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From: ranchos@...om
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
v.h.villarreal
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:08
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Films on
permanent loan.

Peggy,

I understand your
feelings.  The nearest FHC for me usually opens only
on Saturdays and
just for three hours.  It has 2 projectors but only
one is in working
order.  On my last visit I was shown a letter where
they were asking
for the films I haven't even reviewed to be sent
back.  At this rate
it'll take at least a couple of lives to find all
my ancestors. 
jah!  Maybe I'll find myself in the next life!

Victor

---
In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Peggy Delgado"
wrote:
>
> Good Afternoon fellow researchers....
>
>
I have a really silly question.  Do you members have the
actual
microfilms
> that you refer to in this message?
> How is
it that you can get them for such a long period of time.
Whe

Mary,

If you could tell me, the names and what information, that you have on
the grandfathers, that you are searching for.  I'll see if I can find
anything.

Also, to all of the Ranchos members,  if you have elusive ancestor,
send me the information.  And I will see, if I can find anything.

Thanks,
Jonathan


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen  wrote:
>
> Hello, Jonathan:  I am one of the newer members, not only in Ranchos
but in the whole genealogy experience itself. I have been working
steadily for about nine years and made a lot of "progress" but was
striking out in all directions and actually don't even know if I was
running into ancestors or not.  Then I ran into Ranchos and it put the
whole thing into focus.  Now I am rather excited because by sending
out copies of an unidentified photo, I actually have my first "hit".
It is a living person, 93 years old, who is the granddaughter of the
very man I was looking up.  I may really need some help later

I have uploaded David Serna's and Rosalinda Ruiz's films to the 
database.  Most of them do not have batch numbers but they are listed 
so you know who has them at their local FHL.  I will try to add batch 
numbers to them and try to upload Joseph's and some others as I have 
time.

I will be spending about three weeks this December and January in 
Jalisco and Zacatecas and am hoping to make it to the parrishes in 
Colotlan and Tlaltenango, perhaps Atolinga as well as the archives in 
Guadalajara...

Question... has anyone ever asked to see the actual books held at the 
parrishes?  I am thinking of asking to photograph some of them, but 
don't know how well that would go over.

Any tips would be appreciated.  I am also going to try to do an 
interview with Esteban Valdes Salazar who has published some very good 
genealogy and history books on Totatiche.  He is the local "cronista" 
and has obviously spent lots of time pouring over old archival 
documents, including the transcription of the 1591 census of Tlaxcaltec 
migrants to Colotlan and the entire 1770 Totatiche census (over 3000 
names).  So if there are any questions anyone would like to ask, please 
let me know.

Peggy,

I understand your feelings.  The nearest FHC for me usually opens only
on Saturdays and just for three hours.  It has 2 projectors but only
one is in working order.  On my last visit I was shown a letter where
they were asking for the films I haven't even reviewed to be sent
back.  At this rate it'll take at least a couple of lives to find all
my ancestors.  jah!  Maybe I'll find myself in the next life!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Peggy Delgado"  wrote:
>
> Good Afternoon fellow researchers....
> 
> I have a really silly question.  Do you members have the actual
microfilms
> that you refer to in this message?
> How is it that you can get them for such a long period of time. 
When I go
> to the FHC, I only get them for a couple of weeks.  They come in
from SLC, I
> look through them at the center using their equipment, request copies of
> certain documents, then they get sent back.  What am I doing wrong?
 Do you
> have these microfilms in your

                   hope I helped,     

                              Leticia

Does anyone know where I might find a history of la Parroquia de
Rincón de Romos and also of the Parroquia San José de Gracia?

I understand that for awhile there was an auxiliary San José parish
separated out of the main San José parish. It also seems that the
parochial jurisdictions changed over the years. I would like to be
able to decipher what belonged to what, and when, and how they
correlated with the civil jurisdictions.



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Oh, my gosh, Connie,

I was in El Paso for 2 days as of the 11th and just left this morning! I went to visit my sisters, one of whom is recuperating in a hospital! Wow! How interesting it would have been to talk on the phone a wee bit. Marge:)

On Oct 11, 2005, at 12:17 AM, Connie Dominguez wrote:

Alicia,

 

I worked for about a year at the beginning, with very few breakthroughs, but just enough tidbits to keep my appetite going. My early research taught me many things the hard way – lots of experience from mistakes.   As I moved into my second year of research, I realized that this was definitely not going to be a piece of cake.  While there were a few dates & such that I came across, I found much less than I had anticipated.   

 

But I resolved two things:  First, to learn about everything I could while I was on this ride…even if it wasn’t

-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@...om
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Arturo
Ramos
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 4:18 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Jonathan's Film
File-was-file uploaded to ranchos

Peggy:

We
don't literally "have" the films in our possession... rather, they
are at
our local family history center on "indefinite" loan.  They
put films
into such a status when someone has renewed the same film
three times...
basically meaning it is a critical or heavy use film
in that family
history

Peggy:

We don't literally "have" the films in our possession... rather, they 
are at our local family history center on "indefinite" loan.  They 
put films into such a status when someone has renewed the same film 
three times... basically meaning it is a critical or heavy use film 
in that family history center.  I personally don't have any on such 
status but people who have been at this a lot do... After all it is 
only $12 to get a film to stay at your center... it is worth it.

Podcasts are audio clips that can be downloaded to your computer to 
be listened to and if you like they can be synchronized to an iPod to 
listen to on your way to work, etc.  If you don't have an iPod you 
can still listen to them on your computer.

Check out this link for more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Peggy Delgado"  wrote:
>
> Good Afternoon fellow researchers....
> 
> I have a really silly question.  Do you members have the actual

You guys are too quick for me!  Yes, Joseph that is the point of the 
database--to have a single source of all the info and not have to 
have it repeated in several different files. Yes, a lookup means 
getting a scanned image of a document for another member provided 
they give you the film number, date and full names.  I think that we 
multiply the number of films we all have access to at one time by 
helping one another out to further our research.  I don't get to my 
FHC often either, but if I can help anyone I would be happy to do so.

As Arturo points out, the database has the advantage of allowing you 
to import and export into it.  

You've been reminding us about how we're running out of space in the 
files area, so I thought the database would help with that problem. 
Or does the data we put into the databases add to the amount of space 
alotted for files?  Even if it does, I would imagine that doing away 
with redundancy would help a little.

Thanks Arturo for your great

For those of you, who want copies of the material.  Please send me
your mailing address. To me private email: jonathan@...

Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"  wrote:
>
> For those of you who are too far west to have made it to the Hispanic 
> Genealogy Symposium at the National Archives, the Family History Center 
> and BYU are hosting a similar conference this weekend:
> 
> http://familyhistory.byu.edu/hg_conf.asp
>

Here is a website, that has several Family trees, from Mexico and Spain:
http://www.bisabuelos.com/

Jonathan

For those, who want copies, of the material.  Please send me, your
mailing address to my private email:  jonathan@...

Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"  wrote:
>
> For those of you who are too far west to have made it to the Hispanic 
> Genealogy Symposium at the National Archives, the Family History Center 
> and BYU are hosting a similar conference this weekend:
> 
> http://familyhistory.byu.edu/hg_conf.asp
>

Sorry, for the confusion, that my uploading of my file has caused.  I
created my file, with wordperfect (meaning, that I have never used
excel yet.)  I just wanted to share with the group, what films and
other resources, that the FHC, here in Logan has.  Because I only do
about 25% of my research, that the Logan Family History Center.  The
other 75% of my research, is done at the Family History Library, in
Salt Lake.  so, in reality, I have access, to all the films that the
Family History Library has, and it does not cost me anything, to order
them.

Thus saying that, I can say if, anyone needs a occasional lookup, they
can contact me, and see when I will be in Salt Lake. And can do the
Lookup. 

Also, if there are other group members, here in Utah.  That may be
able to help, with lookups at the FHL.

Jonathan


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
>
> If you are using Excel then why can't it be that we all create Excel 
> files and upload them once into

Alicia:

I have been doing a lot of lateral research as well, particularly in 
the earlier years (1700s) because as Emily points out, there is a lot 
that can be found out by tracing migration and marrige patterns within 
a family and across families.

I have a lot of intermarriage in my ancestry as well, with nine 
different lineages leading back to the same man around 1700.  Other 
than this man having had many children, the families in this rancho 
(Charco Hondo) seemed to marry with each other over the generations.  I 
am not sure that this has to do with fiefdom, because this particular 
man was a rather large landowner and I am assuming his children were as 
well, but by the late 1700s land had become scarce in the area and 
marrying out would mean having to distribute land into even smaller 
parcels in following generations.

I also think that family unity probably played a role... migrating 
would usually require moving not just yourself, but your extended 
family.  That, I

For those you, who can not make it, to the Hispanic Genealogy
Conference, in Salt Lake.  But would like to receive, copies of the
information and materials, that will be given out.  Let me, know and I
will see about getting you, the information.

Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos" wrote:
>
> For those of you who are too far west to have made it to the Hispanic
> Genealogy Symposium at the National Archives, the Family History Center
> and BYU are hosting a similar conference this weekend:
>
> http://familyhistory.byu.edu/hg_conf.asp
>

Does anyone know where I might find a history of la Parroquia de
Rincón de Romos and also of the Parroquia San José de Gracia?

I understand that for awhile there was an auxiliary San José parish
separated out of the main San José parish. It also seems that the
parochial jurisdictions changed over the years. I would like to be
able to decipher what belonged to what, and when, and how they
correlated with the civil jurisdictions.

For those you, who can not make it, to the Hispanic Genealogy
Conference, in Salt Lake.  But would like to receive, copies of the
information and materials, that will be given out.  Let me, know and I
will see about getting you, the information.

Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos" wrote:
>
> For those of you who are too far west to have made it to the Hispanic
> Genealogy Symposium at the National Archives, the Family History Center
> and BYU are hosting a similar conference this weekend:
>
> http://familyhistory.byu.edu/hg_conf.asp
>

If you have an Excel file that has all of the info, it should be 
fairly easy to import it into the database.  I pretty much did that 
for the Totatiche and Colotlan films, which I had in an Excel file.  
I will look at your file Joseph and let you know if there is anything 
else that I would need to put your files into the database.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
>
> 
> I'm sorry Maria but I think I'm finally getting the point. The 
database 
> would be one database where we all have our films in one file so 
anyone 
> could then easily look at it rather than look at each individuals 
list 
> for the film they are hunting for.
> 
> Well Can't this be done by cutting and pasting from one Excel file 
to 
> the next?
> 
> I've updated my film list by putting up a very ugly Excel file in 
the 
> Ranchos2 files area.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> joseph
>

Okay with my move of the few genealogies to the Ranchos2 files area that
means that there are 13 of you that won't be able to access them because
you never responded to my encouragement to join Ranchos2.

if you 13 want to be partial membes okay with me but if you want full
membership go here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ranchos2/

and click on "Join This Group" and I"ll subscribe you. simple as that.

joseph

I'm converting the Ranchos2 Files area to strictly members genealogies.
Its a work in progress but so far by MOVING the BATCHES to the LINKS
area of Ranchos1 we now are at 56% capacity rather than the 86% were
were at. That being said only to say that I'll be discontinuing putting
NEW MEMBER genealogies in the Yahoo Brief case and only use that
sometime in the distant future when we fill up the Ranchos2 file area
with new members (I might be dead by then and won't have to worry about
it).

I'm not sure when I'm going to be able to get around to moving the rest
of the stuff from Ranchos2 to its new home on my NuestraFamiliaUnida
website but I'll probably move a little at a time and then work on
getting the few genealogies in Briefcase over to the Ranchos2 files
area. Both Ranchos1 and Ranchos2 files area will be open to members for
adding, deleting, modifying, etc files as the members wish [note: I
meant your own that is].

if anyone has any questions or comments bring