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                                       Leticia Leon

Angie Godina sends these instructions on how to use PAF 4.0 to send in
your genealogy. . .was it Leticia Leon that asked originally?

PAF 4.0 English Instructions

For an Ancestor Report
1. Select the Ancestor (Parent, Grandparent, ...) for
report.
2. From the File menu, select the 'Print Reports...'
option.
3. From the Reports and Charts panel, select the Books
tab.  The starting person will be the ancestor that
was selected from step 1.
4. For book type, select Ahnentafel (Ancestry) radio
button.
5. Choose the desired options or leave the default
options.
6. Select the 'Print to File' check box.
7. Select the Print button.

Note: For a Descendancy Report, select an end-of-line
ancestor and then select the Modified register
(Descendancy) radio button

PAF 4.0 Instrucciones en Español

Para un
Informe Antepasado

1. Escoge su pariente (Padre, Abuelo, ...) para el
In

the messages have been coming in hot and heavy as of late. I want to
remind everyone that changing your subscription to "DIGEST" is an option
and a better option than considering unsubscribing. Even if digest is to
much you can always go on "no mail" and just read the messages on the WWW.

if you don't know how to change to Digest just email me and I'll change
it for you.

joseph

ps: Digest means that instead of each individual message from the group
coming into your "INBOX" you will get one or at most two messages per
day with all the activity of that day. It will be a large message or
'digest.'

Mary:

I'm also a collector of photos and have "classics" in
my colletion.  You may come across some "classic
photos" they may not want to part with.  Here is a
suggestion.  I don't know if there are local kinko
stores, probably have to drive to the larger towns but
make a copies for yourself.  I had one family from
CA., send me pictures and I scanned them in my
computer, made copies, then sent the originals back. 
Also it's nice to give them a photo of yourself and
family (sharing) makes the difference.  I have reached
out to so many cousins and as a matter fact just
received a photo yesterday from my prima in Los
Angeles.  

Have a safe trip and I think it's wonderful you are
visiting your relatives.  

Carol
--- Mary Allen  wrote:

> Joseph!! I'm on a roll.  From Mexico City I am
> flying to Guanajuato.  I found another "cousin", 72
> years old, who promises photos and a lot more
> information.  I can hardly stand the wait.  I am
> trying to get everything caught

Joseph,

I have already sent him an email telling him about Rosalinda's
interest in some documents from the Archivo General de la Nación.  I
will ask him next time if it is OK to have his contact information in
one of the private sections of the group.

Regarding your other question about service rates, he explained that
he usually finds out what type of document is requested before quoting
a price.  As you can understand it is not the same transcribing a XVI
century manuscript than a XVII century.  Other thing to consider is
the document's lenght.  All this applies where you know the exact
reference to the document you want, that is, the index numbers from
the AGN search engine.  If someone has just a vague idea about a
person, place or event and wants to find what information is available
that is whole different project.

And finally, in regard to Marge's question, I sent my payment by
"Dinero Express" of Banco Azteca, a service like Western Union. 
Although it is possible that there

How did you send his payment? Marge:)



On Oct 14, 2005, at 9:24 PM, v.h.villarreal wrote:

Rosalinda,



If you or anyone else ever needs to research a document at AGN, I met

a gentleman (via another genealogy forum) that resides in Mexico City

and can provide that kind of services for a very reasonable fee.



I recently asked him to get me a transcription of a couple of

documents from the 1740s and I was very satisfied with his

paleographic work.  He also got and sent me via email an scanned image

of a section from a 1594 "Testamento".



Victor



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Hi all--



Here's the main page for the Archivo:



http://www.agn.gob.mx/inicio.php?cu=in



I found under "instrumentos de consulta" some search  pages.



http://www.agn.gob.mx/inicio.php?cu=ic&sc=ic



If you click Argenta III, then Argento II, you can then enter a search

name/word, and you can select under the pull-down menu Groupo

Documental "999 Todos los groupos documentos," which is

Emilie,
My understanding is that NARA has not yet finished the filming of all 
the border crossing records (@Mexican border). They started with the 
smaller points of entry, leaving El Paso, TX for last. I think they 
hope to have filming completed by the end of 2006.
Have you seen the following site (explains the NARA plan)?:
www.archives.gov/genealogy/immigration/border-mexico.html
NOTE: border crossing records were created/kept 1903-1950; the first 
format of the records were based on records for ship manifests (records 
for 1903-1910)- this proved inefficient for folks entering on foot, and 
the format was revised and revised again over the years. I hope this 
information helps a bit. I, too, am waiting to see those El Paso 
records; my father crossed the border (age 4 yrs) at El Paso in 1916.

Have a good day - take care.

Natalie in VA

Angie Godina sends these instructions on how to use PAF 4.0 to send in
your genealogy. . .was it Leticia Leon that asked originally?

PAF 4.0 English Instructions

For an Ancestor Report
1. Select the Ancestor (Parent, Grandparent, ...) for
report.
2. From the File menu, select the 'Print Reports...'
option.
3. From the Reports and Charts panel, select the Books
tab.  The starting person will be the ancestor that
was selected from step 1.
4. For book type, select Ahnentafel (Ancestry) radio
button.
5. Choose the desired options or leave the default
options.
6. Select the 'Print to File' check box.
7. Select the Print button.

Note: For a Descendancy Report, select an end-of-line
ancestor and then select the Modified register
(Descendancy) radio button

PAF 4.0 Instrucciones en Español

Para un Informe Antepasado

1. Escoge su pariente (Padre, Abuelo, ...) para el
Informe.
2. Del Archivo menú, escoge 'Imprimir Informes...'
opción.

3. Del Informes y Cuadros panel, escoge Libros tab.

Emilie:

I live just a few blocks from NARA's main building here in Washington 
DC.  If you give me your father's full information I can try and look 
him up when I am down there next.  I still have not found my 
grandfather's border crossing records either and the people at NARA 
are not very helpful... the records and films are not very easily 
useable and the films are horrible quality as well.  It really makes 
me appreciate the FHC and the quality of LDS films, systems, etc.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"  
wrote:
>
> To Michael Gonsalez:
> 
> Thanks for the information you provided to Joseph below.  I had to 
laugh at the part where you say "those of us who are still in the 
early 1900s researching our great grand parents and their brothers 
and sisters".  It made me feel so old.  I am trying to find an 
immigration record for my father. He came from Zacatecas in 1913 
through the border crossing at El Paso TX.  I would so much like to 
see

Mary,

Depending on the type of record you have at home it may not be as
accurate as the baptismal record. For the purpose of establishing a
date of birth a baptismal record would be considered the primary
source, than say a death record. The person giving the deceased's
date of birth for the death certificate was

Mary,

Depending on the type of record you have at home it may not be as 
accurate as the baptismal record. For the purpose of establishing a 
date of birth a baptismal record would be considered the primary 
source, than say a death record. The person giving the deceased's 
date of birth for the death certificate was anyone but the deceased, 
so they could easily make a mistake.  The spelling of the name 
(Refugio vs. Refugia) I wouldn't be too concerned with either.  I've 
seen records where the priest writes the name two different ways in 
the same record!  If all the names and the place and time period 
match up, then it is likely the same Petra Romero you are researching.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen  
wrote:
>
> I actually do have that record and I have been studying it because 
in records at home I found her birthdate as June 8, 1873.  Perhaps 
the 1872 date is incorrect.    I recall as a girl that she would 
insist she was indeed from

Rosalinda,

If you or anyone else ever needs to research a document at AGN, I met
a gentleman (via another genealogy forum) that resides in Mexico City
and can provide that kind of services for a very reasonable fee.

I recently asked him to get me a transcription of a couple of
documents from the 1740s and I was very satisfied with his
paleographic work.  He also got and sent me via email an scanned image
of a section from a 1594 "Testamento".

Victor

-----------------------------------------------

Hi all--
 
Here's the main page for the Archivo:
 
http://www.agn.gob.mx/inicio.php?cu=in
 
I found under "instrumentos de consulta" some search  pages. 
 
http://www.agn.gob.mx/inicio.php?cu=ic&sc=ic
 
If you click Argenta III, then Argento II, you can then enter a search
name/word, and you can select under the pull-down menu Groupo
Documental "999 Todos los groupos documentos," which is the last
choice.  Then  you can search all of the categories.
 
It appears they offer services as

Linda,

FYI, there is a free edition of Legacy Family Tree software.
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/
It lacks some of the functions of the Deluxe Edition but it still does
so much, including the report I wrote about.

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Erlinda Castanon-Long"
 wrote:
>
> Victor, thank you for your tips, I've been told Legacy is the 
> Cadillac of genealogy softwear and I will keep it in mind as my next 
> purchase of genealogy tools. My computer skills are limited and it's 
> a learn as I go project.  I just started using the Family Tree 
> program that allows me to put in people who are not related to each 
> other so that when I can tie in a line I only have to merge them, 
> what a blessing that has been!
> thanks again, Linda
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Linda,
> > 
> > I have developed a somewhat similar system but I make use of a
> > function built into my genealogy software

Arturo,

I've been to the Ixtlahuacan del Rio parrish twice. My first time 
going I called about a month prior to my trip and asked for the 
specific records. The girl agreed to have them ready when I got 
there. When I arrived the girl was very nice, but said she hadn't had 
time to get the records, but she still had the list of names and 
dates. There were quite a few and I offered to help her look through 
the books. She allowed me to look through the books and get xerox 
copies!  The books were from the early to mid 1800's and were in 
fairly good shape. The cover appeared to be a piece of leather and 
for a clasp it had a string wound around a button. I had taken a gift 
to her and she was very happy.  I offered a donation at the end, but 
she would not take it.

My second trip was not as fruitful. There were two teenagers working 
there who were not very helpful and the office was full people 
waiting for help. I had a fairly long list, and they were having 
trouble finding the