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NuestrosRanchos Website - High-Traffic

All,

As one of several administrators of this NuestrosRanchos website, I recently began summarizing stats of how often this website is accessed.  

Daily member logins are only a small portion of how often this site is visited and utilized.  NuestrosRanchos is considered a high-traffic website.

The large number of website visits ( shared below) are a tribute to those original members that founded this site back in 2003. 

The founding members obviously recoqnized the value and need for sharing historical and genealogical information related to Jalisco and adjacent regions. As a result the NuestrosRanchos website is considered very popular. This is accomplished without ads or monthly user fees, which makes this even more impressive.  Even though our registered member base is considered modest (1,750 members), I personally appreciate the efforts of all of our members, and the discussions and input that has been shared over the last 23 years. 

Admin (Lee)

Statistics for: nuestrosranchos.org     

Server Down late 17th-Early 18th - Vendor Problem - Back Up at 2:10am

All,

The NuestrosRanchos website was down from approximately 11:30pm-2:10am due to connectivity issues at the Dallas Location of the VPS vendor we are using.  The Dallas location is rarely down for any extended period of time. The Vendor (SSDNodes) has multiple locations, but the Dallas location was the one that impacted our website.  I will continue to monitor. If anyone was trying to login late pm on the 17th or early am on the 18th, but could not login, this is the reason why you could not login.

Lee

Update Status

All,

The NR site software update failure (and temporary complete site failure) was due to a faulty update software script.  The script process was updated to allow for the update to the latest version at about 10:00 am today (Arizona Time).  The NR site is now up to date.  Thanks for everyone's patience while this matter was resolved.

Lee

Site down - Failed Update

All,

The site has been down intermittently since yesterday evening (7-1-2026) at about 8:00pm (Arizona Time). This was due to a failed software update that corrupted the NuestrosRanchos database. 

This site performs weekly updates. At first I reverted back to the last good update on 6-25-2026.  However, I rechecked backups from the server that the NuestrosRanchos system is running on, and found a more current backup from 7-1-2026.  

It took about 45 minutes this morning to restore the site.  

If you had any posts/comments from early morning on 7-1-2026 until 7-2-2026 (7:30am - Arizona time), please recheck and repost, if necessary.  Will be checking into reason why update failed, and after solving issue, will attempt another update to the NuestrosRanchos system in the next few days.

Lee

NuestrosRanchos Server issues

All,

Over the past week or so, the NuestrosRanchos server has been experiencing unexpected performance issues, including unexpected server shutdowns. The issue has been tracked to hardware issues with the Virtual Private Server (VPS) vendor.  The vendor has just moved this server to another area of their system, which should eliminate the recent performance problems. Our admin staff will continue to monitor the system to ensure the performance issues have been resolved.  

Admin staff

Miembro Nuevo

¡Saludos a todos! Me llamo Jonathan Mendoza y soy servidor de todos ustedes me apasiona la búsqueda de los antepasados personalmente mi meta es descubrir mi pasado judio sefardi y saber de que parte de españa vinieron mis antepasados de apellido ruiz de los cobos 

He llegado hasta este punto a base de documentos y de la ayuda que me han brindado unos buenos familiares y amigos mios que menciono por nombre (Jesus Mendoza y Aaron Mendoza) ellos y su servidor tenemos los mismos antepasados en comun sigo en la búsqueda de mas documentos que revelen otros detalles aunque se ha vuelto mas difícil entre mas retrocedo en el tiempo 

En cualquier caso sigo adelante y si en algo puedo ayudarles con todo gusto lo haré muchas gracias por haberme aceptado 

https://www.nuestrosranchos.org/JonathanMendoza1998

 

RA Ricci

Does anyone have Rick Ricci's current email address?

Joseph Puentes 

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Hello Joseph,

I sent you an email message with my new email, and an explanation of the issues with the old email.   Please read it and contact me when you can.

Rick A. Ricci

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Hello Joseph,

I sent you an email message with my new email, and an explanation of the issues with the old email.   Please read it and contact me when you can.

Rick A. Ricci

New Member

Hello everyone,

My name is Edward Rojano, a new member and I wanted to introduce myself.

I started researching my family tree just a few years ago, specifically my direct paternal lineage from Jalisco. I didn’t really know much of our family history past my great grandfather. So I started with my grandfather, gathering names of parents and grandparents from birth, marriage and death registrations on Family Tree. Slowly, my family tree started coming together and as you can see below, I belong to the Cornejo family from Jalostotitlan, in the Los Altos region of what is now Jalisco.

Lately, I have been researching and trying to obtain more information on Antonio Cornejo Riojano, born in 1658 as per Dr. Mariano González-Leal in tomo III of Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia. I have been unable to find documents which definitively name and show Alonso Cornejo as his father, as is believed. Also, I have been trying to find the source his Riojano surname that was often used along with

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Saludos Edward y Leonardo,

Saludos Leonardo y Edward,


After reading the nobilario, I had more questions in my mind that led me back to Leonardo’s and Edward’s questions regarding the Osorio ancestry, so I went back to my notes and did more research.   I had originally told Edward that I believed that the Rojano/Riojano surname came from a “de Rojas” ancestry in our Osorio line.  But when I went back to look at out ancestral line with Maria Fernandez de Villalobos as Pedro Alvarez de Osorio’s wife I couldn’t find the Rojas line.   Then Leonardo questioned the ancestry.  Those thoughts were lingering as a cloud as I read the nobilario.  So yes the line starts with Juan Alvarez Osorio and his wife Aldonza de Guzman, but the nobilario doesn’t mention the wives names of Pedro Alvarez Osorio and Alvar Perez Osorio.   So I did more research which is hard on this family because there were so many Rodrigo, Alvaro, and Pedro Osorios in the family.  And it turns out that I needed to merge some of

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Hello Edward,


Martin Lopez Osorio’s family tree goes much farther in records according to an old book I read many years ago.  The book states the the lineage can be found in another book that is at the Smithsonian Library.   One day I will make it out there and look for that book.  

You and I are fifth cousins.  

Rick A. Ricci

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Hello Rick Ricci, fifth cousins that’s so cool, thanks so much for reaching out. I had previously read information you had posted when I had been looking into Carlos Lomelín and the Lomellini family, thank you for all that.

Yes, with Martin Lopez Osorio, I was able to trace him back to the Osorio family with the help of a book I purchased titled, El Nobilario de Martín López Osorio by Dr. Clevy Lloyd Strout 1980 and also from a publication titled Los Osorio: Un Linaje de más de Mil Años al Servicio de La Corona by medieval genealogist and historian Jaime Salazar y Acha, as well as another book I found on the Osorio family that I can’t remember right now. Below is what I was able to gather from my direct paternal lineage. I will upload some of the items in my folder here if that helps. I am still trying to figure out the website. Thank you.

Generation:

14. Martín Lopez Osorio (also known as Lope de Osorio) Conquistador de la Nueva España: born about 1493 in Sevilla, Spain; died

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Hello Edward,


Thank you for the information.   I have done much work on the Osorio family and I was hoping to make the connection to the Cornejo lineage by going to Washington DC to get that information that you sent me.   I would like to get a hold of El Nobilario de Martín López Osorio by Dr. Clevy Lloyd Strout 1980 and the article you mentioned.   Do you know where I can get my hands on them?


I also descend from the Osorio family through my Reynoso ancestry.

Thanks,

Rick A. Ricci,     

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Hi Rick,

Of course, thank you! That’s so cool, it is such an interesting history that of the Osorio family and their role in the history of León, the reconquista and the arrival to what is now Mexico. I feel like we are just starting to scratch the surface.

Yes, the Osorio article by Jaime Salazar y Acha I have uploaded the PDF in my folder here along with a few other items.

In regard to the Nobilario, during my research, I just happened to come across the used book on AbeBooks earlier this year. I just searched and don’t see any for sale unfortunately. I don’t know if this was ever published. It appears to be an original final draft, as the book has corrections made by hand and whiteout on the pages. In the book he states the work consists of one single manuscript, which he cataloged in 1962 and I believe is still housed at the Thomas Gilcrease Institute of American History and Art in Tulsa, OK, that bears the number 106 in a catalog of Hispanic Documents at the Institute.

In the

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Hello Edward,

I have studied the Osorio family for many decades.   A big part of my research includes the Wife of #18) Pedro Alvarez Osorio, Maria Fernandez de Villalobos. Her ancestry includes the royal Houses of Europe (Spain, England, Germany, etc).   This line of ancestry includes Saint Matilda (Mathilde) of Ringleheim.  I will include her in a book that I am writing for my daughter of my ancestors and ancestors siblings that have been canonized as saints.  King Pedro sent the order to kill Pedro Alvarez Osorio, so he killed the husband of his not to distant cousin Maria Fernandez de Villalobos.  Her close relationship to the king is documented.

Thank you so much for this information.  I believe a copy of this “Nobilario” is the book housed in Washington DC. I no longer have to go to Washington DC to track down this information.  Over many years, I kept repeating to myself that “next year I will go to Washington DC and find the Osorio lineage of my Cornejo line.”  But something has

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Hello Rick,

Thanks so much for the info, that is so interesting. Oh wow, so you have pretty extensive knowledge of the Osorio family! The medieval period in Spanish history is so fascinating. To me, that period and its continuation into what is now Mexico and the meeting of the new world and old is very interesting.  Especially now, knowing our ancestors played a part in all of that. That is a great idea about leaving a book for your daughter. As I have been learning of my family history the last few years, I have thought about taking all my findings and compiling it for my children so they can learn and know all of this.

I am glad I could help with the Nobiliario of Martín López. I know how that goes, I’ve been wanting to go to Mexico City to get to know the city and see some of the historical sites, but same as with you, something comes up haha.

Thank you for that info about the Riojano/Cornejo surname. Who is it that married into the de Rojas family and where did they come from? I am

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Saludos Edward,

I saw that someone had already added the Osorio lineage to the Cornejo line on familysearch.  I haven’t checked it all out yet but I did find one common mistake.  Many genealogists have mistaken two cousins with the same name and the same title.    I am sending you an explanation of the mistake and the right lineage.   

Giron to Fernandez de Villalobos

I. Gonzalo Rodríguez Girón (b. 1160) de Fernando III recibe el señorío de Autillo en 1221. Casó con Sancha Rodríguez

II. Gonzalo González Girón, canciller mayor de Fernando III. Casó con Teresa Arias Quesada, hija de Arias González de Quesada y de María Froilaz.

III. Berenguela González Girón, señora de Autillo, quien casó con Lope Ruiz de Haro, el chico, II señor de La Guardia y de Bailén, hijo de Lope Díaz de Haro III, señor de Vizcaya y de Urraca de León.

IV. María Díaz de Haro, señora de Autillo, casó con Ruy Gil de Villalobos, señor de Villalobos.

[Aquí es donde seguimos dos líneas. Ruy Gil De Villalobos y María Diaz De

Thank You Lee! ! !

When everything is working right it is soooo easy to take the website for granted. But just let some little thing go wrong and suddenly those of us that appreciate the site for what it is are quickly brought back to reality. I guess what I'm trying to say is that one individual in the group is mainly responsible for keeping the sight humming along so nicely, Lee Ingram. Lee has donated countless (well I'm sure he could count them) hours to revive and act as the keeper of the NuestrosRanchos.org website. I so much appreciate you and your efforts Lee and saying THANK YOU doesn't feel like enough, but here goes anyway THANK YOU.

Joseph Puentes

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Thanks for the kind words Joseph!   There is so much info that has been contributed to this site by the membership for over 22 years now!  I am a little bit selfish in wanting to keep the site running, so others can enjoy it (and learn) as much as I do. There are some excellent researchers that participate via this site; and I am always grateful to contribute where I can. 

 

Estrada

Hello I'm a new member. My family is from Zacatecas Mexico. I'm am looking for information on my paternal line. Juan Estrada was born in 1831 to Luisa Ramíres. His father is unknown and he died in Zacatecas Mexico on May 8th, 1863. I was just wondering were the Estrada last name came from because I thought at that time children took the mother's last name. So I am just a little confused about where the Estrada last name came from. 

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Could not find a marriage record for Juan Estrada and Francisca Hernandes, but did find at least 4 children of theirs.

Mariano Estrada, Simona Estrada, Maria Matilde Estrada, and Claro Estrada.   Of these 4 children only Claro Estrada's baptism record was found. This record not only provided the names of his parents, Juan Estrada and Francisca Hernandes, but the names of his paternal/maternal grand-parents. In this record Juan's father was listed as Mariano Estrada and his mother as Luisa Reyes [Surname Ramires was stated in the death record]. Francisca's father was noted as Marcelino Hernandes and mother was Apolonia Medina (Surname in other records noted as Almansa).  The link for Claro's baptism record is listed below. 

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-4KS6-L?cc=1804458

Now that we know who the parents of Juan Estrada are, we begin looking for links for Mariano Estrada and wife Luisa Reyes/Ramires

Luckily one baptism record was found for Maria Epifania del Refugio Estrada

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First of all welcome to the site!  The information you provided leaves very little to go on, but I will try to see if the Juan Estrada you have mentioned is from your family branch. My initial curiosity was in looking for any Juchipila "Estrada" family connections, which it does not appear there are any. 

The only Juan Estrada that died on 8 May 1863 in Zacatecas, Mexico is of Guadalupe, Zacatecas, Mexico, listed in Civil Records (See Link below). Juan Estrada was listed as a bricklayer, 32 years old, and it was stated within the death record that he was originally from San Joseph de Yslas, which is now Genaro Codina (Zacatecas). I believe early records are also found for this general area in Ojo Caliente (Zacatecas), Panuco (Zacatecas), and Calera Victor Rosales (Zacatecas).  Nearly all of these locations have incomplete genealogy records, so gathering information can be tough.  The death record also mentioned that Juan Estrada left a widow in Francisca Hernandes(z). The officials