Juan's son was Mateo who accompanied him. Juan was a widower. Could this be Mateo?
I have seen Hernando referred to as Fernando.
What archive did you search? Was this through google? Juan married the grand daughter of Alonso
Here's a message Hope wanted to share with the group:
I so enjoy what everyone has to say and feel a connection to everyone
so... ..........I hope its ok to send this to you,hopfuly to share with
Jose,
We probably have more connections than that. I also descend from Melchora Arriola through her daughter Juana Flores Valdes through her son Miguel Rodriguez. I descend from the the Villarreals 3 times and Diego Trevino de Valsco 25 times.
Arturo,
Thanks, this looks promising. There is one film for the town for years before their departure. I will check it out.
IT was initesting!
Thank you again. What did you do to find the record?
Joseph,
I am sending you the last message I sent you with a Babelfish translation. It took me a while to figure out the link for BabelFish. When I did a search for Babelfish.com all I kept getting was a language learning program. I kept searching for the translator engine link and I finally found it under AltaVista. Then I had to copy and paste my previous message to this new e-mail, save this e-mail as a draft, copy the English to the link, then copy and paste the translation back into the draft e-mail. This is a lot of rigamarole. What am I doing wrong now? I told you I am technically challenged. I hope someone who is Spanish-only speaking can understand the robotic translation, since there are some words in there I have never seen.
I don't mind reading and writing in Spanish on the list although I only consider myself conversant and not fluent. However, it drives me crazy to try to interpret all the words that have a "?" substituted for every accent mark, oomlaut, and tilde. Is there any way to have our program recognize Spanish symbols? Otherwise, I'd prefer to read Spanish without the marks.
>>>>The other two are a Diego Pinedo who is a mulato in the early 1700s in Colotlan
and had lots of children and a Francisco Pinedo who appears in Tlaltenango around
1700. Before that there are no Pinedos in Tlaltenango other than a son of one of
Arturo,
Recibí el mensaje con tildes y acentos en español. Ahora, una pregunta: ¿recibiste tú este mensaje con acentos y interrogatorias?
I received the message with the diacritical markings in Spanish. Now, a question: did you receive my email with the appropriate markings? I'm using a Mac, G5 with Tiger software and I'm curious.
The research list is for research about the estados of Jalisco,
Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes. I understand that occasionally there
might be a question come up that needs to take us out of the area. In
This is for Nathan Jones.
Nathan,
I called Ms.Silvia Granillo (915-859-7913 who is the current Enrollment
Officer of the Tigua Tribe. I asked about wheher Cacique (Chief)
Perjuin Granillo was still alive. She told me that that was in the
Muy bien dicho. Arturo y Joseph han trabajado bastante, y lo agradesco.
Me gusta que el sitio sera bilingue.
Well said. Arturo and Joseph have worked hard to pull us together, and offer us all the aid we need. I appreciate all their hard work.
Gilbert Paez here. First of all, thank you for letting me part this group. I am working my way through the various areas of the website. It is Great!
My question: Could someone help me with the rules for the proper use of hispanic surnames? Example: My grandmother's maiden name was Romero and my grandfather's last name was Paez. Would my father be Paez Romero?
Sistema Español de Dos Apellidos.
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Ya que hay un número grande y creciente de miembros que prefieren comunicar en español es importante que intentemos hacer el sitio un poco más bilingüe. Lo que escriben los miembros en sus mensajes sería bastante difícil traducir, pero esto se puede hacer a través de una de las maquinas de traducción disponibles en la red como Babelfish. Intentaremos integrar esta función al sitio en el futuro.
Dear cousins:
I just got this email from a gentleman in Aguascalientes who is researching our same lines. He must have run across my homepage. As I understand his message Diego Romo de Vivar ranged over a wider area than we anticipated, not extending his lifestyle to Hidalgo del Parral, Chihuahua alone, but reaching as far north in Nueva Biscaya as Villa Ahumada, which he founded.
Mi reconocimiento a la labor desarrollada por Arturo, Joseph y todos aquellos que hacen posible que exista "Nuestros Ranchos". Coincido totalmente con los conceptos vertidos por Alicia Carrillo. Finalmente, los idiomas, como las religiones o los partidos políticos no deben ser obstáculo para el entendimiento. Sin embargo "hablando el mismo idioma", podremos entendernos mejor. Saludos y enhorabuena.
Hello everyone,
My name is Leticia Salazar, and I am new to this group, I joined the group
in hope of extending my familytree and helping others do the same. My
research began back in 2000 after I purchased a book for my mother on genealogy,
Saludos a todo el Grupo. Les comunico que desde ayer tienen a su disposición mi modesto trabajo de investigación relacionado con los MARQUEZ, ROBLES, RODRIGUEZ, VILLAOSLADO de Tepetongo, Zac. y los JUAREZ, VIDAL, HARO, ESPITIA de Jeréz, Zac. Agradeceré las correcciones, adiciones y sugerencias al mismo. El documento está disponible para todos bajo el título
Do any of you in El Paso know if Chief Perjuin Granillo of the Tiguas is still alive?
I am told he has another name, this might be his Hispanic name.
I am told he is the only living person who can verify my father's heritage.
Arturo,
About those batch numbers starting with "I":
Back in February, I printed out an entry in the IGI after searching for my grandfather's sister Angela Olague in Jerez and Tepetongo.
At the time, the IGI listed an Angela Olague born in Jerez around the time my great-aunt was born, but the parents listed for her were not the same as my grandfather's. I printed out the entry and filed it, thinking that when they got around to listing the film number, etc, I would send for it. The entry listed as Source Information only a batch number (I043209) and no Dates, or Source Call Number or Type or Sheet.
Ernie and Pat,
Here are 7 additional excerpts from Jose Luis' book, regarding Juana Delgadillos. I guess it shows you must be very cautious and vigilant when claiming ancestry to a certain individual's name because as we can see there appear to be several Juana Delgadillos.
I do not have the Vazquez y Frias publication, but I do have the
"capitulo,"listing. There's a reference to Capitulo 57 Descendencia de Diego de
Benavides y Juana Delgadillo. It may help to establish if this Juana
I have uploaded 5 attachments for the "capitulo," listing for the publication "Genealogia de Nochistlan Antiquo Reino de la Nueva Galicia en el Siglo XVII segun sus Archivos Parroquiales," by Jose Luis Vazquez y Rodriguez de Frias.