My bad usage of the English language (I believe that Shakespeare reproved me).
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Jose Roman,
Por favor no dejes de comunicarte con el grupo, sea en ingles o en español. Creo que cada uno de nosotros tiene algo muy rico que ofrecer al grupo y a lo mejor yo soy una de esas personas que se pudiese quedar muda por tener mal ortografia en ambas lenguas. El objetivo no es escribir a la perfecion, sino el poder comunicarse uno acerca del tema del dia, sea el que sea.
Como te habia dicho antes, tienes buenos sentimientos y buenas opiniones de valor a lo del grupo y me agrada leer tus comentarios.
Sin mas una participante que corre el peligro de quedar muda porque a veces no sabe si va o viene...........Alicia Carrillo de San Jose, Ca
José Román González López
To the great fellow
Joseph:Thanks for your message.I hope not to say in my e-Mail messages an incorrect _expression_, but I know that my English is very bad. Any way I don't like offend to anybody, I don't use "offensive words", and my intention is other. In my house
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To the great fellow Joseph:
Thanks for your message.
I hope not to say in my e-Mail messages an incorrect _expression_, but I know that my English is very bad. Any way I don't like offend to anybody, I don't use "offensive words", and my intention is other. In my house, may mother did say me "te voy a quemar la boca" or "lavate esa bocota con jabón" when I, or my brothers and sisters said any bad word (maldiciones o groserías).
I understand the John message in the correct way, his comment benefit me, because is for my future corrections. I will effort more to write correct English, I promise you.
That you say of your experience learning English is very interesting. I relate you a funny account "chiste", I hope you can translate to the rest of the ranchos group:
En una familia adinerada, el padre envió a uno de sus hijos mayores
a Estados Unidos para que aprendiera bien el inglés, el hijo se fue a una de las mejores escuelas de allá, al poco tiempo el padre le habla
a Estados Unidos para que aprendiera bien el inglés, el hijo se fue a una de las mejores escuelas de allá, al poco tiempo el padre le habla
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Dear Elvira:
Thanks for your comprehension. I believe that I do the better that I can do, but I also believe that I should do a major effort. I use aN orthographic correction for my bad text in English language, but I know that its develop not is the best, the word processor don't do miracles.
I appreciate any comments of the rest of members of this EXCELLENT group, the ranchos group should write with BOLD and CAPITALS letters: RANCHOS GROUP.
My best regards for you.
JRGL.
Mexico City.
Elvira wrote:
Elvira wrote:
The translations below - because of the way they are written and the way they sound, seem to
come from a web translator. My translator translates that way. of course I do better but what's below gets the meaning across. I had no problem understanding it. I rather admire the principal fact that JRGL is brave enough and puts out the effort to communicate with us any way he can.Elvira
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My bad usage of the English language (I believe that Shakespeare reproved me).
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Hola John:
Gracias por tu mensaje. De ninguna manera me siento mal por tus correcciones, de hecho creo que es una de las formas que tengo de corregir mis errores (¿horrores?) por mi mismo. ¡Crecemos al corregir nuestros errores!
Casi siempre introduzco el texto primero con mi escaso conocimiento del idioma Inglés, luego le hago una rápida revisión yo mismo, al final antes de enviarlo, hago una corrección ortográfica por medio de un procesador de textos. Desafortunadamente en el lugar desde el cual envié el último "mssg" no hice lo anterior, por la premura del tiempo. Te prometo que en los mensajes siguientes pondré mayor cuidado.
Te deseo ¡éxito! en tus actividades cotidianas.
Atte:
JRGL.
Ciudad de México.
Hello
John:
John:
Thanks for your message. Any way I don't feel bad for your corrections, in fact I believe that is a way of correct my errors (horrors?) for myself. We grow because we correct our errors.
Almost times I first typed the text with my very
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The Salt Lake City Hispanic Conference will be on Saturday,
Oct 14, 2006. So far I have 11 people who have expressed an interest in going. Mickey Garcia and I are planning to arrive in SLC on Sunday, Oct 8th and stay until the following Sunday, Oct 15th.....anyone who wants to go can stay as long or as little as they want.....the room rate remains the same for however number of days you stay. I wish
I could attend your next meeting in March 2006 but I have to be in Switzerland for the arrival of my newest grandchild in April. Mickey and I have discussed going to one of your gatherings.......one thing about us....we are always ready to go when it concerns genealogy! :-) I will
keep everyone posted on any information I receive on the SLC trip. Josie
in San Antonio From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Puentes Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 1:59 PM To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ranchos] SLC2006?/Re |
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The translations below - because of the way they are
written and the way they sound, seem to come from a web translator. My translator translates that way. of course I do better but what's below gets the meaning across. I had no problem understanding it. I rather admire the principal fact that JRGL is brave enough and puts out the effort to communicate with us any way he can. Elvira
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Estimado Jose:
Con todo respeto y admiracion lo felicíto y
admiro su gran esfuerzo al tratar de comunicarse con el grupo Ranchos en Inglés, pero lamentable y aparentemente, comete varios errores. Permitame que le traduzca al Español lo que usted escribió en Inglés en su mensaje dirigido a Emilie. Estoy seguro que al leer las correcciones, va a estar de acuerdo en que "eso no era lo que yo quería decir" . Dentro del grupo hay varios miembros que saben
leer en Español con diferente grados de experiencia, pero tambien hay muchos que no saben ni leer ni escribirlo, se comunican unicamente en Inglés. Por favor no valla a tomar éste comentario a mal,
es solo un comentario. No deje de seguir practicando el Inglés, es muy importante, lo que si le recomiendo es que haga un pequeño esfuerzo para aprenderlo un poquito mejor. Sinceramente, su amigo y compañero en la
Genealogia: John Gonzalez (El Metiche)
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Several members of the LDS church have shared some of the
same experiences with me while I'm at the FHC doing my own research. They
believe that it is their job to bring their ancestors to their church.
Maybe this influences their visions, dreams...
same experiences with me while I'm at the FHC doing my own research. They
believe that it is their job to bring their ancestors to their church.
Maybe this influences their visions, dreams...
I do not dream about ancestors that I have not met,
nor do they contact me. Being a chicken, I'm thankful.
nor do they contact me. Being a chicken, I'm thankful.
My passion for finding out about my ancestors I
believe comes from my parents and relatives talking about their ancestors:
funny stories, exploits, etc.
believe comes from my parents and relatives talking about their ancestors:
funny stories, exploits, etc.
My abuelito would also tell my older primo
Felipe to grab a pen and a notebook and jot down info. about his parents,
grandparents, etc., Felipe whom I haven't been in touch with for over
15 yrs., just put together a little velobound booklet on his parent's
ancestors. Maybe he's working on both of us in a very subtle
way...
Felipe to grab a pen and a notebook and jot down info. about his parents,
grandparents, etc., Felipe whom I haven't been in touch with for over
15 yrs., just put together a little velobound booklet on his parent's
ancestors. Maybe he's working on both of us in a very subtle
way...
I would sit on my abuelito's lap too like Joseph, but I
would bite my lito's nose. :) This was
something only I got away with it too. My
would bite my lito's nose. :) This was
something only I got away with it too. My
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Thank you Emilie for talking about this subject. I find it heartwarming that so many group members are willing to share their 'extra' help in finding the records for our ancestors. People who don't do genealogy find our passion for finding ancestors strange. My sister said I am a genealogy addict, I told her I was just passionate about finding all those who got me here in this day and time. There are times when I don't get much sleep because of dreams that ultimately open doors to more lines or names. In doing records I find it's much easier to find the Spanish ancestors than the Indio or Mulato lines due to a lack of last names sometimes. I found that my Espanol ancestor Guadalupe Mendez married a Mulato woman, Francisca Valencia in 1833. Francisca haunted my dreams until I decided to pursue her lines. I took her Rolon ancestor back to about 1660 and found them in and out of slavery. I was proud when they were free in 1680 and inslaved again in 1715 with my "love
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Hi Emilie:
You are a good question.
The answer to your question is a mystery for to much, but must there is a correct respond. Who have the accurate answer?
The human knowledge is very short to respond some of our question. The live end when we dead?, or the life continue in other way no known for us? Is very interesting that the body of the men not is your life, because any man has a spirit, not is the life of that spirit indestructible? as the spirit of the men not dead, is possible that this spirit in the other world where still alive, need some of us?
You decide what is the accurate answer to your question?
Have a good day.
JRGL.
Mexico City.
Emilie Garcia wrote:
This is an excerpt from an article in the latest World Wildlife Federation Newsletter:"For reasons not fully understood, millions of North American butterflies from southern Canada and the eastern United States migrate south each year to just a few mountaintops in Michoacan
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Several years ago, when I first started doing research on
my family, I was at the FHC library and a member of the LDS Church was helping
me get started. I had already made several attempts at research by
myself but could never get good results.....needless to say, I was getting
VERY frustrated! In fact, I was ready to give up! Then I
started having dreams about my ancestors and I did not even know them~~!!
You can imagine how that felt! When I told my friend at the FHC
library about my dreams she looked at me in (what I thought) was a strange
way......I asked her what was wrong and she said "nothing"...... Later, as I was
preparing to leave, she took me aside and explained to me that "she did not know
if I would understand what she was going to tell me, but that she would tell me
anyway." This statement must have come because I told her that my dreams
sometimes scared me and I did not understand why I was dreaming about
people I did not even know......and this
my family, I was at the FHC library and a member of the LDS Church was helping
me get started. I had already made several attempts at research by
myself but could never get good results.....needless to say, I was getting
VERY frustrated! In fact, I was ready to give up! Then I
started having dreams about my ancestors and I did not even know them~~!!
You can imagine how that felt! When I told my friend at the FHC
library about my dreams she looked at me in (what I thought) was a strange
way......I asked her what was wrong and she said "nothing"...... Later, as I was
preparing to leave, she took me aside and explained to me that "she did not know
if I would understand what she was going to tell me, but that she would tell me
anyway." This statement must have come because I told her that my dreams
sometimes scared me and I did not understand why I was dreaming about
people I did not even know......and this
Garcia-Cervantes of Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco
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Maybe is a chip in the brain that compells us, sort or a chip I mean, for me is an urge that started early in life, I try to keep memories of names in my mothers chat over dinners, mostly when we had no tv, I long for those moments... than tater after her pass of the way I dream a lot about her very vividly, and since I started this genealogy formaly those dreams almos stop, nowadays I dream about her now and then... thanks to my parents use of the oral tradition I feel that my relatives I never met are part of the family... that's for me Emilie how it is. Bye Leticia Leon
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This is
an excerpt from an article in the latest World Wildlife Federation Newsletter:"For reasons not fully understood, millions of North American butterflies from southern Canada and the eastern United States migrate south each year to just a few mountaintops in Michoacan........the monarchs that return to the butterfly sanctuary in Mexico are
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This is an excerpt from an article in the latest World Wildlife
Federation Newsletter: "For reasons not fully understood, millions of
North American butterflies from southern Canada and the eastern United States migrate south each year to just a few mountaintops in Michoacan........the monarchs that return to the butterfly sanctuary in Mexico are approximately five generations removed from those that left Mexico the previous spring.....how monarchs are able to locate the same forest ecosystem year after year without having been there before remains an unsolved biological mystery". When I read this, I had also just read about the same phenomenon in a book
called "Psychic Roots", except that they said it took about eight generations for the butterflies to make the round trip. Talk about serendipity! Are we like those butterflies? What is it that calls us to locate the
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> here is a picture of the Sacramento Ranchos Meet up. Not everyone in the
> picture is a Ranchos Member but there were 8 members present:
> if any others of those attending want to do a write up of the event
> would be great.
I drafted an agenda for our next meeting in March 2006. I can e-mail you that and if you think others would be interested you can post it to the group. Overall, I think it turned out very well. We had a good turnout and the group may grow. I've had others express an interest in attending the next meeting.
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> ps: maybe next time you get together you can try to plan it around when
> Debra Ortiz is in Sacramento.
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I did neglect inviting Deborah to this meeting, but have since e-mailed her and invited her to the next meeting. She lives here in town, so she wouldn't have to travel. However, she is a busy lady.
Maria
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Joseph, the last two entries on my list of links are the correct ones, the ones titled "Garcia-Cervantes" and "Olague-Tinajero [Felix]". The other entries above them are duplicates and can be deleted since those are the links you entered some time ago and are for the same trees. Thanks, Emilie Garcia Port Orchard, WA --
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Thank you, Joseph,
I will keep updating both my husband's Garcia-Cervantes lines and my
Olague-Tinajero [Felix] lines in World Connect. I added some information yesterday to my husband's tree, and today I found another generation back and I will be updating his tree again to include that new info later. One thing I am finding when searching the Garcia-Cervantes lines is that
there are duplicate records for some ancestors in the IGI. Some entries are from the officially transcribed original records and the duplicates say "Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number". The information on these submitted by the LDS member are off from the original transcription by a year or by a month, etc. What happened here? The LDS member seems to have ignored the info in the original |
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Marge: That history of Monte Escobedo is what got me on Leonardo de la Torre's trail. It is very interesting because many of the heirs took on the name Covarrubias, who were prolific among the few Spanish families that were in the Totatiche area in the 17th Century and it looks like a lot of the land that was owned by Francisco Escobedo was around Totatiche. I think there are references to el Rio Guajuquilla, which I have found out from other sources is today called the Rio Cartagenas which runs through Totatiche. --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Margarita Vallazzawrote: > > http://www.monteescobedo.com/historia/fundacion/fundacion01.htm - tells > the history of the Escobedo family and of the town founded by the first > immigrant. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cafara/MemProfile.html - tells about a > Dominguez family emigrating to El Paso...pretty interesting stuff. > > Just cut and paste the website address or copy it. Enjoy! Marge:) >
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http://www.monteescobedo.com/historia/fundacion/fundacion01.htm -tells
the history of the Escobedo family and of the town founded by the first
immigrant.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~cafara/MemProfile.html - tells about a
Dominguez family emigrating to El Paso...pretty interesting stuff.
Just cut and paste the website address or copy it. Enjoy! Marge:)