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Vecinos y La Cruz



Gracias Steven,



I had seen Vecino so often that I was starting to wonder if most of my
family was Indios. I have nothing against being Indio and in fact am
very proud of my Indio heritage, but my only concern about being Indio
is that eventually the paper trail would end sooner than if they were
"Espanoles." Thus for the sake of continuing on the trail I was hoping
to stay within the Espanoles path. With this bit of information, for
which I am most grateful, I can relax a bit and continue to think that
at least into the 1750 my lines were Espanoles.



thanks again for this and for the Cruzitas information,



Joseph



Pacorro73@... wrote:

As far as I know vecino means "resident," as of a particular
town.  My Nuevo Espasa Ilustrado Dictionary defines vecino as "adj, s.
1. Que habita con otros en un mismo pueblo, barrio o casa. 2.
Cercano."  So there.  This so called "expert" was probaby confusing the
fact that after an Indian was converted, he/she could no longer live
out in

Vecinos y La Cruz

As far as I know vecino means "resident," as of a particular town.  My Nuevo Espasa Ilustrado Dictionary defines vecino as "adj, s. 1. Que habita con otros en un mismo pueblo, barrio o casa. 2. Cercano."  So there.  This so called "expert" was probaby confusing the fact that after an Indian was converted, he/she could no longer live out in the wild among other Indians.  He/she had to live at the mission, thus becoming a "vecino," a resident, of said mission, just like all the other residents or inhabitants of the mission like the Spaniards, mestizos, and slaves.

 

The little cross (+) used on the margins of archives or after someone's name simply means that the person has passed away.  It is common usage in Spanish writing to refer to Fulano de Tal (+), with the little cross after his/her name, to indicate that the person is dead.  I see it frequently when reading Spanish books or articles.

 

Steven H.

Los vascos: su historia, y heráldica.

Here's some data on the Basque.  Several contain links to other sites.  Hope it helps.

 

Expalanation of the history of the Basque Country, although not really a "country" per sé, it is a distinct ethnic and cultural region within Spain and France.  http://www.spanport.ucsb.edu/faculty/mcgovern/Countries/Basque_Country/basque_country.html

 

Best one for a list of all Basque surnames.


 

Flag and other Basque symbols.  http://www.fotw.net/flags/es-pv.html

 


 

La Biblioteca Heráldica. Very nice! http://users.skynet.be/sky43333/htm/INDICE_A-I.htm

 

Sincerely,

Steven F. Hernández

 

Basque?


it was late when I wrote to you last night. This morning I'm seeing that
maybe you mean Basque. Is that what you meant or was I originally right
that you mean Vasque or Vasquez?


if you meant Basque then I would think that yes there was a fair share
of Basque people that came to the new world as well but in Nevada there
is the University of Nevada that has a Basque studies department. You
could possibly find someone there to ask.


http://basque.unr.edu/

joseph



Vecinos y La Cruz


Hello Everyone,

I was listing to a NPR show about a week ago that was about the Missions
in and around San Antonio, Texas. Anyway one of the historical experts
in the discussion touched on the meaning of the word, "Vecino." He said
that was used for Indios that had successfully made the conversion over
to the Espanol lifestyle. . .Catholicism. At least that was my
understanding of what he said.


So what say you? I've seen the word "Vecino" in the marriage records
mostly in reference to the persons location. . ."Fue Vecino de este
pueblo de viente anos de edad."


Do you all agree with what I understood that expert said? And if so do
you all think the way I've seen the word Vecino used is to be understood
in the same way?


thanks,

Joseph

ps: Has anyone ever noticed that in some records [possibly only death
records] there is a T or "Cross" in the margin? What do you all think
that means?




los vascos

Can anyone tell me if a lot of vasque people from spain immigrated to 
mexico. The reason im askin is because my mother is aguirre on her 
mothers side and was i was told that the surname is vasque. 


Archivos Espanoles en Red Site: Registration Instructions

Here are two other links to some registration instructions (one in English, and another in Spanish) for the website:
 
 
 
 
Rosalinda
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 9/24/2003 10:18:14 AM
Subject: [ranchos] Archivos Espanoles en Red Site: Registration Instructions


okay here is my try:

1) Being very careful to only use the latest version of Microsoft Internet Explorer go to:

http://aer.mcu.es/sgae/index_aer.jsp

2) then click on "Alta de usario"

Fill out the form making sure to scroll down to the place where you pick your login and password.

3) click "Acceptar"

and a pop up window will open with your "Tarjeta National de Investigador" number. Write this number down.

4) and click "ok"

5) click on "Salir"

6) Now go back to the home page: 
http://aer.mcu.es/sgae/index_aer.jsp

7) and put in your new login

geneology

Hello everyone,
I am back online again and will be posting my family tree soon.
I am currently working on it. I bought a family tree software from 
Comp USA and I hope I can upload it into the groups files. If I cant 
I'll let you guys know so you can help me out. 


Archivos Espanoles en Red Site: Registration Instructions



okay here is my try:



1) Being very careful to only use the latest version of Microsoft
Internet Explorer go to:

http://aer.mcu.es/sgae/index_aer.jsp

2) then click on "Alta de usario"

Fill out the form making sure to scroll down to the place where you pick your login and password.

3) click "Acceptar"

and a pop up window will open with your "Tarjeta National de Investigador" number. Write this number down.

4) and click "ok"

5) click on "Salir"

6) Now go back to the home page: 
http://aer.mcu.es/sgae/index_aer.jsp

7) and put in your new login and password in and click on "Aceptar"

8) Now the home page opens and when you go to use the search engine for the first time you get this message:


" AYUDA

Si usted accede a AER
por primera vez después de haberse dado de alta como usuario, recuerde
que para acceder a los campos de búsqueda de la base de datos de AER es
necesario rellenar un nuevo cuestionario acerca de los temas de
consulta.

Para ello, pinche con el
ratón en la