--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> >
> Well I'm going to be brief and then refer you to Gary Felix: 
> http://members.tripod.com/~GaryFelix/index63.htm also within this group 
> Angel Cervantes is very capable of talking circles around me.
> 
> What I meant was that I found inidications (markers) that seem to 
> indicate multinational ethnicity:
.....

Thanks for explaining!  

What about mtDNA?  Did you also got your maternal HG?

I plan on doing the 25 YDNA and the mtDNA.  I'm pretty sure I'll get European and Amerindian respectively.  The question is which ones!

Victor

Just Wondering:

is there a list of surnames that were "assigned" to the Indios as they
were assimiliated into mainstream Catholicism? I mean I know that some
surnames that exist today find their origin in that they were first
"assigned" to Indios as they came into the church AND others received
common Spanish Surnames. But those that received the common surnames is
there any indication as to if all and every name was eligible for an
Indio to receive? or were there certain names that Indios would
absolutely never receive?

thanks,

joseph

a member of the GEN-HISPANIC-L@... group wants to know if we
have any Vigils in the group. Well are there any that would like to come
forward?

thanks,

joseph

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> Amazing things continue to happen. . .its the new year and I just got 
> back from a most remarkable weekend in Atlanta. . .its amazing how even 
> an abundance of alcohol can't keep me from thinking about genealogy. 
> Seems that every barmaid was a possible cousin once I found out what her 
> historical ethnic roots were and compared them with my recent 
> multinational DNA results. Yes a most remarkable weekend in Atlanta!
> 
> . . .

Multinational DNA results???

Would you mind elaborating a little bit more on this.  I have decided to take a DNA test myself and I'm very interested in your opinions.

Victor

Hi,

As all of you must surely know, when the time comes to take your research to the field or to simply to locate one of those strange sounding Mexican towns, a good map is an indispensable tool. For those searching for a good online map of a Mexican state, let me share with you the following link to the "Instituto de Estadistica Geografía e Informática" or INEGI for short: http://www.inegi.gob.mx/inegi/default.asp

First, select the state you're looking for in the upper left combo box.
Next, click in the label "Información Geográfica" almost at the top and center of the page.
Finally, on the first section of "Datos Generales" find and click on "Condensado estatal en formato raster"

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Hi, 

As all of you must surely know, when the time comes to take your research to the field or to simply to locate one of those strange sounding Mexican towns, a good map is an indispensable tool. For those searching for a good online map of a Mexican state, let me share with you the following link to the "Instituto de Estadistica Geografía e Informática" or INEGI for short: http://www.inegi.gob.mx/inegi/default.asp 

First, select the state you're looking for in the upper left combo box. 
Next, click in the label "Información Geográfica" almost at the top and center of the page. 
Finally, on the first section of "Datos Generales" find and click on "Condensado estatal en formato raster" 

Depending on your internet connection speed, downloading these maps to your screen could take several minutes, but the wait is well worth it and it is free. What you get is a map in "pdf" format (You need Acrobat Reader) and the detail on these maps is the best I've seen, even when compared to

Joseph,

I've already introduced myself to you, but if I may, I would like to post a brief introduction to other members of the Ranchos group.

My name is Victor Villarreal and I'm from Tamaulipas, México.

My paternal surname and ancestry is mostly found in northeast México, particularly Nuevo León, but my maternal surname leads me back to Jalisco, Zacatecas and even Aguascalientes.

My mother's surnames are Villagrana and Martel, but in tracing back these two surnames through the IGI so far I've found also the following surnames: 

Pinedo, Colunga , Del Real, Serrano, Arana, Alvarado, Marquez, Lopez, Perez, Rosales, Sanchez, Hurtado, Morillo, Sandoval, Tovar, Balbuena and Raygosa.

Geographically, the most significant places or rather starting places are Totatiche and Villa Guerrero in Jalisco, and Monte Escobedo in Zacatecas,  but other places (in no particular order) that are mentioned in some of the parish documents are el Salitre, el Salto, el Terrerito, Mezquitic Bolaños, Ojo