And speaking of Michoacán....  If we were to speak about the old
territories of "Nueva Galicia", then we'd have to include Michoacán
all the way to Sonora (and maybe further north), including Jalisco,
Zacatecas, Aguascalientes, Nayarit, Colima and Sinaloa.

http://www.historylink.org/essays/output.cfm?file_id=5682


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Erlinda Castanon-Long"
 wrote:
>
> Genealogy is hard work and I can't imagine a serious researcher 
> wanting to join this group without being willing to share what their 
> research has shown in the migration of families in Mexico. Joseph 
> has made it a rule for joining this group, the willingness to share 
> research.
> 
> I'm truly learning as I go in the genealogy but have learned that 
> our lines did not originally come from Jalisco, Zacatecas or 
> Guanajuato, they had to come from someplace else before that since 
> they followed established roads for migration after the soldiers 
> made them safe to establish

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for
the
ranchos group:

From time to time people not from our geographical
area express intereste in Ranchos. Here is my answer:

maybe there is a
misunderstanding. we are focused on the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas, and
Aguascalientes. I don't understand why you would be interested in this group?
Now if you "THINK" that you might have ties to this area then I'll subscribe you
for a 1 year temporary membership that we'll reconsider renewing next year
depending on how much you've discovered about your Jalisco, Zacatecas and/or
Aguascalientes roots or should I say tried to discover.

is this what
you'd like to do?

Do you agree with this? Or should I make special
exceptions for those

Genealogy is hard work and I can't imagine a serious researcher 
wanting to join this group without being willing to share what their 
research has shown in the migration of families in Mexico. Joseph 
has made it a rule for joining this group, the willingness to share 
research.

I'm truly learning as I go in the genealogy but have learned that 
our lines did not originally come from Jalisco, Zacatecas or 
Guanajuato, they had to come from someplace else before that since 
they followed established roads for migration after the soldiers 
made them safe to establish new pueblos, towns and states. Or some 
of us had ancestors who were soldiers and they were moved from place 
to place.  I always said my Gutierrez and Mendez families was from 
Jalisco but I've discovered they arrived in Jalisco about 1775 from 
Michoacan and were only in Michoacan for about 50 years so they had 
to come from someplace else before that! Even though my focus is 
still in the states we are grouped together

Joseph,

This is a though one.  I'm not deciding yet how to vote but I just
want to add a comment.

I understand how certain people might want to join the group just to
see what they can get out from it without making any contribution in
return, or extract information for non-genealogical purposes.  This is
not acceptable.

However, I'm sure there must be at least a few good researchers and
genealogist who, although not directly rooted in the Ranchos
geographical area, can act as bridges to other genealogical groups in
Mexico, US, Iberia, the Caribean, etc.  I for one have membership and
visit several groups  even in places where I still haven't found any
ancestors.  I have directed to this group a few persons who I knew
were interested in the Rancho's region but were unaware of this
group's existence.

Maybe the solution isnt'a yes-no, let-them-all-in / keep-them-all-out
situation.  How about adding another level or layer of protection to
the files or information that we want to

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the 
ranchos group:

>From time to time people not from our geographical area express intereste in Ranchos. Here is my answer:

maybe there is a misunderstanding. we are focused on the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes. I don't understand why you would be interested in this group? Now if you "THINK" that you might have ties to this area then I'll subscribe you for a 1 year temporary membership that we'll reconsider renewing next year depending on how much you've discovered about your Jalisco, Zacatecas and/or Aguascalientes roots or should I say tried to discover.

is this what you'd like to do?

Do you agree with this? Or should I make special exceptions for those "high quality" researchers that express interest in the group?

I'm torn between being "fair" to all and the possible benefit to "all" from letting a top researcher into the group.

what do you all think?

So far all of our polls have been invalid for

I'm wondering if everyone is participating in the who's who database? if

I prefer you move them, Joseph. I haven't a clue (and don't want one) about it. Memarge:)

On Nov 2, 2005, at 7:13 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

thanks Carol, Marge, Helyn, and Maria for volunteering. I'll eventually get your files moved over, but if you all feel energetic you could move them yourself, otherwise I'll do it. If you do take a try at it keep the same format as is found: your name (email address), locations being researched, etc.



thanks,



joseph



Carol Turner wrote:

It's fine with me too.



Carol

--- Margarita Vallazza wrote:

Jofes, whatever you deem best. You're the boss!

Marge V.:) I need to

redo mine anyway, I think.:)

On Nov 2, 2005, at 2:44 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

Is there anyone in the Ranchos1 files area that

would be willing to

let

me move your files to the Ranchos2 files area?



thanks,



joseph







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