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Trip to Nochistlan

Deena,
 
One of the most important items to prepare before you drive across into Mexico is to check your auto insurance coverage.  Chances are your company will not cover you while in Mexico.   I suggest you get on the internet and just type  "Sanborn" for the search.  Sanborn is a company that has been offering insurance and travel information for Mexico for many years.  Their services include, strip maps and travelogs for your trip just like the AAA provides.   I used them years ago and it was well worth the cost.   The gas station situation then was a real gamble with poorly marked pumps for the various fuels (leaded, unleaded, etc).  I'm sure things have improved a little.  Perhaps someone in the group has been there recently and can provide up to date information.
       
Ray Jauregui
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 8/8/2004 8:42:30 PM
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Trip to Nochistlan

What would be the best way to travel to

Trip to Nochistlan

Deena,
 
We plan on going this September. We have been 3 times previously. We go by plane, fly into Guadalajara or Aguascalientes. Guadalajara has lower air fares and more flights than Aguascalientes but the Aguas airport and city as it's often called is not as crowded and is easier to get in and out of.
 
As I live in Northern California I have driven once and it was an arduous 4 day trip via Arizona, New Mexico into El Paso Texas and through Coahihuila, Chihuahua, Durango and through to southern Zacatecas cutting in through parts of Northern Jalisco.

 I for one would never drive it again but it was a good experience to do it once. If you need more detailed driving information I can look it up. The last two times we hired a driver at the airport in Guadalajara. He could make more money in one week as our driver than he could as a shuttle bus driver at the airport for two months. We rented a car and he drove us around to Nochistlan, Tlachichila and surrounding towns. It was great!!

W

Updated information

Dear Ranchos Group,

I have finished my summer courses and have had time to
sit and sort through some of the information that my
mother brought back to me about a month ago.  She
visited one of her great aunts that still resides in
Sain Alto and obtained some useful information. 

I even got some pictures of my great grandmother
Marcela Castrejon, great aunt Maria Sierra that lived
in Moorpark, California, and my great grandfather,
Pablo Gonzalez Monsivais.  Words can not describe the
joy I felt to have these in my possession.  I can
really see so many features that have been passed on
to me and others in my extended family. I don't have a
scanner but will buy one soon and upload them into the
pictures section for all to see.

All the information is strictly word of mouth and
recollection on the part of my mother's great aunt and
other various relatives.  I plan to seek the documents
to back up the information.  In the meantime, I have
typed up the names of my relatives, some are

Trip to Nochistlan

Deena,

Do you plan to drive? How long do you plan to travel?
  
I think the trip is somewhat long, but I am not too
sure. If you have never traveled to Mexico by way of
car, then I suggest you visit a AAA office if you are
a member.  

I obtained a book from them and it was very handy when
my husband and I went three years ago.  AAA also gave
us a detailed map of Mexico that I just gave to my
husband's cousin yesterday. He is going to Magdalena ,
Jalisco.  

I looked through the book I have, Mexico Travel Book,
2001 edition by AAA.  It has a map of the highways and
 approximate times between cities.  I calculated the
trip from San Diego to Zacatecas, the capital city, to
be roughly 34-36 hours long, depending on the route.
Depending on the border town you wish to go through. 
This is what the book tells me, however, I have never
traveled this route.

You can travel down the west coast of Mexico to
Mazatlan and cut across to Durango (Mazatlan to
Durango is about 5 and a half hrs) and

Trip to Nochistlan

What would be the best way to travel to Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico from
southern California?  Can you give me approximate distances and/or hours
involved in each leg of the trip?  I seriously hope to make the trip with my
husband in February/March, 2005, on our way to Oaxaca.

~Deena Ortiz~



Addresses to Civil Records in Mexico


thanks to Jonathan Walker:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/7016/zacatecas/Address.htm#Index



The state capitol registrars for civil records are listed to assist you
with your research concerning certificates of birth, marriages, or death
of persons from the Republic of México. If the document that you
need is located in another town or village of the Mexican state in
question, you can try to obtain the address for the civil registrar in
the province by writing to one of the state capitols listed below.


To inquiry about a certificate of birth, marriage, or death in any of
the following listed states of the Republic of México, write in Spanish
to the appropriate civil registrar to ask about the fee for searching
your question and obtaining the document needed.


Index

Aguascalientes, Baja California Norte, Baja California Sur, Campeche,
Chiapas, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Colima, Distrito Federal, Durango,
Estado de México, Guanajuato, Guerrero, Hidalgo

Your Research

This will do for now. I'll look into it. Thanks for your assistance.
 I'll be in touch!!!

Guillermo.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan Walker"  
wrote:
> Guillermo,
> 
>  
> 
> You mentioned in a earlier message that your ancestors came form the
> following areas:
> 
>  
> 
> They are mostly from the area of San Jos de Gracia, Atotonilco el 
> Alto, Ocotln, Arandas and the ranchos of Ortiguilla, Ojo de Agua de 
> Latillas, La Muralla, Barranquilla and El Salvador.
> 
>  
> 
> The Family History Library, records for the following areas:
> 
>  
> 
> Mexico, Jalisco, San José de la Gracia
> 
>           Registro Civil:
> 
>  
> 
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.
asp?di
> 
splay=titledetails&titleno=132742&disp=Registros+civiles+del+municipio
+de+Te
> pat> Registros civiles del municipio de Tepatitlán de Morelos, 1866-
1997
> Tepatitlán de Morelos (Jalisco). Registro Civil
> 
>  
> 
> Mexico, Jalisco, Atotonilco el Alto
> 
>

Your Research

Guillermo,

 

You mentioned
in a earlier message that your ancestors came form the following areas:

 

They are mostly from the area of San Jos de Gracia,
Atotonilco el


Alto, Ocotln, Arandas and the ranchos of
Ortiguilla, Ojo de Agua de


Latillas, La Muralla, Barranquilla and El Salvador.

 

The Family
History Library, records for the following areas:

 

Mexico, Jalisco, San José
de la Gracia

          Registro Civil:

          Registros civiles del municipio de Tepatitlán de
Morelos, 1866-1997
 Tepatitlán de Morelos
(Jalisco). Registro Civil

 

Mexico, Jalisco,
Atotonilco el Alto

          Church Records:

          Registros parroquiales, 1699-1958
 Iglesia Católica (Atotonilco el Alto, Jalisco)

          Registro Civil:

          Registros civiles del municipio de Atotonilco el
Alto, Jalisco, 1868-1998
 Atotonilco el Alto
(Jalisco).
bold"> Registro Civil color:black">

 

Mexico, Jalisco,
Ocotlán

          color:black">Church Records:

            Registros parroquiales, 1610-1958  Iglesia

Your Research

Hi, Jonathan. I am researching the Los Altos de
Jalisco area and I am doing it from Los Angeles.

You think you can help?

Guillermo.

--- Jonathan Walker  wrote:

> Guillermo,
> 
> Out of curiousosity, what areas are you researching?
> And where are you
> doing, your research at?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> Experienced Mexico Researcher: www.mexicanfhr.com
> http://www.mexicanfhr.com/>  or mexicanfhr@...
> 
>  
> 
> 



		
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