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Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes



Hello All,



I just want to remind everyone that it is okay to stray "a little" off
the target area [Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes] of this group in
our discussion, but if you see that a particular message you really
want to discuss requires staying "off target"
how about lets take it to private email. Just make note of the
individuals involved copy and paste their email addresses into a new
email and copy and paste whatever particulars you want to discuss.



thanks,



joseph


Rey/Reyes Name

Hi, Al. Can you provide me with more information on
your Chihuahua family. Specifically for the Saenz and
Flores. I'm researching my wife's family, and on her
mother side they are Flores and Saenz. Only they are
from Valle del Rosario. Any information will be
greatly appreciated.

Guillermo Valdez.


--- Al Duarte  wrote:

> Actually, I believe she was from Delicias,
> Chihuahua.  I have to check my
> marriage records to confirm it. But my uncle Nicanor
> Prieto was from
> Camargo, Chihuahua.  I also have Sanez, Pena,
> Fierro, Villa, Fernandez,
> Alvarez, Ortega, Leyva, and many others. from
> Camargo and San Francisco de
> Conchos.  Please see my family tree on this website.
> 
> Viva Chihuahua! And also Zacatecas!
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Alberto Duarte Prieto
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Yolanda Bobby Perez
> [mailto:windrocklili@...]
>   Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 2:47 PM
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: RE: [ranchos] Rey/Reyes Name
> 
> 
>   Al

Rey/Reyes Name

Al,
 
Are your Leyvas from Chihuahua?  I have a grandparent from my mother's side of the family who was the brother of the Leyvas who settled in Parral in the 1600's.  One of these Leybas was among the founders of New Mexico and there is a tile supposedly with his name on it at the Palace of the Governors in New Mexico. 
 
Alicia Martin del Campo de Wissing (did I do that right folks?)

Al Duarte wrote:
Actually, I believe she was from Delicias, Chihuahua.  I have to check my marriage records to confirm it. But my uncle Nicanor Prieto was from Camargo, Chihuahua.  I also have Sanez, Pena, Fierro, Villa, Fernandez, Alvarez, Ortega, Leyva, and many others. from Camargo and San Francisco de Conchos.  Please see my family tree on this website. 
 
Viva Chihuahua! And also Zacatecas!
 
Regards.
 
Alberto Duarte Prieto
-----Original Message-----
From: Yolanda Bobby Perez [mailto:windrocklili@...]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 2:47 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE:

Rey/Reyes Name

Actually, I believe she was from Delicias, Chihuahua.  I have to
check my marriage records to confirm it. But my uncle Nicanor Prieto was from
Camargo, Chihuahua.  I also have Sanez, Pena, Fierro, Villa, Fernandez,
Alvarez, Ortega, Leyva, and many others. from Camargo and San Francisco de
Conchos.  Please see my family tree on this website. 
 
Viva
Chihuahua! And also Zacatecas!
 
Regards.
 
Alberto Duarte Prieto
-----Original Message-----
From: Yolanda Bobby Perez
[mailto:windrocklili@...]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004
2:47 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos]
Rey/Reyes Name

Al,
I don't find maria in my files but, I do have about
40 Banuelas from Camargo in my tree. Three of my grandparents were born in
Camargo and perhaps Maria Flores Banuelas is connected thru the Banuelas line.
Some of my surnames in Camargo are  SAENZ, MEDINA, 
SAAVEDRA,  AGUILAR, FIERRO, RUIZREY, GUTIERRES, VASQUES, 
PORRAS,  RUBIO,  FLORES AND BANUELAS.   Do

Rey/Reyes Name

Al,
I don't find maria in my files but, I do have about 40 Banuelas from Camargo in my tree. Three of my grandparents were born in Camargo and perhaps Maria Flores Banuelas is connected thru the Banuelas line. Some of my surnames in Camargo are  SAENZ, MEDINA,  SAAVEDRA,  AGUILAR, FIERRO, RUIZREY, GUTIERRES, VASQUES,  PORRAS,  RUBIO,  FLORES AND BANUELAS.   Do you have more info  on the Banuelas line?  I know I need to submit my family lines to the ranchos group. What other lines are you researching in Camargo or Santa Rosalia, perhaps I can look in my book " CAMARGO, Dos Decadas de Subida".  Just let me know and I will look. 

Al Duarte wrote:
Yolanda:
Was Maria Flores Banulos related to you? She was married to my great-uncle Nicanor Prieto, in Camargo, Chihuahua, circa 1900.
 
Alberto Duarte Prieto.
-----Original Message-----
From: yolanda medina-perez [mailto:windrocklili@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:30 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Rey/Reyes

Surnames


I also have relatives with the name Reyes
(last name) from Jerez, Zacatecas, back in the 1800s. 
 
Alberto. 
-----Original Message-----
From: marge vallazza
[mailto:TeaCozyGran@...]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:47
AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos]
Surnames

I have an ancestress from Zacatecas in the late 1600s or early 1700s
whose name was Clara de los Reyes and she was espanola.  Marge
Vallazza:)
----- Original Message -----
From:
Al
Duarte
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:14
AM
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Surnames

Interesting information.
 
Alberto.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pacorro73@...
[mailto:Pacorro73@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:12
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
[ranchos] Surnames

 

Ranchos,

 

Soon after the Spanish Conquest of Mexico and
thereafter during Colonial times

Surnames


I have an ancestress from Zacatecas in the late 1600s or early 1700s whose
name was Clara de los Reyes and she was espanola.  Marge Vallazza:)
----- Original Message -----
From:
Al
Duarte
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:14
AM
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Surnames

Interesting information.
 
Alberto.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pacorro73@...
[mailto:Pacorro73@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:12
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
[ranchos] Surnames

 

Ranchos,

 

Soon after the Spanish Conquest of Mexico and thereafter
during Colonial times, the ruling Españoles did not permit the Native
Indians from possessing surnames unless the Indios were of a special allied
family, the Indios somehow had earned themselves a surname, or eventually
the adopted a surname out of names that were not necessarily surnames.

 

Reyes is one such last name.  Every year on January

Rey/Reyes Name

size=2>Yolanda:

Was
Maria Flores Banulos related to you? She was married to my great-uncle Nicanor
Prieto, in Camargo, Chihuahua, circa 1900.

size=2> 

size=2>Alberto Duarte Prieto.


size=2>-----Original Message-----
From: yolanda medina-perez
[mailto:windrocklili@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004
9:30 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos]
Rey/Reyes Name


I have on more than one occasion
heard that people with the Rey or
Reyes last name belong to one and the
same family. How can this be
possible??  Has anyone heard similar
comments or can anyone
elaborate. Is it a root name of another name, where
does it
orginate, does it come from another country??? In my family I have

RuizRey, Flores-Rey, Rey, these families are from the Camargo

Chihuahua area. Yet, my daughter married a Tomas Rey in El Paso,
Tx.

Are they related or what?




Surnames


Interesting information.
 
Alberto.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pacorro73@...m
[mailto:Pacorro73@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:12
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos]
Surnames

 

Ranchos,

 

Soon after the Spanish Conquest of Mexico and thereafter
during Colonial times, the ruling Españoles did not permit the Native Indians
from possessing surnames unless the Indios were of a special allied family,
the Indios somehow had earned themselves a surname, or eventually the adopted
a surname out of names that were not necessarily surnames.

 

Reyes is one such last name.  Every year on January 6, the Catholic
Church celebrates the Feast Day of the Epiphany, or Feast of the Magi, when
the three wise king visited the Baby Jesus in
Bethlehem.  In
Mexico and
Spain the day
is called Epifanía or “Día de los Reyes Magos.”  The “Reyes” were called Melchor,
Gaspar, and Baltazar.  So as a
result of this holy day, many

Surnames

Thanks for the very nice and informative e-mail on the
surnames.
--- Pacorro73@... wrote:

>   
> Ranchos,
>  
> Soon after the Spanish Conquest of Mexico and
> thereafter during Colonial 
> times, the ruling Españoles did not permit the
> Native Indians from possessing 
> surnames unless the Indios were of a special allied
> family, the Indios somehow had 
> earned themselves a surname, or eventually the
> adopted a surname out of names 
> that were not necessarily surnames.
>  
> Reyes is one such last name.  Every year on January
> 6, the Catholic Church 
> celebrates the Feast Day of the Epiphany, or Feast
> of the Magi, when the three 
> wise king visited the Baby Jesus in Bethlehem.  In
> Mexico and Spain the day is 
> called Epifanía or â??Día de los Reyes Magos.â?? 
> The â??Reyesâ?? were called 
> Melchor, Gaspar, and Baltazar.  So as a result of
> this holy day, many children born 
> on or near the holy-day were named one or a
> combination of the following:  
> José