searching for parents of jose maria lisola/lizola as noted in family search records.. he is married to maria rita auhumada or aumada. child maria antonia who married victor velos is my 5th great grandparents. maria rita ahumadas parents were phelipe aumada and michaela de la veas. would like to know where they are from and anything about them as the records are vague in family search. thanks
Here are a few records that you can study to find out more information:
Phelipe Ahumada
mentioned in the record of Maria Antta. Ahumada Veas
Name Phelipe Ahumada
gender Male
Wife Michaela Veas
Daughter Maria Antta. Ahumada Veas
Other information in the record of Maria Antta. Ahumada Veas
from Mexico Baptisms
Name Maria Antta. Ahumada Veas
Gender Female
Christening Date 15 Nov 1775
Christening Place SAN MIGUEL,COCULA,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Phelipe Ahumada
Mother's Name Michaela Veas
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1TL-589 : 10 February 2018), Phelipe Ahumada in entry for Maria Antta. Ahumada Veas, 15 Nov 1775; citing SAN MIGUEL,COCULA,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 232,865.
Ma. Nicolasa Haumada
Gender Female
Christening Date 26 Sep 1779
Christening Place San Martín Hidalgo, Jalisco, Mexico
Father's Name Phelipe Haumada
Mother's Name Michaela Veas
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NVYZ-P5F : 10 February 2018), Michaela Veas in entry for Ma. Nicolasa Haumada, 26 Sep 1779; citing San Martín Hidalgo, Jalisco, Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 1,108,105
Juana Maria Aumada
Gender Female
Christening Date 10 Jan 1768
Christening Place San Miguel, Cocula, Jalisco, Mexico
Father's Name Phelipe Aumada
Mother's Name Michaela Veas
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N8WT-4NT : 10 March 2018), Michaela Veas in entry for Juana Maria Aumada, 10 Jan 1768; citing Cocula, Jalisco, Mexico, reference v 17 p 18; FHL microfilm 232,867
Michaela Veas
gender Female
Husband Phelipe Ahumada
Daughter Maria Antta. Ahumada Veas
Other information in the record of Maria Antta. Ahumada Veas
from Mexico Baptisms
Name Maria Antta. Ahumada Veas
Gender Female
Christening Date 15 Nov 1775
Christening Place SAN MIGUEL,COCULA,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Phelipe Ahumada
Mother's Name Michaela Veas
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1TL-58S : 10 February 2018), Michaela Veas in entry for Maria Antta. Ahumada Veas, 15 Nov 1775; citing SAN MIGUEL,COCULA,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 232,865.
Laureano Veas
Spouse's Name Maria Jacinta De Jesus Garcia
Event Date 07 Jan 1788
Event Place San Miguel,Cocula,Jalisco,Mexico
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JC6T-K8V : 10 February 2018), Laureano Veas and Maria Jacinta De Jesus Garcia, 07 Jan 1788; citing San Miguel,Cocula,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 232,895.
Name Jose Feliciano Lisola
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 17 Jun 1802
Event Place San Martín Hidalgo, San Martín Hidalgo, Jalisco, Mexico
Gender Male
Father's Name Jose Rafael Lisola
Mother's Name Francisca Aumada
Paternal Grandfather's Name Jose Maria Lisola
Paternal Grandmother's Name Maria Francisca
Maternal Grandfather's Name Felipe de Aumada
Maternal Grandmother's Name Maria Michaela Bernal
Citing this Record
México, Jalisco, registros parroquiales, 1590-1979, database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKZH-58NG : 10 March 2018), Jose Maria Lisola in entry for Jose Feliciano Lisola, 17 Jun 1802; citing Baptism, San Martín Hidalgo, San Martín Hidalgo, Jalisco, Mexico, parroquias Católicas Jalisco (Catholic Church parishes, Jalisco); FHL microfilm 1,108,106
Jose Maria Lisola
gender Male
Wife Francisca De Aumada
Son Jose Rafael Lisola
Other information in the record of Jose Rafael Lisola and Maria Nicolasa De Aumada
from Mexico Marriages
Name Jose Rafael Lisola
Spouse's Name Maria Nicolasa De Aumada
Event Date 27 Nov 1798
Event Place Ameca,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name Jose Maria Lisola
Mother's Name Francisca De Aumada
Spouse's Father's Name Felipe De Aumada
Spouse's Mother's Name Micaela Baes
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCZH-KKG : 10 February 2018), Jose Maria Lisola in entry for Jose Rafael Lisola and Maria Nicolasa De Aumada, 27 Nov 1798; citing Ameca,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 233,117.
Jose Maria Lisola
gender Male
Wife Francisca Ahumada
Son Rafael Lisola
Other information in the record of Maria Balbina Lisola
from Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records
Name Maria Balbina Lisola
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 01 Apr 1807
Event Place San Martín Hidalgo, San Martín Hidalgo, Jalisco, Mexico
Gender Female
Father's Name Rafael Lisola
Mother's Name Maria Nicolasa Ahumada
Paternal Grandfather's Name Jose Maria Lisola
Paternal Grandmother's Name Francisca Ahumada
Maternal Grandfather's Name Jose Felipe Ahumada
Maternal Grandmother's Name Maria Michaela Beas
Citing this Record
México, Jalisco, registros parroquiales, 1590-1979, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKZH-5Q1H : 10 March 2018), Jose Maria Lisola in entry for Maria Balbina Lisola, 01 Apr 1807; citing Baptism, San Martín Hidalgo, San Martín Hidalgo, Jalisco, Mexico, parroquias Católicas Jalisco (Catholic Church parishes, Jalisco); FHL microfilm 1,108,106
Jose Rafael Lisola
Spouse's Name Maria Nicolasa De Aumada
Event Date 27 Nov 1798
Event Place Ameca,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name Jose Maria Lisola
Mother's Name Francisca De Aumada
Spouse's Father's Name Felipe De Aumada
Spouse's Mother's Name Micaela Baes
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCZH-KKG : 10 February 2018), Jose Maria Lisola in entry for Jose Rafael Lisola and Maria Nicolasa De Aumada, 27 Nov 1798; citing Ameca,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 233,117
Joseph Miguel Ahumada Beas
Gender Male
Christening Date 12 Jul 1772
Christening Place SAN MIGUEL,COCULA,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Phelipe Antonio De Ahumada
Mother's Name Maria Michaela De La Cruz Beas
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBM6-ZX1 : 10 February 2018), Phelipe Antonio De Ahumada in entry for Joseph Miguel Ahumada Beas, 12 Jul 1772; citing SAN MIGUEL,COCULA,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 232,865.
Maria Petra Mansillas
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 24 Oct 1830
Event Place Ameca, Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico
Gender Female
Father's Name Jose Antonio Mansillas
Mother's Name Maria Trenida Aumada
Paternal Grandfather's Name Jose Mansillas
Maternal Grandfather's Name Felipa Aumada
Maternal Grandmother's Name Maria Micaela Beas
Citing this Record
México, Jalisco, registros parroquiales, 1590-1979, database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKZH-BGQV : 10 March 2018), Felipa Aumada in entry for Maria Petra Mansillas, 24 Oct 1830; citing Baptism, Ameca, Ameca, Jalisco, Mexico, parroquias Católicas Jalisco (Catholic Church parishes, Jalisco); FHL microfilm 233,075
Good luck in your research,
Rick A. Ricci
Here is their marriage record:
Phelipe Antonio Aumada
Spouse's Name Michaela De La Crus Beas
Event Date 13 Feb 1760
Event Place San Miguel,Cocula,Jalisco,Mexico
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JC6B-LLJ : 10 February 2018), Phelipe Antonio Aumada and Michaela De La Crus Beas, 13 Feb 1760; citing San Miguel,Cocula,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 232,885.
Rick A. Ricci
I believe that José María Lisola is the son of José María Albino Lisaola Ruiz and Francisca Cipriana Bernal.
José María Albino Lisaola is the son of Joseph Lizaola and María Teresa Ruiz
Francisca Cipriana Bernal is the daughter of Joseph De Ahumada y Bernal and María Isabel Lopez.
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María Rita de Ahumada y Veas (Beas) is the daughter of Jose Phelipe Antonio De Jesus Ahumada and María Michaela De la Cruz De Beas
Jose Phelipe Antonio De Jesus Ahumada is the son of Miguel De Ahumada and Josefa Jimenez
María Michaela De la Cruz Beas is the daughter of Joseph Eugenio De Beas and Juana María De Cecena.
Joseph Eugenio de Baes is the son of Sebastian De Veas and Petrona de Avalos.
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Rick A. Ricci
1). Lázaro Moreno de Canas and Elvira Sanchez. ( alive in early 1530’s)
2). Diego Moreno De Canas and Ysabel De Velasco
3). Elvira Moreno Belasco and Francisco Martin
4). Mariana De San Agustin Moreno y Martin and Juan Gil Martinez
5). Constanza Martínez y Moreno and Alonzo Llerena Agundez
6). Constanza Llerena Y Martinez and Juan De Avalos
7). Petrona de Avalos and Sebastian De Veas
8). Eugenio Joseph De Baes and Juana María De Cecena
9). María Michaela De la Cruz Baes and Joseph Phelipe Antonio de Jesus Ahumada
10). María Rita (Antta.?) Ahumada y Baes and José María Lisaola (Lisola, Lizola)
María Rita (Antta.?) Ahumada y Baes has a sister named María Nicolasa Ahumada y Vaes who married Joseph Rafael Lizaola who is a brother to José María Lizaola so it is another case of brothers marrying sisters.
Rick A. Ricci
yes correct these are my lines of families
Hi Rick. These are my ancestors as well. But I got stuck with Elvira Moreno, wife of Francisco Martin "el Viejo". I got info on them from the books "Ameca, Protofundacion Mexicana" and "La Gran Propiedad en Cocula de Avalos". In the first book, it mentions Diego Moreno as Elvira's father, but does not mention the mother. How did you find this connection? I see there is a baptism record on familysearch for an Elvira Moreno in Puebla, daughther of Diego Moreno Canas and Ysabel de Belasco on 24 aug 1586. But I don't think this is our Elvira, because her husband Francisco Martin died, according to the second book I mentioned, between 1581 and 1606. Also, on the same book, it mentions that Elvira Moreno, wife of Francisco Martin, bought a piece of land for 250 pesos in gold on September 4 1587. Definitely, she is not the same Elvira born in Puebla in 1586.
On another note, do you know the parents of Juan Gil, husband of Mariana de San Agustin? I only have his name and nothing else. In fact, I didn't know he had Martinez as his second surname.
Saludos
Steve Apodaca
Hi Rick. These are my ancestors as well. But I got stuck with Elvira Moreno, wife of Francisco Martin "el Viejo". I got info on them from the books "Ameca, Protofundacion Mexicana" and "La Gran Propiedad en Cocula de Avalos". In the first book, it mentions Diego Moreno as Elvira's father, but does not mention the mother. How did you find this connection? I see there is a baptism record on familysearch for an Elvira Moreno in Puebla, daughther of Diego Moreno Canas and Ysabel de Belasco on 24 aug 1586. But I don't think this is our Elvira, because her husband Francisco Martin died, according to the second book I mentioned, between 1581 and 1606. Also, on the same book, it mentions that Elvira Moreno, wife of Francisco Martin, bought a piece of land for 250 pesos in gold on September 4 1587. Definitely, she is not the same Elvira born in Puebla in 1586.
On another note, do you know the parents of Juan Gil, husband of Mariana de San Agustin? I only have his name and nothing else. In fact, I didn't know he had Martinez as his second surname.
Saludos
Steve Apodaca
Ahumada, Veas and Lisaola records