Thanks you Erik for this new information on Lázaro Martin del Campo .    I descend from Lázaro numerous times.  

Rick A. Ricci

I don’t have them as children of Francisco Gonzalez Martinez cc Magdalena de Lavezares, but if either of them is, it’d be Magdalena Gonzalez cc Nicolas Sandoval, because from the kinship given in the dispensa of Lorenzo Mexia cc Magdalena Santillan, Magdalena de Lavezares cc Geronimo Sandoval was their granddaughter. The dispensa has the betrothed at 4o con 4o (and 4o con 3o in another line), but doesn’t explain the relationship, but from other records, the probable kinship is this:

Bernardino de Isla-1- ? ? ? ?
Juan de Isla-2-Magdalena Lavezares (cc Geronimo Sandoval)
Mariana de Isla-3-Cristobal Sandoval
Lorenzo Mexia-4-Magdalena Santillan

Using the process of elimination, Magdalena’s parents would have to be either Ynes Gonzalez cc Juan Gonz Hidalgo, or Andrea Lavezares cc Juan de la Cruz Martin Bermejo (Diego Gonzalez had a daughter named Magdalena, but she married Antonio Tovar Legazpi, and Juana Gonzalez cc Marcos Gonzalez had no children).

Dispensa, Lorenzo Mexia cc Magdalena Santillan: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-6RSJ-1M?i=245&wc=3J4W-…
 

Saludos!

Manny Díez Hermosillo

Manny,

There's always the possibility that Captain Francisco de Tavera and Nicolas Ramirez (Tavera) could've been brothers. They seem not to have been too separated in age.

HFA

Hello again, Manny! 

I was adjusting Diego Ysquierdo's birthdate (I guessed him "about 1621" which I know now to be impossible), and decided to check Ana's household in the 1669 Padron of Lagos because I remember seeing a Sanchez noted as living with her. 

After staring at the page for about a minute, I realized thanks to your new information, that almost the entire page deals with Ana's extended family group and the people living on their properties. A real eye opener!

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9K8-KY67

Manny, that is incredible. 

This new information impacts my tree (Tavera/Ysquierda/Ñagas) so thank you very much for sharing. 

Best,

Travis

Hello everyone,

I found the following info in Pares:

https://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas20/catalogo/description/496280

Titulo Nombre Atribuido:Ejecutoria del pleito litigado por Brígida Gómez, mujer de Hernando de Zorita, con Inés Gómez, mujer de Gaspar de Castañeda, vecinas de Aldeaseca de la Frontera (Salamanca), sobre la rendición de cuentas de la curaduría y administración de los bienes de Brigida Gómez, que tuvo a su cargo Gaspar de Castañeda

Signatura:REGISTRO DE EJECUTORIAS,CAJA 404,70

Fecha Creación:1528-02-12

Nivel de Descripción:Unidad Documental Simple

Código de Referencia:ES.47186.ARCHV//REGISTRO DE EJECUTORIAS,CAJA 404,70

It tells us that Beatriz's parents were already married by 1528, and a a connection with Castañeda.

Best,

HFA

You might already have this one: dated 19 Jul 1565 in Villa de los Lagos, it’s regarding a land grant made by Hernan Martel to Pedro de Anda, his wife, Beatriz de Castañeda, and her sister, Margarita Gomez. Also mentioned is Juan de Zorita, who I believe was Beatriz de Castañeda’s brother (?): https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-D9XR-T?i=135&cat=…

It starts on Image 134, with their son, Esteban de Anda y Castañeda, selling one of the sitios to Alonso de Torres, on 2 May 1605.

Saludos,
Manny Díez Hermosillo

Though some of my lines intermarried with the Anda’s, I don’t descend from them, so I haven’t researched them much. But, Pedro de Anda (born ca 1563, so I assume he was the younger) was one of the founders of San Luis Potosi, and he and his brother, Esteban de Anda (ca 1577), appear a lot in the SLP notary archives during those first decades, so I’d suggest you direct some of your attention to those archives. FamilySearch offers that new AI search feature, so you can do filtered searches.

Good luck, and share what you find!

Manny Díez Hermosillo

Not necessarily. It was probably just a legal formality, in case the spouse wanted to remarry. Coincidentally, I was just transcribing a marriage investigation that got snagged, because the husband was from Spain, and had been married previously, and he needed to provide proof that he was "libre de matrimonio," and had unfortunately lost a signed affidavit from his home parish, confirming his first wife's death. 

Have you found the couple's marriage record? Another way to see whether they were legitimately married is to look at the baptism/birth records, and see if it says the child was legitimate.

Saludos!

Manny Díez Hermosillo

I’m sure you probably know that some IMs for Cienega de Mata during the late 1600s can be found in the Asuncion de Maria parish in Aguascalientes? If not, I see several Luna’s - all of them Indios, including an IM for Don Cristobal HL de Don Cristobal cc Beatriz Ynes. George Fulton indexed those IMs years ago, and uploaded them to the reference files here at NR. The filmrolls have since been rearranged, but the roll numbers remain the same, you’ll just have to go by the dates. You can download the PDFs here: https://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18014

Also, Encinillas was historically in the parish of San Matias, Pinos, Zacatecas. While there are records for Indian baptisms dating back to the late 1600s, they are well-indexed and easily found. But the IMs go back to 1650, so try digging around in that film roll. Perhaps there’s a marriage in there, and sometimes you can find ancestors appears as testigos.

I had also indexed sacramental records done in San Matias, 1613-1647, but I just checked them, and I see no Luna’s. But if you want to check, the pdf can be downloaded here: https://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/24112

Good luck!

Manny Díez Hermosillo

Hola Travis,

Los Pérez de Santoyo (Pérez de Hoyos, Pérez Quintana, Pérez Quintana de Hoyos, etc.) son una familia española que se estableció en Salmanca (Guanajuato) en su fundación (1602) en la figura de Juan Pérez Quintana, de quien tu Juan podría ser hijo o nieto. Fue una familia muy prolífica y destacada en la region de El Bajío. Muy probablemente tu Juan haya nacido en Salamanca. Lamentablemente, los registros de bautismos de esa villa empiezan en 1651 y los matrimonios en 1689 (Juan debió nacer alrededor de 1620) y no hay registros parroquiales de esos fechas en los principales lugares de la región en donde estuvieron los Pérez de Santoyo (Celaya, Salamanca, Salvatierra, Valle de Santiago). Como cosa curiosa, el cura José María Morelos y Pavón era, por varonía, un Pérez de Santoyo.

Juan y Antonia de Mendoza casaron en Santa María de los Lagos el 3 de agosto de 1643 ( Santa María de los Lagos. Bautismos 1634–1665).

El primer Ornelas en Salamanca aparece en 1685 en la figura de María de Ornelas, mujer de Juan Pérez Quintana, ambos mestizos, padres de Melchora.

Es más probable que Jerónima de Ornelas sea pariente de Antonia de Villegas / Mendoza.

Saludos,

Héctor

Joseph,

Sounds like a pretty cool site.   Another one that is not as sophisticated, but works for me is: Transkribus

I have some very old Latin documents from England that are pretty much unreadable to me (from the 1550's).  With Transkribus, you drop your document onto their online folder, and it begins scanning (multiple passes).  When the scans have been completed, it offers you the choice of copying the transcribed document to a .PDF, .DOC, or Clipboard (as plain text).  The document scans are fairly quick, usually within a few minutes.

The thing is, once transcribed, you need to go to another free app, like "Google Translate", and convert the Latin transcription to a language you may need, in my case just plain ole English.  It is hit and miss on accuracy, but for me "something" is better then nothing (in most cases).

I only use the free version (apparently 50 free scans per month), but apparently the paid version can clean these documents up even further.

Hopefully this technology (AI) can continue to advance document interpretation, which is a major block for some researchers (such as myself) when getting back beyond the 1600's.

Lee