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Marriage Records of Nochistlan

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Steven can you fill us in on why some of those films cover overlapping
years. . .I'm late for work now otherwise I'd copy and print some
examples but I've noticed some are something like:

1830-1899 [xxxxxxx]

1799-1856 [xxxxxxx]

1845-1900 [xxxxxxx]

thus i f you are looking for a dispensation you would need to order all
three films. has that been your experience that you just need to bite
the bullet and order all 3 or is there a way to distinguish which films
to order. I guess I'm wondering why were there these overlapps???

gracias Steven,

joseph

Pacorro73@... wrote:

In a message dated 2/22/2005 5:06:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
drortiz@... writes:

In reading the microfilms of marriage records for Nochistlán,
Zacatecas, I was disappointed to find that there are no parents
identified for the bride and groom for the first third of the 18th
century (till about 1733) nor for much of the year 1752.

Since they had to prove their relationship

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Marriage Records of Nochistlan

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In a message dated 2/22/2005 5:06:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
drortiz@... writes:

In reading the microfilms of marriage records for Nochistlán, Zacatecas,
I was disappointed to find that there are no parents identified for the bride
and groom for the first third of the 18th century (till about 1733) nor for
much of the year 1752.

Since they had to prove their
relationship was distant enough, I'm assuming that information was recorded
elsewhere. Can someone suggest where I should
look.

This sounds like the couple needed a dispensation to marry. This
stuff is right up my alley, so to speak. I am rather familiar with
marriage dispensations, where both the bride and the groom were related to one
another.

If indeed there was a dispensa, then it will be archived in the Sagrada
Mitra de Guadalajara, and all of them have been microfilmed, but none extracted
into the IGI. These are part of the Archdiocese of Guadalajara
microfilms. I have

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Marriage Records of Nochistlan

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Deena Ortiz wrote:

In reading the microfilms of
marriage records for Nochistlán, Zacatecas, I was disappointed to find
that there are no parents identified for the bride and groom for the
first third of the 18th century (till about 1733) nor for much of the
year 1752.

Since they had to prove
their relationship was distant enough, I'm assuming that information
was recorded elsewhere. Can someone suggest where I should look.

I'm not sure they are available but was there a corresponding
Informacion Matrimonio Film for that year?

        All my lines end at Film #
0226725 unless I have found them in Genealogía de Nochistlán Antiguo
Reino de la Nueva Galicia en el Siglo XVII según sus Archivos
Parroquiales by José Luis Vázquez y Rodríguez de Frías,
which I value highly but which is a secondary source.


    (By the way, I am not traveling to Nochistlán in the spring. I am
quite disappointed, but am hoping that I can go next year

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Marriage Records of Nochistlan

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In reading the microfilms of marriage
records for Nochistlán, Zacatecas, I was disappointed to find that there are no
parents identified for the bride and groom for the first third of the 18th
century (till about 1733) nor for much of the year 1752.

Since they had to prove their
relationship was distant enough, I'm assuming that information was recorded
elsewhere. Can someone suggest where I should look.

All my lines end at Film # 0226725
unless I have found them in Genealogía de Nochistlán Antiguo Reino de la
Nueva Galicia en el Siglo XVII según sus Archivos Parroquiales by
José Luis Vázquez y Rodríguez de Frías, which I value highly but which is a
secondary source.

(By the
way, I am not traveling to Nochistlán in the spring. I am quite
disappointed, but am hoping that I can go next year.)

~Deena
Ortiz~

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Tip Of Ice Burg - was:% of Films Transcribed to IGI

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Well yes a couple. We live in a wonderous time when sources for
genealogy research are plentiful. It used to be that the only way
people could do their research was by traveling to the area or
requesting info from the area via the Postal System. With the great
information we have from the LDS system our opportunities are
tremendously increased for having success in finding info in a way that
is convenient to our lifestyles. All that being said I'd like to say a
couple of things with regards to what is available via the LDS system
and outside the LDS system:

1) they have a fabulous collection of books available only at their
central location, but some are on fiche/microfilm. They do take
requests to microfilm books but this can more often than not be
unsuccessful since they need to get the authors permission before doing
so.

2) As we know they have a tremendous amount of films that have been
transcribed with the information put into the various databases: IGI,
etc.

3) they have

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% of Films Transcribed to IGI

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Hi Peggy,

It appears to be so.  Such is the case of those films from Valparaiso 
that started this discussion.  What you can do is go to the Family 
History Library Catalog and do a Place Search

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

Then select the place out of the list;  in the place details select 
the topic of your interest, for example, Church records.  Then in 
topic details select one of the titles.  Finaly, in the title details 
click the upper right button "View Film Details".  

There you will see all the films that are available for the locality 
of your choice, whether they are in the IGI or not.  Hope this helps!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Peggy Delgado"  wrote:
> I have a question.  I was looking for some film numbers on the LDS 
library
> (for my great-grandmother) and they stopped at a certain year and I 
needed
> them to go farther.  Does this mean that they, the microfilms and 
their
> numbers, haven't been

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% of Films Transcribed to IGI

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Jose, yes,
thanks for all your hard work. I
was wondering how the information made it from the films to the data we see on
the Internet. I sometimes get
impatient that I can’t find the names I want online, totally forgetting that
there’s some poor soul going through stacks of films, such as yourself, deciphering
names, and entering data.

Thanks,
thanks, thanks!!!!

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From: zendean
[mailto:usa20@...]

Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005
5:48 PM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: % of
Films Transcribed to IGI

color:black">Victor; I don't know the percentages. I know that I have a stack of 2,500 color:black">

names that must be reviewed for posting and I am still working on the film..

I think that there are others who still are working on a film for the

postings. I wish I had a book with just names to use as a reference !

After I finish there is a review of those that I've done soas to be sure

that the names i have cleared are then reviewed

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% of Films Transcribed to IGI

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I have a
question. I was looking for some
film numbers on the LDS library (for my great-grandmother) and they stopped at
a certain year and I needed them to go farther. Does this mean that they, the microfilms and their numbers,
haven’t been captured yet? I was
afraid that they just didn’t exist.

Peggy
Delgado

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From: Victor Villarreal
[mailto:vela_este@...]

Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005
8:41 PM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ranchos] Re: % of Films
Transcribed to IGI

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Joseph, I'm afraid that the percentage of films yet to be captured to

the IGI is quite significant, because using the batch number list in

Ranchos2 and going thru the list number by number for several

localities of my interest many of them didn't return any records.

And I mean any records, not just the ones I'm looking for.

This is an unexpected finding for me. Any comments?

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes wrote:

> well

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% of Films Transcribed to IGI

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Hello
All! I can attest to the fact that
not all film is on the IGI. I was
looking for the birth record of my maternal grandmother who was born in Sierra
Mojada, Coahuila and it wasn’t on the IGI but I went and ordered the microfilm
and found her – and found that she had a twin brother!!!! I thought, though,
that this was a standard thing and not to take the IGI data, or lack thereof,
to heart and to keep looking.

Peggy
Delgado

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From: Victor Villarreal
[mailto:vela_este@...]

Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005
11:51 AM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ranchos] Re: % of Films
Transcribed to IGI

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Hello Jose,

Thanks for your message and for your magnificent work. I suppose

there are many more volunteers like you. The work you have done

ís

outstanding, to say the least!

So, if I understand correctly, even for those batch numbers that are

already published on the IGI database, is it possible that you might

have skipped one or more

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% of Films Transcribed to IGI

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Joseph, I'm afraid that the percentage of films yet to be captured to 
the IGI is quite significant, because using the batch number list in 
Ranchos2 and going thru the list number by number for several 
localities of my interest many of them didn't return any records.  
And I mean any records, not just the ones I'm looking for.

This is an unexpected finding for me.  Any comments?

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> well thank you so much for this work you are doing. . .commendable. 
I 
> thought about doing it but realized I couldn't commit to that kind 
of 
> committment. I did a volunteer job on the 1910 Census and boy that 
use a 
> lot of time. So I can't do it again unless my situation changes. 
Thanks 
> for your efforts. What area are you working on? Have you done other 
> films? Is there a list of films somewhere that has which films are 
in 
> "Que" to be done next? Are there other Jalisco, Zacatecas, or 
> Aguascalientes films that

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