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FamilySearch blue boxes on Images

Suddenly every image of the Tlaltenango baptisms 1888-1889 on FamilySearch have blue boxes, outlining and sometimes obscuring the text.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-4294-FZ?cc=1804458&wc=3PSF…

If you download the image, it is a clean image without the blue boxes, but I cannot find any way to view a clean image without the blue boxes online.

Translation help!

I would like for someone who understands Spanish better than I do to look at a document and tell me what it is about. It is about my ancestors Pedro and Juan Casillas. I believe it’s their baptism document, but the abbreviation also make translating these documents harder for me.

Thanks in advance!

Kimberly

Here 1648 Valparaiso, Zac Census Need help on ownership of property in 1648

I have a 1648 Census of Valparaiso, Zacatecas, Mexico which is 20 leguas from Fresnillo, Zacatecas.

As well as a census of Rancho Carboneras, which is 5 leguas from Fresnillo. Zacatecas, Mexico.

Attached is the census. Can someone help me on my ancestors "Joan Angon" who is listed first on the list of the Valparaiso Census in regards to why is he listed as first on the list and did he own a ranch right there?

His son Esteban Angon is listed first on the Rancho Carboneras ranch that is 15 leguas away from Valparaiso.

Ok...so here in familysearch file of Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco, Mexico is a 1632 - 1700 Cofradia archive. I already read it and it is like a diary of Joan Angon's ranch starting in 1632 where there is a Cofradia called, "La Purisma de La Limpia Concepcion." Midway through the archive is then shows Esteban Angon owning a Estancia "Rio Chico." Today Rico Chico is at the spot where Rancho Carboneras would had been in 1648.

My question is about Joan Angon? Did he own a rancho at Valparaiso or did he "own" Valparaiso in 1648? Today at the plaza of Valparaiso there is a church called "La Purisma De La Concepcion." I wonder if that was the Cofradia that was a Joan Angon's rancho as mentioned in the 1632 - 1700 archive? Can someone help me about ownership in 1648 at Valparaiso?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-FSS1-7G?wc=3JHM-C66%3A…

Note: One Legua = one hours walk by foot. By car today that would be 8 - 10 minutes.

YDNA IP37 surname Gutierrez - Mystery

Happy early New Year! primos from Jalisco Posting this in case members have clues on some deadends in my Jalisco genealogy. This is my dad's side of the house. He passed away this past summer but I had his DNA completed. Y DNA: IP37 and surname: Gutierrez.

The earliest documented ancestor I found on his dad's paternal side is Victor Gutierrez (1810-?) married to Vicenta Vasquez (1820-?) both from Comanjo Jalisco. Their child, Modesto Gutierrez (1845-1897) was then born in Cieneguilla, Aguascalientes and eventually married Zenona Gutierrez (1850-?) from San Marcos Guerrero I believe). Their child was Juan Gutierrez (1876-1930) who later married Maria Cipriana Tabarez (1880-1930) both from Aguascalientes and their son was my dad's paternal GF, Felipe Gutierrez (1899-1965), also born in Aguascalientes.

What is interesting is that my dad's Y DNA is not common in the surname Gutierrez. I could not test his brothers' DNA or any other male relatives as they had all passed away but I tested his sister (my aunt) and they are brother and sister so they had the same parents. Common surnames with this Y DNA is Flores or Valdez de Flores. It is not impossible to have other names but some thoughts could be a relative changed their name. I realize this is a big mystery so I am putting it out there in case any of this sounds remotely familiar.

On a side note, Zenona Gutierrez' family all originate from Jalisco. Although not related to the YDNA side, if anyone has any relatives you can share - her parents were Josef V Gutierrez and Urbana Diaz (circa 1800). It appears Josef's parents were Vizente Gutierrez (1766) and Maria Josefa Aguilera (1778).

Thanks for any help!

Son of Francisco Suárez de Ibarra and Isabel Pimentel

I’m trying to find out if Alferez Real Francisco Suárez y de Ibarra’s and Isabel Pimentel’s son, Miguel, born in 1631, married in 1656 to a woman named Agustina de Zúñiga y Mendoza.
Here is the baptism certificate of Miguel, Francisco Suárez de Ibarra’s son, and the marriage certificate of Miguel and Agustina, which does not mention the name of the parents. I would like to know if they are the same person. Does anybody have any reference or source? Thank you

Translation needed

Hello,

I was able to locate the attached wedding certificate for my great-grandparents, though it's in Spanish and need help with the translation. Also, I'm searching for their parents, is this sort of information listed on the document and if so, what does it say?

Many thanks! Karen