--- Begin Message ---

>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Source:		University Of Wisconsin-Madison
>Date:		2004-06-16
>URL:		http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/06/040616062606.htm
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Ancient Maps And Corn Help Track The Migrations Of Indigenous People
>
>MADISON- Maps are tools to show you where you 
>are going, but they can also show you where you 
>came from. That principle drives the work of 
>Roberto Rodríguez and Patrisia Gonzales, who 
>study ancient maps, oral traditions and the 
>movement of domesticated crops to learn more 
>about the origins of native people in the 
>Americas.
>
>"How do you bring memory back to a people that 
>were told not to remember?"

-----Original Message-----
From: sgapodaca
[mailto:sgapodaca@...]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:08
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re:
Cervantes DNA Surname Project

Hello Angel, I apologize
for not answering your emails right away. I
have been really busy now that
I came back from Mexico. Hey, this DNA
Cervantes project sounds
interesting. Tell me more about it. How much
does it cost to be part of
the project? I believe the expenses are
probably worth it if we are going
to know more about our ancestors.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com,
"Angel R. Cervantes"
wrote:
> I would
like to invite viewers of the Ranchos forum
> with the Cervantes surname
from

Hello Angel, I apologize for not answering your emails right away. I 
have been really busy now that I came back from Mexico. Hey, this DNA 
Cervantes project sounds interesting. Tell me more about it. How much 
does it cost to be part of the project? I believe the expenses are 
probably worth it if we are going to know more about our ancestors.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Angel R. Cervantes" 
 wrote:
> I would like to invite viewers of the Ranchos forum
> with the Cervantes surname from Mexico to join the
> Cervantes DNA Surname Project at
> http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?
code=L97208&special=True
> 
> The Cervantes surname in Mexico has its roots as far
> back as the early 16th Century. You have two
> important individuals with this surname.
> 
> The first one is Leonel de Cervantes, he came with
> Hernan Cortes in the conquest of Mexico in 1521.
> Leonel de Cervantes was born in Burguillos del Cerro,
> Spain and was a member of a noble

That's right. During my research of documents of the beginning of the 
19th century I have seen individuals catalogued as "Indios" with no 
last names. Also, it is true what you say about taking the surname of 
a patron, but I have also seen individuals with surnames taken from 
towns in Jalisco, as well as occupations: San Juan, Sayula, Cocula, 
Albanil, etc.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "marge vallazza"  
wrote:
> When surnames were finally given to the Indios, many of them 
received names such as Juan de Dios or Maria de los Angeles--saints 
names were used as surnames.  Sometimes they also took on the surname 
of the patron of the particular rancho, pueblito, hacienda, casa, 
etc., that they were living at.  Marge Vallazza:)
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: makas@n... 
>   To: LosRanchos ; Ciudad_Juarez@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:19 PM
>   Subject: [ranchos] Indios: Surnames
> 
> 
> 
>   When the Spaniards made converts of

http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=mmvw&lmap=2&hlbl=0&xofs=0&yofs=0&clvl=4&msds=EX0122D88053UdfzyMfz94%21A01000%214%24FF%2150%21Q%24FF0%218%24FF%24300Kphrvjymn.%245BKphrvjymn.upn.Gsg%245D%242C.Hmxmypxmf%242C.Kpqjxg%212%24FF90Kphrvjymn%2416b%24CC%24FE%241B%2434%2435%2440%2494%24E2%242F%2429%249F%24D8A%24C0%241C0001000%214%24FF%24AB%24E6%247E0000%212%24FF0000%212%24FF%216i%24EE%243F%2414000%216%24FF%21I0&cbak=1
long link might need to be rebuilt in the URL window.

this might not be the same
town you are looking for but here is one town:

Mezquital del Oro in

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ranchos 
group.

  File        : /Yolanda Bobby Perez  
  Uploaded by : makas_nc  
  Description : Tepechitlan and Tlaltenango, Zacatecas 

You can access this file at the URL

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/files/Yolanda%20Bobby%20Perez%20%3Cwindrocklili%40sbcglobal.net%3E 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

makas_nc 
 

http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=mmvw&lmap=2&hlbl=0&xofs=0&yofs=0&clvl=4&msds=EX0122D88053UdfzyMfz94%21A01000%214%24FF%2150%21Q%24FF0%218%24FF%24300Kphrvjymn.%245BKphrvjymn.upn.Gsg%245D%242C.Hmxmypxmf%242C.Kpqjxg%212%24FF90Kphrvjymn%2416b%24CC%24FE%241B%2434%2435%2440%2494%24E2%242F%2429%249F%24D8A%24C0%241C0001000%214%24FF%24AB%24E6%247E0000%212%24FF0000%212%24FF%216i%24EE%243F%2414000%216%24FF%21I0&cbak=1
long link might need to be rebuilt in the URL window.

this might not be the same town you are looking for but here is one town:

Mezquital del Oro in the southern section of Zacatecas but not very
close to Jerez or Fresnillo. For more details go to the "links" area of
the group and under maps go to the "Jalisco and Zacatecas Maps" link
which is my homepage. From my home page go to the "Tepechitlan" map and
look due north of Guadalajara and you'll find this same Mezquital del
Oro and right next to Mayahua you see another Mez_____ something town.

have fun,

joseph