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software

As for myself, I have always used Family Tree Maker, by Brøderbund.  While I cannot say anything about RootsMagic, I am quite familiar with Personal Ancestral File.  I have always found PAF cumbersome and awfully hard to manipulate in.  Even doing the simplest of commands is a mindboggling undertaking.  Sorry to any PAF fans out there, but I give it two thumbs down.   :(

 

I would like to familiarize myself with RootsMagic.  Sounds good.  While Family Tree Maker is great if you want to create custom made reports, single person descendancy charts, pedigree charts, family group sheets, and many other things, I do not have much freedom to arrange the items in a family group sheets in the precise order that I want.

 

Family Tree Maker also makes really nice picture pedigree charts.  I have been doing this for a while now, and it's really not hard to do at all.

 

Regards,

Steven H.

software

I use Personal Ancestral File.  I got it because it was only $6.  It 
gets the job done, so I haven't looked into any of the other programs.



software

I switched from Family Tree Maker to RootsMagic.  I prefer the 
charts available especially the Pedigree and Photo charts.

Gloria

Retonos de Espana En Nueva Galicia and Irma's San J uan de los La gos lines

    Irma -- Did we settle on a date to regroup for our
family tree meeting?
    Let me know!
 
    Deborah
-----Original Message-----
From: Irma GomezLucero
[mailto:igomezlucero@...]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 12:19
PM
To: 'ranchos@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [ranchos]
Retonos de Espana En Nueva Galicia and Irma's San Juan de los La gos
lines

Yes,
I agree that this is an excellent vol. set.  Hopefully Stephen will
continue to keep us up to date as to when the newer ed. will become available
since he knows Dn. Mariano Gonzales-Leal.  I was able to fortunately
access (via Interlibrary Loan) both vols. 1 & 2 of the first ed., and the
information is incredible.  
Vol.
2 covers last names from A-Gomez-Portugal. 
 
Maybe Stephen could put in a word for me, and include my (5th Great
Grandfather) ancestor, Vicente-Ferrer Gomez, (Please see the following
VicenteGomez family tree) and not just Agustin, his brother in the newer
edition.  :) 

software

I am using Family Tree Maker.  It is one of the
biggest ones on the market.



--- citicarol  wrote:
> I just started researching my ancestors and would
> like some 
> recommendations on a software program that can help
> manage the names 
> and information.  I thought I would just start with
> my maternal 
> grandmother's side of the family from Ciudad Guzman
> in Jalisco but 
> it is now turning into a bigger tree than I
> originally thought.  A 
> program that can be uploaded to this site would be
> helpful so that I 
> can publish the data.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Carol Ramirez
> 
> 


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Retonos de Espana En Nueva Galicia and Irma's San Juan de los La gos lines

Yes, I
agree that this is an excellent vol. set.  Hopefully Stephen will continue
to keep us up to date as to when the newer ed. will become available since he
knows Dn. Mariano Gonzales-Leal.  I was able to fortunately access (via
Interlibrary Loan) both vols. 1 & 2 of the first ed., and the information is
incredible.  
Vol.
2 covers last names from A-Gomez-Portugal. 
 
Maybe
Stephen could put in a word for me, and include my (5th Great Grandfather)
ancestor, Vicente-Ferrer Gomez, (Please see the following VicenteGomez family
tree) and not just Agustin, his brother in the newer edition. 
:) 
Hey,
Vicente & his wife, Maria-Cayetana Macias(-Valadez) left a large number of
descendants in the Jalostotitlan area. 
 
Okay,
maybe just mention that Agustin had a brother, Vicente-Ferrer Gomez. 
Pg.466, under Segunda Linea of the second volume.  
:)
 
               
To quote my dad, "Nosotros los Gomez, no seriamos de mucho dinero, pero si
de orgullo".     
 
I have

software

I just started researching my ancestors and would like some 
recommendations on a software program that can help manage the names 
and information.  I thought I would just start with my maternal 
grandmother's side of the family from Ciudad Guzman in Jalisco but 
it is now turning into a bigger tree than I originally thought.  A 
program that can be uploaded to this site would be helpful so that I 
can publish the data.

Thanks,

Carol Ramirez


SHHAR Meeting





this was taken from the Somos Primos Online Newsletter
[http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2004/spjan04/spjan04.htm]:



If this is the year you have decided to start your personal family
history,

start the year out right by attending SHHAR's first meeting of the
year.  



No cost to attend and no membership fees.



The Society of Hispanic Historical and Ancestral Research

 invites you to learn how to seek out your ancestors on the internet.

Get excited about your history.



January 31st, Saturday,9 am-12 noon

Quarterly Meeting of the

Society of Hispanic Historical and Ancestral Research

Orange Family History Center

674 S. Yorba

Orange, California



 9:00 - 10:00:  

              Beginners, Hands on Computer Family History Research

              Regional Small group sharing, come meet your cousins

              

10:00- 10:30:  

              Introductions, announcements, networking break



10:30- 11:15   Judge Fredrick Aguirre

                       How Mendez vs Westminster School

My Nina is an ALTEÑA, and so are my Mamá, Abuelita, y Tías.

In a message dated 12/29/2003 8:09:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, makas@nc.rr.com writes:

I just got off the phone and it turns out that my Nina who married my
Nino, Jose Refugio Puentes, is an Alteño. If anyone comes across any of
these names from San Miguel el Alto please let me know.

Actually the descriptive adjective or term for anything or anyone from Los Altos de Jalisco would be Alteño, if they were male/masculine, and Alteña, if they were female/feminine.  So Joseph, your Nina would be an Alteña, unless she found a way to switch gender.
 
And in response to the question, where is Los Altos and what's so special or different about it, here's a map to show what area we're talking about:
 
 

Digest Number 204

Dear Group--

My husband and I spent 10 days in Jalisco in December.
 We went a few times to the city of Atotonilco el Alto
but spent most of the time with our cousins in the
nearby villages of Margaritas, Santa Elena, San
Joaquin, and Milpillas.  There is another place in
Jalisco called Atotonilco el Bajo so I always make
sure to say the complete name of the first city
mentioned.

My niece and I went two different days to view the
local cemeteries.  The first was the old cemetery in
Atotonilco el Alto.  A few years ago there was a flood
and it destroyed some of the plots.  Where before the
dates could go back hundreds of years, that is not the
case today.  Next trip I will check the new cemetery
of Atotonilco el Alto and see what I can find.

We also went to the cemetery near Margaritas which
among others, serves the people of Margaritas, San
Joaquin and Santa Elena.  It wasn't for me but I was
looking for the name of Borunda for a contact of mine.
 I found lots.  We went on a day of