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Relationship terminology

Guillermo,

Take a look at one of these charts to see what "cousin once removed 
means"?

http://www.rootsweb.com/~genepool/cousins.htm
http://www.heirsearch.com/table.htm
http://stellar-one.com/genealogy/cousins.htm

The charts all basically show the same thing...

Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Guillermo Valdez  wrote:
> Being born and raised in Mexico I can tell you what I
> know. I hope it is simple to understand. Any cousin of
> your parents, regardless of the level (1st, 2nd, etc)
> represents yout tio or tia (uncle or aunt). There is
> no limit as far as I know. 
> 
> Also, can anybody now explain to a mexican person what
> a "cousin once removed means"?
> 
> Guillermo.
>




Primo: Pedigree Resource Files



I just found something that is probably old news for most of you. I was
looking around the Pedigree Resource File (PRF) and found this person:


Submitter:

Benicio Samuel Sanchez
GARCIA

Ramon Lopez Velarde 729 Contry La Silla Guadalupe, Nuevo Leon, Mexico
67173







Submission Search:  35342-0506104220903
URL: 

CD-ROM:  Pedigree
Resource File - Compact Disc #88

CD-ROM
Features: 
Pedigree
View, Family View, Individual View, Reports, Downloadable GEDCOM files,
Notes and Sources.
Order Pedigree Resource File CD-ROMS



if you click on the "Submission Search: number" you will go to a search
window and just click on "search" and you will

Relationship terminology

      FYI
 
 
           I week to Chihuahua about a year ago to meet my cousins for the first time and their children addressed me as tio.
 
 
Arturo Romero

Deena Ortiz wrote:

        In a recent conversation, an adult relative of my husband (the son
of my husband's cousin brother -- his first cousin, once removed in English)
informed me that my husband was his tío.  I wasn't about to argue, but I
don't think he is correct.  However, I do not know the terminology for
Spanish genealogical relationships.

        Is there a publication that has it all laid out?  If it has already
been discussed and is in the archives, I apologize for the query, and I'll
look it up.

        In English, each succeeding generation is a new level of cousin -- 
as long as both lines are represented, yours and your relative's.  If you
reach the end of one line, the level of kinship (cousinship) stays the
same,
but the generation moves until the end of the other line is reached.  (I
know -- that was

Pedigree Resource File


Joseph I tried entering my dta but was not able to do it. Sorry cant be of help.
 
 
Arturo
Joseph Puentes wrote:



I just submitted my privatized .gedcom to the www.familysearch.org
site as a Pedigree Resource File submission. Has anyone on the list
done this before? So how does this work? Does every single name in the
.gedcom get put in so that the search engine will pull it up by surname?

just as an example here is some of their listings:

6. Angela Castreje Diaz - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: F Birth/Christening: Argentina
7. Ana Jova Diaz - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: F Birth/Christening: 17 Sep 1923 Bustinza, Pcia.Santa Fe,
Argentina
8. Antonia DÍAZ - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: F Birth/Christening: Argentina

how is it that the brief info following the name comes into the search
engine results? Is it that the search engine picks out the exact
wording in the .gedcom including the place of birth and puts it into
the
results? . . .as in the above example?

thanks,

joseph






Arturo

Relationship terminology

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Guillermo - " x times removed" is an Anglo-Saxon family term associated
with distance in a relationship. Historically,  Hispanic families did not
generally practice distancing, shunning, banishment, etc., therefore,
Hispanic families did not use such family descriptions. This continues
throughout present day Latin America.

Relationship terminology

Being born and raised in Mexico I can tell you what I
know. I hope it is simple to understand. Any cousin of
your parents, regardless of the level (1st, 2nd, etc)
represents yout tio or tia (uncle or aunt). There is
no limit as far as I know. 

Also, can anybody now explain to a mexican person what
a "cousin once removed means"?

Guillermo.

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> Well now we might be opening up a can of worms. I've
> lived all my life 
> following what you just said. If a cousin of mine
> had a kid his kids 
> would call me Tio. BUT since starting genealogy I've
> heard that this is 
> technically not correct and that the rules in Mexico
> didn't allow for 
> this. So how can we find out what the "official"
> Mexico rules are for 
> relationships?
> 
> Just as a side note I have an 82 year old 2nd cousin
> once removed (he 
> and my dad would have been 2nd cousins) who is a
> Priest in Jerez, 
> Zacatecas. I would like to know the rules but
> regardless of the rules

Relationship terminology

The term "politico(a)" in spanish is equivalent to the
term "in-law" in english.

Guillermo.
--- docrjr@... wrote:

> In Mexico, when cousins have children, the children
> refer to the adults as  
> "tio" or "tia". When an uncle or aunt weds, their
> respective spouse is referred 
>  to as "tio or tia" (politico (a)) also. The
> "politica" makes reference to 
> the  fact that they are uncle or aunt by marriage,
> not  blood.
> 



		
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Spanish Abbreviations/Bloodline Relationships


http://www.dropby.com/indexLF.html?content=/Genealogia/

thanks much to Steven Hernandez for explaining and supplying the link to the above page. I noticed on my end
that there seemed to be a problem so you might need to use the above link and click on Parentesco to access
the material. I'm putting a link to this page in the links page.

thanks Steven,


joseph