INVENTING RACE/LA INVENCION DEL MESTIZAJE

Probably many of you know about this already, but those who do not, 
and who live in California, I recommend you to visit the Los Angeles 
County Museum of Art. They are holding an exhibition of Mexican 
Casta Painting from the eighteen century. I think this is a very 
unique oportunity that you shouldn't pass, because this is one of 
the biggest gatherings of casta paintings, around 200, many of them 
from private collections. I went to visit the museum yesterday and 
was very delighted at seeing those paintings that reflect the 
lifestyles of the New Spain. Again, those of you who live in 
southern California, don't miss this opportunity. And those who do 
not live in California, take an airplane and enjoy this collection. 
They are going to be held at LACMA until August 8, and after that 
they are all going to different museums and private homes all around 
the world. To find more information, check the LACMA website at 
www.lacma.org and click on the link INVENTING RACE. They also

Mexican Webpages: URL

Hey Joseph, I knew about that link already, but apparently this 
website was deleted some weeks ago. That's too bad because there was 
plenty of information about each municipio of Jalisco in that 
website.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, makas@n... wrote:
> 
> okay I've put up a bunch of pages for Ranchos in Jalisco, 
Zacatecas and 
> one for Aguascalientes
> 
> I've also found this website that has a search engine for a few 
other 
> pages that i don't have time to link to just yet.
> 
> http://www.e-local.gob.mx/enciclo/jalisco/mpios/14019a.htm


LostLink: Family Ancestral


someone sent in a great URL quite awhile back something to the effect
of Family Ancestral something.


it had a great search engine to documents from the Durango Diocesis I
believe that incorporated mostly Northern Mexico but included some
things from Zacatecas.


If i've given enough information for someone to remember what I'm
talking about and send me the Lost URL again, I'd appreciate it very much.


thanks,

joseph. . .el viejito



Introduction

Hello everyone. I am George Luna, a recent addition to the ranchos 
group. I started last July researching my family. I knew my 
grandparents names (Casimiro Luna and Maria Marquez) and that one of 
my uncles was born in Juanchorrey. My mother's side of the family
is from El Paso via Chihuahua so I excluded that side of the family 
in my file. Joseph's advice about oral history is great, but in my
case no one (my father and his three brothers and sister) didn't
want to talk about their father when I first got interested in 1973. 
I dropped the subject (a mistake, but I was busy with family and a 
career as a Math professor) until I semi retired (teaching one 
quarter per year). 

My father was born in Taft, California and one brother and sister in 
Arizona and Bakersfield, California, resp. I knew that my grandmother 
and the 5 children were deported to Mexicali in the early thirties 
and that they grew up in Tijuana, BC. My father was working in San 
Diego in 1943 when he was drafted

Welcome Jodiah

Hi Jodiah,

I so much wish I lived close to Bancroft Library. Gloria Delgado sent me
a scan of a map of Jalisco she found at Bancroft. You might want to
check things out there as they have wonderful resources for the Mexican
Genealogist.


welcome to the group.

if i could lend one piece of advice that will serve you well in years to
come: Collect as much oral history as you can!!!


joseph



jodiahcastro wrote:

I am glad to have found this group and that Joseph has accepted my
request for membership!  I have been lurking here for 1 1/2 weeks and
have made good use of the message archive during that time.  Now I
feel it is time to introduce myself, and my research:

My name is Jodiah Castro and I live in Berkeley CA.  I am 29 years old
and have always been interested in where we have come from as a
family, although that interest only turned into actual research when I
decided to map my living relatives for an upcoming family reunion.  It
is so easy to know your elders as tio

New member greetings, and introducttion

Jodiah,
 
I am very glad to see that you have joined the group.  I, too, am a Castro descendant.  Unfortunately I have just begun my research and am hitting a lot of brick walls.  That's why I am glad to see you in the Rachos Group!
 
The farthest Castro I have traced is my GGgrandfather, Vicente Castro (b. about 1860-1866).  This information is all from my grandmother's  death certificate.  We are originally from Sain Alto, Zacatecas.  I don't know where Vicente and his family were originally from. 
 
I have started looking at your Castro genealogy in hopes of making some sort o a connection.  I'll let you know.
 
Welcome!
Dora
 


jodiahcastro wrote:

I am glad to have found this group and that Joseph has accepted my
request for membership!  I have been lurking here for 1 1/2 weeks and
have made good use of the message archive during that time.  Now I
feel it is time to introduce myself, and my research:

My name is Jodiah Castro and I live in Berkeley CA.  I am 29 years old
and

New file uploaded to ranchos

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ranchos 
group.

  File        : /George Luna - luna@.../JuanLunaMarquez.rtf 
  Uploaded by : makas_nc  
  Description : Juan Luna Marquez 

You can access this file at the URL

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/files/George%20Luna%20-%20luna%40calinet.com/JuanLunaMarquez.rtf 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

makas_nc 
 




ArchaicEnglish/Immigration1906



Now I'm not really knowledgeable about this subject but I have seen
examples in Spanish of where the "s" resembles a cursive "f" so maybe
there are other things that can be gleaned from this article on "Acquiring
Fluency in Reading Archaic English Documents."



joseph

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New member greetings, and introducttion

I am glad to have found this group and that Joseph has accepted my
request for membership!  I have been lurking here for 1 1/2 weeks and
have made good use of the message archive during that time.  Now I
feel it is time to introduce myself, and my research:

My name is Jodiah Castro and I live in Berkeley CA.  I am 29 years old
 and have always been interested in where we have come from as a
family, although that interest only turned into actual research when I
decided to map my living relatives for an upcoming family reunion.  It
is so easy to know your elders as tio and tia, and to be told for many
years that all the kids are your cousins ;)  So I created a chart of
over 100 relatives descendant of my ggr-parents Malaquias Castro of
Mezquital del Oro Zacatecas (1895-~1923), and Librada Bedoya of
Arizona (1896-1981)  One thing led to another and six months later I
am seeing the insides of libraries I didnt even know existed! 

We are: Castro's, Bedoya's, Fuentes', Dominguez', Martinez

Hermenegildo

I have a niece whose name is Hermelinda - she was given this name because 
Catholics did not accept "Linda" as a proper first name, but Hermelinda was 
acceptable because there is a saint of that name?

Esperanza

File Management Request

Joseph,

When you look at the files and folders, there is a column 
labled 'creator'.  Only the creator can modify or edit the file or 
folder.  Those of us who created our own folder and uploaded our own 
files are able to make those changes.  If instead the person mailed 
their file to you {Joseph} and you {Joseph} created the folder and 
uploaded the files, then they cannot make the changes.  You {Joseph} 
as the moderator can modify any folder or file regardless of the 
creator.  The rest of us can't...

Ugh...Does that make sense...

Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> okay I'll have to look into this. I don't know why its not letting 
you 
> all do it. Can anyone in the group tell me of successfully being 
able to 
> edit your folder name to include your email address?
> 
> thanks Maria and Esther for notifying me about this. Maybe its 
something 
> to do with the options i picked to create the group. I'll have to 
have 
> another look when

File Management Request

Joseph,
 
In order to change or to modify, the name of the
folder.  We had to be the person who created the folder. 
 
Because, I went and created a new folder, with
all my files in it.  After, creating the folder, the "edit", "delete", and
"cut" options, became available.
 
So, Joseph could, you delete my old
folder.
 
Thanks,
Jonathan
 
Jonathan Walker
1140 North 230 West
Logan,
Utah 84341
 
Experienced Hispanic Genealogist - More Info:
http://members.pcu.net/Hispanic_Genealogy/
----- Original Message -----
From:
makas@...m
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:29
AM
Subject: [ranchos] File Management
Request


I have a very simple request if we each do our own
small part. Or a
large job if I have to do it. I just worked on helping
someone in the
group. but with over 50 members I can easily forget which
profiles are
which names and thereby not know how to link the genealogies
(listed
under the persons name to the person subscribed

File Management Request



Esther Valencia wrote:

I don't know if I am the only one having this problem,
but I am not able to go in and edit my file name.

     -Esther Valencia


--- makas@... wrote:
>
> I have a very simple request if we each do our own
> small part. Or a
> large job if I have to do it. I just worked on
> helping someone in the
> group. but with over 50 members I can easily forget
> which profiles are
> which names and thereby not know how to link the
> genealogies (listed
> under the persons name to the person subscribed
> under a different profile.
>
> here is what I'd like each of you to do:
>
> 1) go to the files area
>
> 2) if your genealogy is on this page go to the far
> right of your name
> and click on the word "edit"
>
> 3)
when the window opens in the space called "Folder
> name" put your
> email address next to your name.
>
> 4) click "save changes"
>
> 5) you're done
>
> look at it and it should look like my folder or
> something similar to this:
>
> Joseph Puentes' Ancestors makas@

File Management Request

okay I'll have to look into this. I don't know why its not letting you
all do it. Can anyone in the group tell me of successfully being able
to edit your folder name to include your email address?



thanks Maria and Esther for notifying me about this. Maybe its
something to do with the options i picked to create the group. I'll
have to have another look when time permits.



thanks,



joseph



Esther Valencia wrote:

I don't know if I am the only one having this problem,
but I am not able to go in and edit my file name.

     -Esther Valencia


--- makas@... wrote:
  
I have a very simple request if we each do our own
small part. Or a 
large job if I have to do it. I just worked on
helping someone in the 
group. but with over 50 members I can easily forget
which profiles are 
which names and thereby not know how to link the
genealogies (listed 
under the persons name to the person subscribed
under a different profile.

here is what I'd like each of you to do:

1) go to the

File Management Request

I don't know if I am the only one having this problem,
but I am not able to go in and edit my file name.

     -Esther Valencia


--- makas@... wrote:
> 
> I have a very simple request if we each do our own
> small part. Or a 
> large job if I have to do it. I just worked on
> helping someone in the 
> group. but with over 50 members I can easily forget
> which profiles are 
> which names and thereby not know how to link the
> genealogies (listed 
> under the persons name to the person subscribed
> under a different profile.
> 
> here is what I'd like each of you to do:
> 
> 1) go to the files area
> 
> 2) if your genealogy is on this page go to the far
> right of your name 
> and click on the word "edit"
> 
> 3) when the window opens in the space called "Folder
> name" put your 
> email address next to your name.
> 
> 4) click "save changes"
> 
> 5) you're done
> 
> look at it and it should look like my folder or
> something similar to this:
> 
> Joseph Puentes' Ancestors makas@...
>

Indefinite hold films

Hi all,
I compiled a list of all the Mexican films that are on indefinite 
hold at my local Family History Center.  I can do lookups for any of 
you as long as you can give me the date and names you are interested 
in.  At a minimum, I would need a month and year.
For Joseph:  I tried to place the file in the Ranchos 2 website, but 
I got an error message.  That's why I ended up placing it here in my 
folder.
Maria


Google Print/Amazon.Com Search



this might be useful



joseph



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Back in October, we talked about Amazon's "Search Inside the Book"
feature that lets you search for books whose pages contain a
particular keyword.  [You

Where did they go??

Joseph,

I would try the following book by Lyman d. Platt: "Mexico: guia general:
divisiones eclesiasticas".  It may give you some ideas.

Thanks,
Jonathan

Jonathan Walker
1140 North 230 West
Logan, Utah 84341
http://members.pcu.net/Hispanic_Genealogy/




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File Management Request


I have a very simple request if we each do our own small part. Or a
large job if I have to do it. I just worked on helping someone in the
group. but with over 50 members I can easily forget which profiles are
which names and thereby not know how to link the genealogies (listed
under the persons name to the person subscribed under a different profile.


here is what I'd like each of you to do:

1) go to the files area

2) if your genealogy is on this page go to the far right of your name
and click on the word "edit"


3) when the window opens in the space called "Folder name" put your
email address next to your name.


4) click "save changes"

5) you're done

look at it and it should look like my folder or something similar to this:

Joseph Puentes' Ancestors makas@...

thanks,

joseph



Ranchos2


Ranchos 2 is up and running. If you are logged on and can access the
files and links area of the original Ranchos group you should be able to
seemlessly go to the Ranchos 2 "file" area by clicking on the "Ranchos2"
link in the links area of the original Ranchos group.


If any of you can't access Ranchos2 via this link well maybe I forgot or
"couldn't" add you email address to the Ranchos2 membership list. If
this is the case email me directly (makas@...) and we'll talk
about it.


thanks,

joseph
makas@...



Where did they go???



Rosalinda Ruiz, my cousin who happens to be in SLC right now, asked
this question and suggested it for the group to ponder:



Sometimes the people of Huejucar, Jalisco took their children to be
baptised in the church in Huejucar. Sometimes they took their children
to be baptised in Santa Maria de Los Angeles, Jalisco. Before Santa
Maria they took them to Colotlan, Jalisco. But the records in Colotlan
only go back to 1718 and Colotlan has been around since 1591. So where
did the people record their baptisms, marriages, deaths, etc for the
missing 100+ years?



That question is not for the group. . .though if someone knows the
answer I'd dearly love to know.



The question for the group is "Would anyone be willing to participate
in a new 'info file' I'm going to put in the files area of the group?"




in this new info file we would put info like the above from your own
research. "well before this town the people went here to record their
baptisms and before that they went here to record

Suggestion: Reports v. Charts


I have a suggestion and its not a big deal for now if you don't follow it.

I'd prefer any genealogies submitted in the future to be in the
genealogy report format rather than the chart format.


my reasons:

1) the charts eat up space compared to the reports

2) you can get so much more info in the reports

3) the reports can be sent in using .rtf format

thanks,

joseph