Hi,
Somewhere I read that El Carrizal was located near Ayo but maybe there were other ranches with the same name in other areas of Jalisco (that is what I find nowadays in modern maps). Does any body know whether it still exists or whether it/they became a town/towns?
It is just curiosity to know in which areas my relatives lived, it is not a matter of going to look for information.
Thank you for your help.
Belinda
So, originally, the parish of Ayo el Chico (Ayotlán) encompassed most of what are now the municipios of Ayotlán, Arandas, Jesús María and Degollado. In the late 1700s the parish Ayo el Chico was split into two, Ayo el Chico and Arandas. Later, in about the 1820s or 1830s the parish of Arandas was split into two as well, Arandas and Jesús María (also known for a time as Barranca de Viudas).
I looked for El Carrizal in the 1825 padrón for Arandas and Jesús María. There are two places named El Carrizal: El Carrizal de Arriba and El Carrizal de Abajo. They are listed together in the padrón so it is very likely that they were located next to or close to each other. Based on the names of some of the other places that were listed along with the two Carrizales, and with the help of a somewhat recent municipal map of Arandas, it is likely that El Carrizal was located about here: 20°40'43.5"N 102°23'37.0"W. Similarly, El Chilarejo was possibly located here: 20°42'02.0"N 102°19'49.7"W.
So, as you suggested, El Carrizal (which translates to The Reedbed) is a common place name in the region. What is the name of the parish or town that your ancestors went to for their Sacraments? An old padrón for that location may provide some clues to the current location of the El Carrizal you are curious about.
Hello, thank you for replying.
I hadn't thought that there could be several ranches with that name. I usually find it above a name in church books from Arandas and Ayo. The other ranch (or "hacienda") I am trying to locate in modern maps is El Chilarejo. This one I find associated to Jalostotitlán.
Guesses for Modern Locations of El Carrizal and El Chilarejo