his IM, he was about 53 years old (b. 1740) and he was also from Silao. 
I started dredging the archives of Silao looking for any clues. Though I found some Galvan’s and plenty of Fernandez’s, I could still find no sign of Eugenio Rufino, which is a really unique name. So I put this couple on the backburner. Every once in a while, I’d take them out and rummage around: there was another couple living in Pinos named Felipe de Santiago Galvan and Juana Francisca Xaviera Delgado. They were married 14 Aug 1738 in Guanajuato: he was from Silao and was the son of Bartolome Galvan and Josefa de Chagoya. They were old enough to be Eugenio’s parents, but I could find no contact between Eugenio and this family. There was also a Pablo de Jesus Galvan, who married Maria Asencion Lopez on 5 Feb 1758 in Pinos. He was also from Silao, and he was son of Bartolome Galvan and Juana Maria Sanchez. Again, there was no sign of any contact between Eugenio and this family.
Earlier this summer, I really started dredging the parish archives of Silao, looking through the baptisms, marriages and IMs. I found other persons surnamed Galvan, some who were the children of Bartolome Galvan cc Josefa de Chagoya, others who were children of Bartolome Galvan cc Juana Maria Sanchez aka Rivera. I was later able to determine that this Bartolome Galvan was the same person, and that he had married twice - first to Josefa Chagoya, around 1715, and then to Juana Maria Sanchez, around 1725. 
Throughout this, I could still find no record of a Eugenio Rufino Galvan marrying Maria Dolores Fernandez. But I DID find the IM of one Eugenio Rufino Juarez marrying a Maria Dolores Santoyo, dated 30 Oct 1761. He was the son of Bartolome Juarez and Ana Maria Sanchez, and she was hija de padres no conocidos. Could they possibly be my ancestors? Their first names coincided - and like I said, “Eugenio Rufino” is a rare enough name. And what a coincidence, that his parents were named BARTOLOME Juarez and Ana MARIA SANCHEZ: could they be the same BARTOLOME Galvan and Juana MARIA SANCHEZ? 
So I dug deeper and deeper. And finally, I found a record verifying that Bartolome Galvan and Bartolome Juarez were one and the same person: baptized on 7 Jul 1720 was Paula Josefa daughter of Bartolome Galvan and Josefa de Chagoya; when Paula Josefa married on 1 Aug 1735, she used the surname “Juarez” and she named her parents as Bartolome Juarez and Josefa de Chagoya! With this new information, I found more records, children of Bartolome Juarez and his two wives, finally hitting pay dirt with the baptism of Eugenio Rufino, hijo de Bartolome Juarez y de Juana Maria, 16 Sep 1742 - ¡GOL! ¡GOL! ¡GOL! ¡GOL! I even found the baptism records of the aforementioned Juan Joseph “Juarez” (b. 4 Feb 1762) and Maria Josefa “Juarez” (b 16 Jun 1764), both in Silao.

Just goes to show you: perseverance + patience + hard work = results!

The children of Bartolome Juarez aka Galvan (d. 14 Sep 1759, Silao Gto) cc Josefa de Chagoya (d. 6 Jun 1724, Silao Gto.

1. Juan Joseph Juarez, m. Marcela Quiteria Santos, 30 Jan 1729, Silao Gto.

2. Felipe de Santiago Galvan Chagoya m. Juana Francisca Xaviera Delgado, 14 Aug 1738, Santa Fe, Guanajuato.

3. Dorotea Gertrudis Juarez Chagoya, b. 20 Feb 1718, Silao Gto; im. Juan Nicolas de Castro y Garnica, 24 Sep 1734, Silao Gto; m2. Celedonio Victorino, 2 Mar 1756, Silao Gto.

4. Paula Josefa Galvan aka Juarez Chagoya, b. 7 Jul 1720, Silao Gto; m. Basilio Victoriano Valdes, 1 Aug 1735, Santa Fe, Guanajuato.

5. Maria Gertrudis de la Cruz Chagoya, b. 23 Sep 1722, Silao Gto. Note: on this record, the father is named as "Bartolome de la Cruz". Though I cant say with complete certainty that he is the same person, I can find no other record of a Josefa de Chagoya married to a Bartolome de la Cruz.  

The children of Bartolome Juarez aka Galvan cc Juana Maria Sanchez aka Rivera

1. Joseph Alberto Juarez Sanchez, b. 10 Apr 1726, Silao Gto; m. Maria Nicolasa de Avalos  
2. Maria Candida Susana Juarez Rivera, b. 25 Sep 1728, , Silao Gto.

3. Pablo de Jesus Galvan Sanchez, m. Maria Asencion Lopez, 5 Feb 1758, Pinos, Zac.

4. Joseph Gabriel Galvan Sanchez, b. 25 Mar 1734, Silao Gto.
5. Dario Tomas Juarez Sanchez, b. 7 Jan 1737, Silao Gto; m. Josefa Joaquina Fernandez, 3 Mar 1778, Silao Gto.

6. Luis Seferino Juarez Sanchez, b. 2 Sep 1739, Silao Gto.

7. Eugenio Rufino Juarez aka Galvan, b. 16 Sep 1742, Silao Gto; im1. Maria Dolores Santoyo aka Fernandez, 30 Oct 1761, Silao Gto; m2. Maria Micaela Cordoba, 10 Jun 1793, Catorce Slp.
8. Juana Apolonia Juarez Rivera, b. 23 Feb 1745, Silao Gto.


The children of Eugenio Rufino Juarez aka Galvan cc Maria Dolores Santoyo aka Fernandez

Who is this Bernardino de Sandoval who was born approximately in the 1630s? I am not sure if I am reading the documents right, but it seems Jeromino de Sandoval (Magdalena de Lavezares) has a brother name Bernardino.

From the first section of documents, 

1. Jeromino de Sandoval is the son of Catalina Cortes - image 129 of 512
2. Juan and Cristobal de Sandoval are brothers, sons of Jeromino de Sandoval - image 130 of 512

Then from second section of documents,  

3. I believe it says Bernardino de Sandoval is the uncle of Juan de Sandoval - image 325 of 512, left side, third line from the bottom.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-6SH1-F?i=324&cat=278176

From the 1649 padrones, there are 4 Bernardinos present in Nochistlan. 

1. Bernardino de Isla - decreased by 1690
2. Bernardino de Sandoval, son of Nicolas de Sandoval - deceased by 1690.
3. Bernardino de Isla - N
4. Bernardino de Isla - N

Hi everyone! I have a rather specific question. I am having an insight at my third great grandfather (i hope that's right) because I found that he was born out of wedlock in 1806. The registry literally says "legitimate son (I mean) illegitimate son of...", which is not only hilarious but puzzling. Two years later, in 1808, his parents did get married, however, I didn't find any dispensa, AND the registry does say the mother was a maiden. So I wonder what could've happened. Has anyone come across something similar? I'm guessing if they maybe kept it a secret? Also both parents are rather old; the father was 40 and a widow, and the mother was 30, never married. Being a small town in Nochistlán, it seems a bit off. Thanks in advance for your theories!

Hola prim@s,

This is a group of documents regarding some lands belonging to Andrea Gonzalez Bermejo, wife of Cristobal Barburen, of Teocaltiche: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-6S93-C?i=191&cat=…

The lands were originally granted to Martin Navarro in October 1575 (image 209 btm right); he signed them over to his yerno, Benito de Yslas, as part of the dowry of his daughter, Juana Navarro (image 210 right). She in turn, (beginning on image 195) donated them to Antonio Gonzalez de Rubalcava and to Antonio de Bastidas, husbands of her granddaughters, Juana de Yslas and Magdalena Lozano, respectively, who were daughters of her daughter, Petronila de Yslas, married to Pedro Lozano. The donations were made in 1630, so Juana de Yslas and Magdalena Locano could have been born as late as 1618; you can do the math to figure out the approximate ages of everyone else involved. 
Tantalizing, ain’t it? While it can’t be said with complete certainty that the Martin Navarro spoken of is the same who was married to Petronila de Moctezuma, or that this Benito de Yslas is the same who was father of Magdalena de Lavezaris and Maria de Yslas, the names, places, and dates do appear to match up (on image 210, bottom left, there is even mention of a Francisco Gonzalez and his wife, Maria ? de Yslas, who could be the natural daughter of Benito de Yslas and mestiza half-sister of Magdalena de Lavezaris and Maria de Yslas …). And at least we now know more about the Juana Navarro who died in Teocaltiche on 28 Dec 1651.
What do you think? 
Thanks to Valentina Veor, who shared this document at Rose Wischnewsky’s Descendants of Petronila de Moctezuma Facebook group.

Saludos!
Manny Díez Hermosillo