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I haven't checked into the census, but I plan on searching the 1900 and 1910 census for Cameron County (Texas). But try this link and see if it helps.
http://www.dallaslibrary.org
A. Garza
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does anyone have info on the availability of other 20th century census
other than the 1930 census that can be found in the LDS Family History
Library Catalog?
I found this book and was wondering if there is a 1900 and 1910 and 1920
Census someplace that we can somehow access?
thanks, joseph ps: Location Main library at University of Arizona, Tucson. Call # HA762 .A5 Author Mexico. Dirección General de Estadística. Title 6 censo de población, 1940. LOCATION CALL NO. STATUS Main Oversize HA762 .A5 Vol. 24 IN LIBRARY Main Oversize HA762 .A5 v.31 IN LIBRARY Other title Sexto censo de población, 1940.
Publisher [México] Secretaría de la economía nacional, Dirección general
de estadística, 1943-1948.
Subjects Mexico -- Census, 1940.
Contents [1] Aguascalientes. Baja California, territorios norte y
sur.--[2] Campeche.--[3] Chiapas.--[4] Chihuahua.--[5] Coahuila.--[6]
Colima.--[7] Distrito Federal.--[8] Durango.--[9] Guanajuato.--[10]
Guerrero.--[11] Hidalgo.--[12]
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Steven; I read your entry with
interest. What you said and the examples you gave are more typical with what I have found. It takes alot of detective work and patience. Like you, I have never ever seen man just take his wife name as his own. Jose Macias
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Hector : I too have seen the examples that you
give. I was asking Angie where she read, "but couldn't remember where" she may have read about that the husband would change his name to his wife's. It seems logical the way she explained it, I just don't remember seeing it. When a woman comes in to have the child baptised and she uses her own last name because the the child was "hijo Natural de". Is it possible that that is the case when I see "hijo legalmente de Juan Iniguiz and luisa Iniguiz" ? Angie brought a very good point and I guess that they could do anything they wanted when the child was born. It is just that I haven't seen a case where it was done. If a grandfather was of a higher cast, I wonder if they would not be hesitant to have the son-in-law take their surname. By what right? A surname was very important then and not to be tifled with. Amoung the lower classes it didn't matter I must guess, if at all. I found Angies comments and others really |
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I just thought I would add my own 2 cents worth
here......If you are tracing any ancestors into the
States, keep in mind that "name switching" may in fact
be in play. Custom in the U.S. is that Mario Sanchez
Garcia is in fact Mario Garcia. I have seen this
numerous times. In fact, I know of a common day
situation in which there is an individual named Jose
Chavez Munoz that came to the States and has had to
conform to this custom because some Authority figure
told him his name was Jose Munoz and not Jose Chavez.
He was forced to marry under the name of Munoz because
that is what all his legal documents said his name
was. His children are now Munoz - Not Chavez.
Joseph, as for the name Maldonado I have only seen it
spelled with "de" and with an "ñ". Good luck!
-Esther
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Wow, I did not realize this would be such a hot topic!
Now as far as a husband adopting his wife's surname as his own, I have NEVER, ever seen this happen. I all my time as a researcher, historian, and genealogist, since 1992, I have not seen this phenomenon.
Now it may be the case where the children, even the males, like has been said adopt their mother's surname. So the child of, for example, José Sánchez and María Pérez, Juan Sánchez Pérez, goes by Juan Pérez more than Juan Sánchez. Thus Juan Pérez will marry and have children that become Pérez, thus abandoning their true paternal surname, Sánchez. But what I've never seen happening is that José Sánchez would adopt his wife's surname, Pérez as his own. That would be unheard of.
Traditionally, and this has been a long-standing tradition, women keep their own surname all their lives, even after marriage. To continue using the previous fictitious couple, José Sánchez and María Pérez, had they lived 175-350 years ago, María
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Hello, I see a lot of explanations for this " naming pattern". I know in some cases that I have personally seen,
i.e. A. father does'nt marry the mother - the son/daughter will decide to carry the mothers name.
B. father abandons mother and family - children decide to carry mothers name instead of fathers.
C. father committs a crime - Family decides to carry mothers name instead, to avoid stigma in society
D. father has mulitiple children out of wedlock - mother and/or children decide to carry maternal name.
E. even if father comes back to claim children, mother and or children will not permit name change, back or to fathers name.
F. Might not be fathers fault at all
G. Maybe influential parents, Grandparents registered the child with out the fathers permission in the maternal name and not the parental, for what ever the reason might be.
H. I know of one instance that the maternal parents only had one daughter, and no sons, so that the maternal
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As I re-read what I wrote here... I realize what I said may not have
been clear. Therefore just to clarify....{once again}
What I meant by "the males in the family took the wife's surname",
was that the male children took their mother's surname. And, "the
females took the husband's surname", was that the female children
took their father's surname.
Hope this makes more sense...
Angie.
P.S. Perhaps I need to get change for my two cents...
--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "aajay1073" wrote:
> I read somewhere, {and I can't remember where, but I tried looking
> for my source for this information}, that if the wife's family was
of
> a higher status or surname was 'better' {in using measurements
during
> that time period}, then the males in the family took the wife's
> surname which would then pass to their children. And the females
> took the husband's surname which would get passed to their children
> as the secondary surname.
>
> In terms of
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Just to clarify the example that I read...using your example... The husband doesn't neccessarily have to take on the surname of his wife's father. But in your example, you have a Carlos Garcia Mendez and a Carlita Garcia Mendez, two siblings. Carlos gets married and has children and on his wedding records and his children's baptismal records he is referred to as Carlos Mendez, basically dropping the Garcia. His children then become Jose Mendez Lopez, where Lopez is his wife's surname. Carlita on the other hand, when she gets married and has children she is referred to as Carlita Garcia. Her children are then Jose Lopez Garcia, where Lopez is her husband's surname. So these two siblings end up having different surnames. Thanks, Angie. P.S. Still looking for my source... --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Jose Macias"wrote: > Angie; Though I can see the logic of what you say you may have read, I have never seen this to be the case in taking the surname
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Thank you for your input. I hadn't thought
about the changes in tradition. thank you. I can see the logic. I was just saying that I had never seen it in the names that I had researched. I wonder how you can tell if that had happened. Like I said, I had never heard of it and have never seen it in practice in the northern hemisphere. But I am doing the 1800's and that is why. I hope that here is a respone Jose
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