Nuestros Ranchos Site

Maria de la Luz Montejano Hilton has published a very good index of 
all the 17th and 18th century films that includes a very good 
synopsis of each entry so you don't even have to go see the film once 
you find a name in order to get the genealogy information from it.


Montejano Hilton, Mariìa de la Luz. 
Sagrada mitra de Guadalajara, antiguo obispado de la Nueva Galicia : 
expedientes de la serie de matrimonios extractos siglos XVII-XVIII / 
Mariìa de la Luz Montejano Hilton. 
 Meìxico, D.F. : M. Montejano Hilton, 1999. 
 xxi, 803 p. ; 28 cm. 


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
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> Edward Serros wrote:
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> >--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Susana Leniski"  
wrote:
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> >>I also travel to Mexico nearly every year to visit family, many 
times for an extended time. 
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> >During these periods I try to allocate time for geneological 
research. In a few of these 
> >trips, I have researched historical data at the

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--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Susana Leniski"  wrote:
> I also travel to Mexico nearly every year to visit family, many times for an extended time. 
During these periods I try to allocate time for geneological research. In a few of these 
trips, I have researched historical data at the "Archivo General de la Nacion", and "Instituto 
Nacional de Antropologia e Historia" in Mexico City.... Church Dispensations from 
Guadalajara (Sagrada Mitra- Arzobispado de Nueva Galicia). I will be submitting some of 
these lines shortly.


Susana,

I am interested in your comments on the "Archivo General de la Nacion" since it appears to 
have much information not available in the Mormon repository. A copy of the Archivo is 
available locally at the University of California San DIego, not too far from my La Jolla 
home. (I hope it is there, as advertised).

My questions for you re: Archivo. How easy is it to use? Is it indexed in any way? Did you 
find much information regarding

Susana:

I have a couple of lineages that go back to the Carlos de Godoy 
family in Jerez.  I have actually not been able to get further back 
than the fact that these two people (who are both my ancestors) were 
siblings born circa 1630? but I don't have their parents' names:

1. Antonio CARLOS DE GODOY 
2. Catalina CARLOS DE GODOY 

http://www.ramosfamily.org/nextgen/getperson.php?
personID=I96&tree=RamosPinedo

I also have a lot of De La Torre lineages from Zacatecas, which you 
can search for in that same database.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Susana Leniski"  
wrote:
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> Hello everyone:
> 
> 
> 
> I'm the newest member of the group. My name is Susana Leniski. I 
was born and raised in Mexico City, Mexico. I attended "Universidad 
Metropolitana" in Mexico City where I majored in International 
Business. Following my education, I worked for various US based firms 
in Mexico. In 1990, I moved to the United States following my 
husband's career and have lived in

Here is the translation of your "chiste" Jose.

The father of a wealthy family sends one of his older sons to the U.S. so that he could learn English.  The son went to one of the best
schools in the country and after a while the father calls him and asks him, "So how is it going with your English?"  The son responds, "Gosh, Dad, I can't seem to learn English and I am
forgetting my Spanish."  Then the Dad tells him anxiously, "Well you had better come back then son, lest you become a mute."

Agradecemos mucho que hagas el esfuerzo de
escibirnos en ingles.  A mi me cuesta bastante escribir en espanol tambien, pero sigamos
haciendolo como podamos y asi vamos mejorando, no...

Hello;

My name is Jose Alfredo De La Torre Romo, yes I am related to the saint Toribio Romo martir from both my father and mother my father grandfather is from the town of Santa Ana my mothers side is from Jalostotitlan both are in the municipality of Jalostotitlan in the state of Jalisco. There were 2 main families in the town of Santa Ana the De La Torre's and the Romo's and they intermarried.

       As for the remarks made by you there was very little intermarriage with the natives and the spanish in the municipality of Jalostotitlan. My aunt (my mothers sister) married my uncle there was an old lady (the town's gossip) said that she had seen everything a rose growing in the swamp. You see my aunt a Romo Padilla was wed to a De Anda ( who happenned to be a meztizo) as that the Romo Padillas are white Spanish. So your remark about the seperation of the different ethnicities is true. I myself am 6' 3" tall and I have dark hair and Brown eyes yet I have cousins who are blond haired and

Jonathan,

I have the book Capt. Miguel Sanchez Saenz and his Descendantes by Jose
Rene Escobar Saenz. It covers some stuff about Starr County and Mier.

George Luna
luna@...

mexicanfhr wrote:

Has anyone in the group, done any research, for Starr County, Texas?
Or know of anyone who could answer some questions, for that area?

Contact me, privately at mexicanfhr@...

Thanks,
Jonathan







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Has anyone in the group, done any research, for Starr County, Texas?
Or know of anyone who could answer some questions, for that area?

Contact me, privately at mexicanfhr@... 

Thanks,
Jonathan

Emilie/Linda:

I think you are on to something very important here.  I grew up in a 
predominantly Chinese neighborhood in Los Angeles and then went off 
to school on the east coast, where there are very few Mexicans and 
have lived in Asia and the east coast for most of my adult life.  I 
must say that doing this genealogy research has really led to me to 
learn a lot more about my Mexican heritage and get connected to it.  
I am hoping that I can disseminate what I have learned among my 
relatives and that it will have a similar effect on them.

I think it is important to understand from where we came in order to 
better figure out where we should go...


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"  
wrote:
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> Linda, 
> 
> I too have a Valencia ancestor on my mother's side.  Also I too am 
one of that last generation of our culture that can understand 
Spanish although I am not fluent in it.  I never had any children, 
but if I had, I guess they would have

Emilie, Neither I or my 4 children married within our culture.  I knew 
we were loosing our ethnicity when my son, then age 5, referred to a 
tortilla as a little pizza... that was warning sign #1... When I see 
my granchildren and 3 gr-grandkids, I see Portuguese, German, Jewish, 
Black, Swedish, Norwegian, Italian but no Mexican faces.... Maybe that 
helps explain my passion for preserving our Mexican history for them.  
My granddaughter told me there were no Mexicans in Minn where she 
lives, guess that says it all as far as how she see's her ethnicity.. 
I said to her, "How about you?" she just laughed and got embarrassed...
Much work to do...
Linda in Everett

   I WISH YOU AND ALL THE GROUP A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR! 



HOPE TO MEET YOU'ALL EITHER IN CALIFORNIA OR SALT LAKE CITY.



MICKEY GARCIA

Jos¨¦,

I admire your attitude and willingness to learn another language.  It's not easy and you are doing an excellent job.  I have not had a problem understanding your messages.  What comes across to me is that you are an educated person and have a lot to contribute.  The focus of this group is the exchange of genealogical data. With that thought in mind the important thing is to keep contributing in either language.  If you want to expand your knowledge of the English language in the process, then by all means continue to do so.  There are enough of us here who can help you with translations whenever you want.

Saludos desde California,

Maria Cortez


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
>
> 
> Jos§Û Rom§Òn,
> 
> I agree your english is not perfect (neither is mine ask Marge 
> Vallazza), but I VERY VERY much agree that it takes tremedous courage to 
> jump into the middle of a primarily english speaking group and making an 
> effort like you are

I have not checked my email in a very long time, but this email caught my
eye right away.  Lorenzo de Miramontes is my ancestor so I am interested if
it mentions any of his immediate family, as well as the family of his
brothers, sisters, and/or his parents and other children.  

How would you send such a document?  Would it be a computer file or the
actual copy of the original manuscript?  I will pay you good moneyyou?re
your trouble.  Please send it to my email address:

PacoHernandez73@...

I now use this address way more than my aol.com account.  Today when I
logged on I had 427 email messages. I'm not kidding.

If you require my snail mail address then I will make that available to you
if necessary.  I am very interested.

Sincerely, 
Steven F. Hernández



-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Arturo Ramos
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 11:43 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Tlaltenango Census

If

Here is the translation of your "chiste" Jose.

The father of a wealthy family sends one of his older sons to the 
U.S. so that he could learn English.  The son went to one of the best 
schools in the country and after a while the father calls him and 
asks him, "So how is it going with your English?"  The son 
responds, "Gosh, Dad, I can't seem to learn English and I am 
forgetting my Spanish."  Then the Dad tells him anxiously, "Well you 
had better come back then son, lest you become a mute."

Agradecemos mucho que hagas el esfuerzo de escibirnos en ingles.  A 
mi me cuesta bastante escribir en espanol tambien, pero sigamos 
haciendolo como podamos y asi vamos mejorando, no...

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, José Román González López 
 wrote:
>
> To the great fellow Joseph:
>    
>   Thanks for your message.
>    
>   I hope not to say in my e-Mail messages an incorrect expression, 
but I know that my English is very bad. Any way I don't like offend 
to anybody, I don