Nuestros Ranchos Site

I'm a proud grandmother, too. This is my clan (w/yr of birth; without surnames) -
The children of my daughter Elena:
Joseph Jesus, 1999
Emma Anabel, 2001
Carolina Ryann, 2005 (Carolina - with a Spanish pronounciation, NOT like in North Carolina)

The children of my daughter Laura:
Maria Liliana Evangeline (AKA Lily), 2003
Naomi Arlene, 2005

The child of my daughter Heather Maria:
Jacob Luis, 2004

All proudly carrying Zacatecan genes.

My two sons, Patrick Joaquin and Justin Miguel, are not married - yet.

Congratulations on Emily!!

Natalie in Virginia

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...or is it harder to post a message? I don't mean to come to the site and actually post. But, when Ranchos was around, it was easy to see and respond to a message because it popped up in our email. Now we actually have to come to the site...and I'm finding that, now, I'm not doing it as often. I love the site, really, it just seems harder. I feel like I haven't really had any dialogue with anyone. :o(
On a brighter note, I went to a book signing/reading last weekend with Sandra Cisneros. For all the readers in the group, I recommend all her books - especially to the women. She writes with so much passion...she's so lyrical in her words. Her last book, Caramelo, I've read about 20 times. Ms. Cisneros signed my copy and a copy of poetry of hers that I bought at the signing called, "Loose Woman". I know this doesn't seem to have anything to do with genealogy, but her book, Caramelo, is the story of the main characters family, as her great-grandfather was from Spain, her grandparents from Mexico, and, finally, as her father made his way from Mexico to Chicago. It's a fun book with lots of historical references that you all may find entertaining.

Muchas Smooches!
Peggy

-----Original Message-----
From: Josie T. Trevino [mailto:josiett3@satx.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 8:18 AM
To: 'Joseph Puentes'
Subject: RE: Emily and Other Ranchos Babies

Hello to all!

It looks like "Grandma" got caught napping and Mickey beat me to the
draw~!!! I had a great announcement planned to send my "Ranchos Compadres
and Comadres" but with all the activity going on here I just had not had a
chance to do so! Yesssss, my little Emily was born on Monday (Swiss time)
at 7:36 am and weighs about 7 lbs 2 oz. I say "about" because they figure
things in grams, kilos, etc. around here.....not like we do in TEXAS!
YEA!...TEXAS has another little beauty!!! A Texas Rose....since she looks
like a little rosebud! :-) Is Grandma proud or what???? :-) :-)
Actually, I am so happy that words cannot explain it all! My daughter and
son-in-law surprised me when they said it would be a "home birth"......and,
after my initial shock......I accepted it. I had these visions of crying,
pain, etc. but it turned out to be one of the most beautiful experiences of
my life! My daughter did extremely well! Of course, the midwife was
prepared to take my daughter to the hospital if things did not go well.
Little Emily has been a wonderful baby and my little Leon (her five year old
brother) is just so happy she is here! Emily has already grasped his little
finger and that made him beam even more!

Today is Wednesday and my little Emily has experienced her first snowfall!
We were greated with snow this morning and it has been snowing for about
five hours now! Yesterday we had a beautiful sunny day! This reminds me of
Texas weather.....you never know what the next day brings!

I know I am way off the subject now.....but Grandmas have a tendency to do
that when it comes to our grandchildren! I am soooooo happy~! I now have a
new little leaf to add to my growing family tree! She was indeed a "special
delivery" and I cannot wait to show her the wonderful stock she comes from!

Hugs to all,

Josie in Switzerland

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes [mailto:makas@nc.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:18 AM
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; JOSIETT3@aol.com; Josie T. Trevino
Subject: Emily and Other Ranchos Babies

Maybe we should have a special welcome committee for all the Ranchos babies.
Yes I know they weren't born in one of our Ranchos, but their genes came out
from one of our Ranchos and nothing will ever change that.

Well I know there have been other Ranchos babies born this year and last
year and I would be happy for those of you who know who I'm talking about to
make your announcements public, but I'll not out of respect for your
privacy. I would just like to say CONGRATULATIONS to all of you and
especially to this newest one, Emily in Swisa, Switzerland (can I come for a
visit?).

Does anyone on the list practice the silver dollar tradition?????

My mom (hey don't dad's have traditions?), well anyway my mom would say that
when the child gets just a little older than new born you are suppose to
take a silver dollar and touch its hand with it. If the baby takes the
dollar then it is a sign of a life of prosperity if the baby doesn't it
means otherwise. Hmmm, I can see how this one might not be popular to
practice because I'm sure some of the babies don't grasp the dollar.

joseph

MMG8938@aol.com wrote:

>Hello Everyone!
>
>Just to let you know that Josie Treviño is the proud grandmother of a
>little girl, "Emily". Born in "Swisa"...Switzerland.
>
>Mickey
>

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14199

go to this URL (log-in, files, reference materials, "March 2006
Sacramento Meeting")

keep the minutes and meeting going. There is an announcement in the
minutes for the next meeting later in the summer.

joseph

Help!

In the "Diccionario Geografico" Where do you click to go to a different letter of the alphabet? When it first opens up, the "A" comes up. I want to go to the "M".

Thank you.

John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA.

Joseph,

Got your request. Some of my fondest memories of my Mom are of the way she
would use hand gestures to emphasize a point. Such as touching the tip of her
index finger to the area below the outside corner of her eye, then pulling
corner down to slightly expose the area below the eyeball. She would do this and
say something like "Vease bien, mijo" when making a point that I should keep
an eye on something, or someone; or look into it more deeply.

My Mom's Father's family comes from La Noria de San Pantaleon, Zacatecas.
Has anyone crossed this area in their research? I believe it is near
Sombrerete, Zacatecas.

Ken Alva
Southern California

wow you guys are great. Please keep having these meetings and hopefully
more and more members will start attending.

thanks for CC'ing me. . .I'm happy to be included.

joseph

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Here are the minutes from our March 2006 meeting. Thank you Irma for putting them together!

Please note the date and location for our next meeting: July 29th at 11:00 am, at the Raley's
Event Center in Brentwood. Thank you Kitty for the wonderful tip on the Event Center!

I will draft an agenda for the next meeting as we get closer to the date. One item is our
individual genealogy libraries. Please put that together and e-mail it to Kitty.

I am also attaching Kitty's handout from the meeting.

Joseph, I am cc'ing you so that you can post the minutes from our meeting and Kitty's handout
on nuestrosranchos, if you would like to do so.

In closing, I want to say that it will be nice to get out of the 100 degree weather in Sac
and escape to Brentwood for our meeting in July.

Maria

I don't know if this will go through. I thought I posted something yesterday and I don't think it went through. I thought I was signed up for the mailing list but maybe I'm not?

FamilySearch announced today the release of a new research product that will help those with Mexican heritage to succeed in their quest to learn more about their ancestors. The research guide, Finding Records of Your Ancestors, Mexico, features easy-to-follow, step-by-step instructions, colorful graphics and tear-out worksheets. A free copy can be viewed or downloaded below.

Finding Records of Your Ancestors, Mexico, 1859 to Present is the newest addition to a series of popular publications. The guide simplifies the research process for users and clearly explains various genealogical records of interest. It is designed for those who have already gathered some family history information about their Mexican ancestors and are ready to search public and private records. Users will find simple instructions, examples, and removable pedigree and family group worksheets to help them capture what they already know about their families.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Home/News/Press/Finding_Records-Mexico_…

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Location with respect to nearby cities:
267 km (166 miles) WSW (257 degrees) of Cihuatlán, Jalisco, Mexico
285 km (177 miles) SW (222 degrees) of Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Mexico
288 km (179 miles) W (263 degrees) of Manzanillo, Colima, Mexico
782 km (486 miles) WNW (286 degrees) of Acapulco, Guerrero, Mexico

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is there anyone on the other end of this email?

Did we lose all of you?

I hate to stimulate conversation for the sake of conversation, but. . .

. . .I really would appreciate you emailing back to the list if you get
this message.

If you get this message just click "reply" change the Subject and send
me your favorite recipe for hand made Tortillas de Harina or tell me the
name of your latest great grandchild who just happens to be a direct
decendant of your GGGG grandfather from Los Altos de Jalisco or explain
to me some of the unusual things that your parents did that might have
been folklore and tradition coming from generations ago in Mexico. .
.for example. . .Every once in a while my Mom would be doing her thing
and suddenly she would in a hightened voice say, "Mijo vengase aqui." I
would come to her and she would put her hand in my pocket and have this
look of discomfort on her face. Well on the surface this would appear
strange until you heard the "rest of the story." Seems that at these
time of hurried action she would suddenly be struck with a big "itch" in
the palm of her hand. . .it didn't happen often but when it did this was
a "sign" to her that Money was near. So she would find her closest child
and transfer that money into one of their pockets while at the same time
suffering the discomfort of having the itch in her palm.

Sounds strange, but my Mom would do things like that and to us it was
normal.

So did any of your Mom's ever pass on their thoughts and traditions and
beliefs via their "old country" way of thinking?

joseph

As some of you have noticed, one of the new functionalities of the new Nuestros Ranchos site is the films database. The database allows you to search the IGI and VRI indices on familysearch.org simply by finding the name of the relevant municipality and the relavant dates. The database also has information on films that members have on permanent loan at their local Family History Centers.

Currently there are nearly 450 films in the database. Ideally, we would like to have all of the films from our region which are indexed on the database. For any of you who use familysearch.org often and have figured out what the batch numbers are for your relevant municipalities, please take the time to share the information for the group by putting the information into the database if it is not there yet.

The database can also now be edited, which means that if a film is already listed, but is listed with incorrect dates or batch numbers you can correct the errors. You can also add your name to the list of borrowers if you have a listed film on indefinite loan at your local FHC.

Please let me know if you have any questions or problems using the database.

Arturo

Hello,

Four new files for my decsendants Juan Zuniga, Domingo Nava, Diego Luna and
Miguel Carlos Godoy all from Tepetongo, Jerez and Monte Escovedo Zac.

Sally Zuniga- Quinones matthew_chavez1

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Seems that the word: Genealogy is a looked upon with distain from those
that study History. For that reason I left the word out of the
description of the Nuestra Familia Unida podcast project. Genealogy is a
subset of History and felt I was not slighting anyone in the genealogy
camp by doing this. Well with some files on genealogy scattered around
the website I thought I should at least create a section for the
genealogical materials, which I did.

Have a look at the new genealogy section of the Nuestra Familia Unida
podcast:

http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com/podcast/genealogy.html

There are a lot of talented and knowledgeable folks that are receiving
this notice that I could almost "beg" to step forward and produce
content for this section. If you have a genealogical message within your
understanding that could benefit the community I would ask, say, tell,
command (well that's going a little overboard), plead with you to bring
this light out from under your bushel basket and help those of us that
need this understanding.

Don't feel you have to have a Ph.D. or be some kind of authority to
contribute. A small contribution here and there will add up to a section
of this podcast project that will help many. Be part of it.

joseph

Mimi Lozano and Somos Primos have been so supportive of the Nuestra
Familia Unida podcast project. This issue has two insertions: one under
Culture and the other under Archaeology.

My sincere thanks go out to Mimi and the Somos Primos organization,

Joseph Puentes

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Somos Primos April 2006 Table of Contents and URL lq
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 23:25:15 -0500 (EST)
From: MIMILOZANO@aol.com
To: MIMILOZANO@aol.com

Click here: Somos Primos: Dedicated to Hispanic Heritage and Diversity
Issues
http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2006/spapr06/spapr06.htm

Good news . . . the US House hearing for the establishing a new national
museum in D.C. dedicated to Latino arts, history, and culture went quite
well. I will try and get the information about what the Senate is doing
for the May issue.

Thanks for your articles, tidbits, family information, and kind
letters. It is your sharing that adds to the variety in Somos Primos.

Warm regards, Mimi

Monthly notification is a service, please let me know if your prefer not
to be notified.

TABLE OF CONTENTS

UNITED STATES
Special Sharing: California Woman of the Year 20th Anniversary Event
National issues
Establishment of a National Museum of the American Latino Community
A Record Breaking Immigrants' Rights Rally in Los Angeles
Pew Briefing on Immigration Survey
Student Visas and Tourist Visas
Census: Latinos Population Changes Today
Almanac of Latino Politics, 2006
Former California Assemblyman Marco Firebaugh
Cesar Chavez Day Celebrated Across the U.S
Hispanics' 'Defining Moment'
Book: Multiple Origins, Uncertain Destinies
The Antiquities Act
Education
Map of States that offer in-state tuition for children of illegal immigrants
Should Illegal Immigrants Get Tuition Help?
Non-Lingual Children results from poorly supervised Bilingual Education.
Excerpt from: "Woe to kids without father figures"
WALKOUT aired on HBO, March 18th
National Association of Latino Independent Producers
Advanced Placement on upswing
PacifiCare Latino Health Scholars Program
Coming to America: A Teacher Remembers
Culture
The full-effect American experience
Carpet too pretty to walk on J. Michael Parker
Ask a Mexican
Music: Outlaw Onda
Latino Arts Network E-Newsletter goes virtual!
Under Construction: About a Mexican American comic that loses weight
Nuestra Familia Unida: Chicken Soup for the Latin Soul/History Page
Business
Dinero, New Breed of Magazines for Affluent Latinos
Outsourcing in the Americas
The National Hispanic Convention in California. May31st - June 2nd.
Georgia farmers "Don't know" - yeah, right!"

NATIONAL MUSEUM OF THE AMERICAN LATINO
Statement of U.S. Congressman Xavier Becerra on H.B. 2134

MILITARY HEROES AND RESEARCH
Images of Valor
Support Sears
El Sereno American Flag Raising Ceremony
Internet used for Honoring Veterans, three webites:
Home of Heroes;
We Support you;
Before you Go
The History of Bill Arvizu in the Military

SPANISH SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
Battle of San Juan 1797 article
Sons And Daughters of The Republic of Texas
Cuba Patriots of the American Revolution, Part 3, (K-M)

SURNAME - DE LA GARZA

CUENTOS
A collection of personal stories shared by Frank M. Sifuentes
My Unusual Birth
Reflejos y Recuredos de mi Tio Antonio Casarez Sifunentes
Recuerdos de Tio Meme: Manuel Casarez Sifuentes
Babe and the Cadillac:
MY First Celebration of Labor Day, Circa 1949

ORANGE COUNTY, CA
April 29th, 2006 "Capturing Your Past With the Tools of Today"
Orange County Family History Fair, No cost
April 29, 2006: Hispanic Chamber-Estrella Awards Notice
Tiger Woods Learning Center opens in Anaheim
Ancient Tongue Linked to Aztec Past
MANA at Great American Write In!
Non-traditional community inspired Historic Preservation Projects
Save the date: May 27th, SHHAR Quarterly

LOS ANGELES, CA
"Cesar E. Chavez A Reflection"
A Tribute to Cesar Chavez, Re-enacting a labor leader's life
April 22: Celebrate the Memorial Impulse! Become the Family Historian!
Database Los Angeles Times Obituary Index

CALIFORNIA
Book: The Winds of Sonoma. . Historical novel
"The Virtual Museum of the City of San Francisco" Online resource
Los Californianos Alert, 230th anniversary of the Juan Bautista de Anza
APRIL 14 Deadline: Latino Issues Forum Summer Fellowship Program.

NORTHWESTERN UNITED STATES
Report: March BYU Computerized Genealogy Conference
Training From Salt Lake Saves Lives in Other Countries

SOUTHWESTERN UNITED STATES
Book: Ringside Seat to a Revolution
14th Hispano tribute to Hispano legislators, "Walking the Talk" award
Research Paper, Pre-International Baccalaureate Program
Of Buried Truths, Undocumented Laborers & Grandfather I Never Knew
Index to the Names in Conquerors of the West
"Tiny" Martinez, A Legend In Our Community Passes On
Award-winning work of local sculptor

BLACK
Found Roots
Heritage tourism helps blacks reconnect
Black Latinos can find race niches hard to accept

INDIGENOUS
Book: Crossing Bok Chitto
Native Expressions, Event held March 10th
Her Life Belongs to the Land
Book: Bernie Whitebear,
THE Mixtecs and Zapotecs: Enduring Cultures of Oaxaca

My wife Gloria and I are still here, Xossef. You can't lose us that easily. We're slow but steady...como las tortugas. We don't have any great grandchildren yet. Our latest grandchild is Elena Lin, 8 months old. Her father is our youngest son, Eduardo Mateo Cancio DELGADO Calvillo. Her mother is Janeen Louie Wong, fourth generation Chinese-American. Elena's GGGGGGGGGParents are: Pedro de Campos and Xacinntta de Espinossa from Pinos, Zacatecas. I estimate their birth at 1660/1665. That's on my father's side. Gloria would have to do her own calculation for her side.

We are in Albany, CA. How does Elena get to Pinos? Here goes: Oxnard, CA (me)>Tepatitlan, Jal(dad)>Aguas, Ags(GP)>el Mesquite, Encarnacion de Diaz, Jal(married Garcia Espitia)>el Capulin, Jal>la Sieneguita, Jal>Lagos de Moreno, Jal(Espitia married De Campos)>Pinos. Considering that I have ancestors who were Piro, Chiricahua, Tepecan or , Basque and Gloria is half Puerto Rican including African, Taino, Basque and yet-to-be determined others...poor Elena will need a pamphlet to figure out exactly what kind of a "salad" she is. Fascinating...huh?

David Delgado, retired and beginnin to enjoy it.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Joseph Puentes
>Sent: Apr 1, 2006 4:25 AM
>To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Bueno ???
>
>
>is there anyone on the other end of this email?
>
>Did we lose all of you?
>
>I hate to stimulate conversation for the sake of conversation, but. . .
>
>. . .I really would appreciate you emailing back to the list if you get
>this message.
>
>If you get this message just click "reply" change the Subject and send
>me your favorite recipe for hand made Tortillas de Harina or tell me the
>name of your latest great grandchild who just happens to be a direct
>decendant of your GGGG grandfather from Los Altos de Jalisco or explain
>to me some of the unusual things that your parents did that might have
>been folklore and tradition coming from generations ago in Mexico. .
>.for example. . .Every once in a while my Mom would be doing her thing
>and suddenly she would in a hightened voice say, "Mijo vengase aqui." I
>would come to her and she would put her hand in my pocket and have this
>look of discomfort on her face. Well on the surface this would appear
>strange until you heard the "rest of the story." Seems that at these
>time of hurried action she would suddenly be struck with a big "itch" in
>the palm of her hand. . .it didn't happen often but when it did this was
>a "sign" to her that Money was near. So she would find her closest child
>and transfer that money into one of their pockets while at the same time
>suffering the discomfort of having the itch in her palm.
>
>Sounds strange, but my Mom would do things like that and to us it was
>normal.
>
>So did any of your Mom's ever pass on their thoughts and traditions and
>beliefs via their "old country" way of thinking?
>
>joseph
>
>

I have posted a couple of chapters of a book I just purchased in the Files section. For anyone interested in historical ethnography or the issue of castes and slavery in Mexico, it is the seminal work on Mexican black ethnohistory.

The book is a wealth of primary source materials on demographics and the ethnohistory of colonial Mexico.

I have included the two parts with the most numerical data but there are other chapters with excepts from archival documents on the daily life, social mobility, etc. of blacks and other "castas" in Nueva Espana.

From the jacket:

The first edition of this book, only six years after the expansion continent-wide of the indigenist movement born in Mexico, rediscovered our portion of America and that in her veins ran not ony indigenous blook, mixed with the white heritage that came with the European conquistadores, but also that which was imported from a part of Africa.

Stay with me as these announcements will finish in two more days. Wasn't
there some politician that had a policy about "No One Being Left
Behind!" Well I just hope that the carnage (lost members) will not be as
high as I expect it to be from the transition. It seems as if my "Ax"
sessions don't nearly take as big of cuts as the "transition" is going
to take. Well let's hope I'm wrong and that suddenly some will wake up
and smell the roses.

As of 31 March 2006 the Yahoo group: Ranchos will be discontinued with
regards to its email distribution function.

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if you want to take a stab at it yourself:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/13819

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These are some of the films that I will be researching in October, 2006 while attending the Hispanic Conference:

Registros Parroquiales 1605-1959 from Sagrario, Zac., Zac.
283370, Item 1 (bapt. 1634-1678 including matrimonios and entierros)
283371 (informacion matrimonial) 1605-1698
283372 (informacion matrimonial) 1673-1692
283373 (informacion matrimonial) 1689-1711
283374 (informacion matrimonial) 1694-1718

Kitty, are any of these in the group that you have already requested? Am I doing this right? Pls let me know, ok? Thanks! Josie

These are some of the films that I will be researching in October, 2006 while attending the Hispanic Conference:

Registros Parroquiales 1605-1959 from Sagrario, Zac., Zac.
283370, Item 1 (bapt. 1634-1678 including matrimonios and entierros)
283371 (informacion matrimonial) 1605-1698
283372 (informacion matrimonial) 1673-1692
283373 (informacion matrimonial) 1689-1711
283374 (informacion matrimonial) 1694-1718

Kitty, are any of these in the group that you have already requested? Am I doing this right? Pls let me know, ok? Thanks! Josie

Stay with me as these announcements will finish in two more days. Wasn't
there some politician that had a policy about "No One Being Left
Behind!" Well I just hope that the carnage (lost members) will not be as
high as I expect it to be from the transition. It seems as if my "Ax"
sessions don't nearly take as big of cuts as the "transition" is going
to take. Well let's hope I'm wrong and that suddenly some will wake up
and smell the roses.

As of 31 March 2006 the Yahoo group: Ranchos will be discontinued with
regards to its email distribution function.

if you go to the Yahoo Group - Ranchos webpage:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/ you will see this message left
behind:

We are closed to new membership "HERE" as of 03-31-2006
The group has moved to: http://nuestrosranchos.org

Somos cerrados a la asociación nueva "AQUI" desde el dia 03-31-2006
El grupo se movio a: http://nuestrosranchos.org

if you need help getting yourself moved over send a message to
moderator@nuestrosranchos.org either Rosalinda, Arturo or I will be glad
to help you get accustomed to some of the features the new website has
to offer.

if you want to take a stab at it yourself:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/13819

Please DO NOT create a new account. Your account is already set up with
your YahooGroups userid but you will have to request a new password in
order to log in. The new password will be sent to the email registerd on
your YahooGroups account and once you receive your password you can log
and change it to whatever they like. In order to do this:

1. From the main page, click on "Request New Password" just below
the login area.
2. Enter your YahooGroups username or the email address registered on
YahooGroups ranchos.
3. Click on e-mail new password.
4. You will receive an email with your new password.
5. Log on with your YahooGroups username and the password received in
the email.
6. Click on "My account" (Second or third sidebar menu item)
7. Click on the "Edit" tab and enter new password (in both fields
provided) and click submit.
8. Review other information in the Account Settings category. Change
your language, time zone, etc. as necessary. Please do NOT change
your email address. During the transition, the email addresses
registered on this site and on YahooGroups must match or messages
will be rejected by one site or another. This restriction will be
lifted once the transition is complete.
9. Review the information in the Personal Information category. Enter
your name, location and geographic areas and surnames of research.
10. Review the Mailing Lists settings, and subscribe to the mailing
lists per the instructions below. This is very important. If you
do not sign up for the mailing lists, any messages that you post
will not get distributed to the group!

Instructions for signing up for the mailing lists is as follows:

1. Click on the mailing lists menu option on the right hand menu or
click on the mailing lists menu item when editing your account in
step 8 above.
2. Click on the type of subscription you would like for each of the
three mailing lists. You must initially subscribe to receiving all
email or daily digests. Once you have gone confirmed your
subscription (next step) you can change back your settings to "No
Email" which allows you to send messages to the list but not
receive any messages from the list, i.e. you will be able to read
messages only by going onto the website.
3. You will receive a message asking for confirmation of your email
address for each of the mailing lists to which you subscribe. If
you sign up for all three, you will receive three separate
messages. Simply reply to each message to confirm your subscription.
4. Once you have registered for a list, the messages that you post
will get distributed to the group. You can post in any of the
three Forums or via email to any one of the three lists and the
messages will automatically get posted to the website and get
distributed to those signed up for the new Nuestros Ranchos list
as well as the old YahooGroups list. The posting addresses are
general@nuestrosranchos.org, research@nuestrosranchos.org, or
announce@nuestrosranchos.org

For instructions on navigating and posting content click here
.

Hi!
 
Well.........I GIVE
UP!!!   :-)     I am here in beautiful Switzerland
trying to be patient about a lot of things......but......I CANNOT figure out how
to respond to a message on the new "Nuestros Ranchos" website!   I
feel so dumb!!   I went to the new website......logged in......read
the BEAUTIFUL story by Joseph "Porque estas aqui, Muchacha?" and wanted to
comment on it but did not know how to do a reply to that
message.....HELP???
 
Josie

Hello,

I just wanted to ask, who all in the group lives in Arizona.

Jonathan

Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
ranchos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

On the 31 March 2006 the Ranchos Yahoo group will cease to function as a
group.

At this point we have roughly 40%-50% of the group members moved over
(this is not good news).

So after that date any messages you post to the email address
(ranchos@yahoogroups.com) will not work

After 31 March 2006 all messages to the Ranchos group need to go through
the Nuestros Ranchos website email distribution lists:

research@nuestrosranchos.org (for
messages strictly related to genealogical questions and inquiries)

general@nuestrosranchos.org (for
messages of a historical general nature or of the culture of the region)

announce@nuestrosranchos.org (for
announcements or messages related to events of interest to group members)

Here are some great instructions by Arturo that can be found at the website:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/13819

Instructions for transition of account from YahooGroups

Please Do NOT create a new account. Your account is already set up with
your YahooGroups userid but you will have to request a new password in
order to log in. The new password will be sent to the email registerd on
your YahooGroups account and once you receive your password you can log
and change it to whatever you like. In order to do this:

1. From the main page, click on "Request New Password" just below
the login area.
2. Enter your YahooGroups username or the email address registered on
YahooGroups ranchos.
3. Click on e-mail new password.
4. You will receive an email with your new password.
5. Log on with your YahooGroups username and the password received in
the email.
6. Click on "My account" (Second or third sidebar menu item)
7. Click on the "Edit" tab and enter new password (in both fields
provided) and click submit.
8. Review other information in the Account Settings category. Change
your language, time zone, etc. as necessary. Please do NOT change
your email address. During the transition, the email addresses
registered on this site and on YahooGroups must match or messages
will be rejected by one site or another. This restriction will be
lifted once the transition is complete.
9. Review the information in the Personal Information category. Enter
your name, location and geographic areas and surnames of research.
10. Review the Mailing Lists settings, and subscribe to the mailing
lists per the instructions below. This is very important. If you
do not sign up for the mailing lists, any messages that you post
will not get distributed to the group!

Instructions for signing up for the mailing lists is as follows:

1. Click on the mailing lists menu option on the right hand menu or
click on the mailing lists menu item when editing your account in
step 8 above.
2. Click on the type of subscription you would like for each of the
three mailing lists. You must initially subscribe to receiving all
email or daily digests. Once you have gone confirmed your
subscription (next step) you can change back your settings to "No
Email" which allows you to send messages to the list but not
receive any messages from the list, i.e. you will be able to read
messages only by going onto the website.
3. You will receive a message asking for confirmation of your email
address for each of the mailing lists to which you subscribe. If
you sign up for all three, you will receive three separate
messages. Simply reply to each message to confirm your subscription.
4. Once you have registered for a list, the messages that you post
will get distributed to the group. You can post in any of the
three Forums or via email to any one of the three lists and the
messages will automatically get posted to the website and get
distributed to those signed up for the new Nuestros Ranchos list
as well as the old YahooGroups list. The posting addresses are
general@nuestrosranchos.org, research@nuestrosranchos.org, or
announce@nuestrosranchos.org.

For instructions on navigating and posting content click here
.

====================

If anyone has any problems whatsoever email me Privately at
makas@nc.rr.com and I'll work with you to get moved over to the new group.

thanks,

joseph

Don't worry. . .soon the group will be back to what most will consider
to be normal. As far as email delivery I don't think anyone will be
able to tell the difference between the Yahoo Ranchos and the Nuestros
Ranchos sites. (And yes those pesky double postings will stop, but
during this transition time they have been necessary). The main thing
is that you subscribe yourself to one, two or all three of the email
distribution lists and then "reply" to those confirmation emails.
Hijola, aren't you guys getting tired of hearing of those confirmation
emails? Once that is done you will never have to do anything again
unless you decide to change from individual emails to Digest or from
Digest to individual emails. In fact if you are ever going on vacation
or just don't want emails sent to you there is an option to set you
subscription to "no mail" and then you can just go to the
http://nuestrosranchos.org site and read the messages online.



Anyway like I said on 31 March 2006 the Yahoo Groups will in effect
stop functioning as a group. If you take a look at the Yahoo
Description page you can see that it has been savagely modified to
point people to the http://nuestrosranchos.org site. My hope is that as
the small percent of the 30-50% of those that have not retrieved their
passwords get the message that the Yahoo group has closed they might go
to the website and see a message with the "arrow" pointing them in the
right direction.

 

Good luck and we'll see you on the other side (oops, that should have
been said on the last day).



If you are totally lost, confused, intimidated, afraid, sad, mad, or
just plain fed up, but really want your subscription to stay intact and
don't know what to do NEVER FEAR! ! ! Joseph, Rosalinda, and Arturo are
HERE! Yes just email us at moderator@nuestrosranchos.org and one of us
will be glad to move you. Remember doing genealogy research never
requires you to be proficient in the latest internet and computer
technology. If you just want us to move you we will!



but if you want to take a stab at it here are some directions:



http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/13819

Please DO NOT
create a new account. Your account is already
set up with your YahooGroups userid but you will have to request a new
password in order to log in. The new password will be sent to the email
registered on your YahooGroups account and once you receive your
password you can log and change it to whatever they like. In order to
do this:

1. From the main page, click on “Request New Password” just below
   the login area.
2. Enter your YahooGroups username or the email address registered
   on YahooGroups ranchos.
3. Click on e-mail new password.
4. You will receive an email with your new password.
5. Log on with your YahooGroups username and the password received
   in the email.
6. Click on “My account” (Second or third sidebar menu item)
7. Click on the “Edit” tab and enter new password (in both fields
   provided) and click submit.
8. Review other information in the Account Settings category.
   Change your language, time zone, etc. as necessary. Please do NOT
   change your email address. During the transition, the email addresses
   registered on this site and on YahooGroups must match or messages will
   be rejected by one site or another. This restriction will be lifted
   once the transition is complete.
9. Review the information in the Personal Information category.
   Enter your name, location and geographic areas and surnames of
   research.
10. Review the Mailing Lists settings, and subscribe to the mailing
    lists per the instructions below.
    This is very important. If you do not sign up for the mailing lists,
    any messages that you post will not get distributed to the group!

Instructions for signing up for the mailing lists is as
follows: