Nuestros Ranchos Site

To my knowledge, Los Contreras was a ranch that is now in the town of Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román, Zacatecas. At that time, it would have been part of Nueva Galicia which put it under the jurisdiction of Guadalajara. I saw "Los Contreras" a lot on the Tumblr Dispensas.
http://guadalajaradispensas.tumblr.com/

Hey we could have a common ancestor lol

I am available to go and maybe you are interested in Archivo Municipal de Guadalajara?

Here is my email; enrique.inglob@gmail.com

That is so cool. Thank you for sharing such and interesting story. Can I ask her parents names / who her husband was?

Hi Vanessa,

Here is the christening record of Ignacio:

"Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBM8-8VN : 2 January 2015), Nicolas Lopez in entry for Ygnacio Lopez Ortega, 07 Apr 1659; citing SANTA MARIA DE LOS LAGOS, LAGOS DE MORENO, JALISCO, MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 221,404.

Name: Ygnacio Lopez Ortega
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 07 Apr 1659
Christening Place: SANTA MARIA DE LOS LAGOS, LAGOS DE MORENO, JALISCO, MEXICO
Father's Name: Nicolas Lopez
Mother's Name: Jna. De Ortega
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60412-1
System Origin: Mexico-ODM
GS Film number: 221404

I hope it helps in your search.

I've never heard that before. But, if you look on google books, several people are listed as Mayordomo of Juana la loca and none of them are named Diego Gonzalez Vega. The only one named Diego is named Diego Reinoso.

Danny C. Alonso

Hello, Mr. Ricci. I am related to Alessandro Vitela through our common ancestors Jose Antonio Apodaca and Cornelia Rosalia Ayala, married in Sayula, Jalisco on May 30, 1814. I also strongly believe that we may have common Castro ancestors from Zacoalco.

I've been in contact with him and he's on my facebook list. I just sent him your message and I hope to hear from him soon. I'll let you know.

Steve in NC

Hola :

No tengo el gusto pero aqui voy, tres de los hijos de Francisco y Thomasa de casaron en Lagos de moreno, la primera fue Maria Manuela , que se casó con Nicolas Gonzales de Rovalcaba( es como esta en el archibo historico)este era viudo y un hijo de su primera esposa Ignacio Gonzales de Robalcaba issasi se casó con Juana Gertrudis Gtz. despues del tercero fué Miguel Antonio Gutierres, que se caso con una hija de Nicolas Gonzales y Maria Manuela , ella era Juana Maria Gonzales Gutierres; de Don Francisco , efectivamente, enviudo y se caso nuevamente en Jalos.
saludos

Hola Martha,

Ando en busca de la familia de Francisco Gtz y Juana de Lomelin. Ellos murieron el la Hacienda del Salto en Tepa. Tuvieron cuatro hijos

1. Lazaro Gutierrez de Hermosillo (I), no se la fecha y donde nacio, posiblemente en Tepa o en Cuquio, quien casa con Ines de la Mora en Ocotlan. Tuvieron cinco hijos:
a. Lazaro Gutierrez de Hermosillo (II), no se fecha y donde nacio, quien casa con Theresa Ximenez de Padilla en Jalos en 1715.
b. Maria Samora, nace en Ocotlan 1685.
c. Francisco Gutierrez Samora, nace en Ocotlan 1687.
d. Gaspar de los Reyes Gutierrez de Hermosillo, nace en Cuquio 1695.
e. Juan de los Santos Gutierres de Hermosillo, nace en Cuquio circa 1698

2. Leonor de Hermosillo
3. Miguel Gutierrez de Hermosillo
4. Francisca Gutierrez de Hermosillo

Mi linea paternal llega a Francisco Gtz (casado con Juana Lomelin) a traves de Lazaro (II) y Lazaro (I).

Si tiene datas sobre estas familias me ayudaria a llenar los huecos que tengo en mi arbol.

Gracias

Sergio Gutierrez
"xalos68"

Juan Andres:

As Joseph points out, you need not supply your entire genealogy in order to join the group. I think it is necessary for you to share part of it, however, in order for others to confirm whether they share the same lineages as you. Of course once you make that connection, you are free to collaborate as much or as little as you want with those individuals.

I have found that group members in general are very generous with their research, particularly with others who share their lineages.

Joseph,

As you are aware, I became member of nuestrosranchos.org very recently. From
the little that I have seen so far, without doubt that my research has been
very limited. Specifically, I am counting in my family tree 218 individuals
with the Michel surname (me included) and only 5 with the Villaseñor
surname. About 70-80% (fortunately me included) are alive. These individuals
are scattered over 8 generations. Not all individuals for each of the
generations are fully identified yet. My ancestors were born in the state of
Jalisco, mostly Autlan de Navarro.

As you may conclude, without doubt I would be interested in contacting my
most-probably-relative Juan Andres Michel. But also without doubt that my
piece of sharing would not be commensurate with Juan Andres´.

When I was a kid I used to collect cards with Disney characters. After many
months of hard work my collection was almost complete, about 95%. Then I met
a girl who was starting her own collection, and she had the ones I needed
badly. Bottom line, I was able to complete my collection. You will surely
guess the morale of my story...

Saludos ¡¡

Felipe Michel Olmo

>From: Joseph Puentes
>Reply-To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Villasenor/Cervantes y Lara ancestral line
>Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:13:58 -0400
>
>
>I am including this email both to the group and to you. The
>nuestrosranchos.org group is absolutely FREE. I have never asked anyone
>to submit 14 generations and sometimes I've accepted as few as 1
>generation for those that are new to genealogy. I don't know if there
>are individuals in the group studying exactly these lines but I'll know
>in a few days as the messages circulate among the members. I've not
>considered a person for membership based on the trade system you are
>proposing. Of course there are individuals in the group that probably
>thought the same thoughts you are verbally expressing. If anyone in the
>group replies I'll certainly put you in contact with those individuals
>if they request to communicate with you, but I'll need to think about
>your request for membership as your terms have activated my concern
>related to "what is best for the group".
>
>I'll let you know.
>
>joseph
>
>====================
>
>Joseph Puentes
>http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
>http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
>http://H2Opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)
>http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
>
>
>
>
>
>Joseph,
>
>I meant to ask you if this is going to come down to making payments for
>information. I hope not since I am willing to share my research on the
>condition that they lay open theirs for me to see. As I told you
>before, I have 14 generations of research on my father's side to share
>but on an equal basis. Of most importance is the research on the
>Villasenor/Cervantes y Lara ancestral line. If they have nothing on
>this then I may have to reconsider because what I will make know has
>been researched for many years by the Micheles of Jalisco under the
>leadership Padre Salvadore Michel of Guadalajara a descendent of Pedro
>Regalado Michel Corona. When you speak to the researchers ask them if
>they can assist me with research on Villasenor/Cervantes y Lara
>ancestral line which connects with Perez de Alencastre line that
>connects with the Micheles of Tonaya and beyond. It is at this juncture
>of my research, Villasenor/Cervantes y Lara that I am stymied and would
>like to move on if possible. If they can help with this I am willing to
>help them as well
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Juan Andres Michel
>
>

I have to smile at the thought of only submitting certain portions of my research in exchange for information from others. I don't know what part of Mexico is being requested for these lines. I do have Villasenor and Lopez de Lara from Zapotlan El Grande and Tamazula Jalisco. Since I've had problems with the gedcom I would suggest you check on Rootsweb.com where I submitted all my research in the hopes of helping others to reconnect with their ancestors. I hope I have something that will contribute to your research also. If not, then hopefully someone else will connect. Good luck in your search.

Linda in B.C.

Joseph Puentes wrote:

I am including this email both to the group and to you. The
nuestrosranchos.org group is absolutely FREE. I have never asked anyone
to submit 14 generations and sometimes I've accepted as few as 1
generation for those that are new to genealogy. I don't know if there
are individuals in the group studying exactly these lines but I'll know
in a few days as the messages circulate among the members. I've not
considered a person for membership based on the trade system you are
proposing. Of course there are individuals in the group that probably
thought the same thoughts you are verbally expressing. If anyone in the
group replies I'll certainly put you in contact with those individuals
if they request to communicate with you, but I'll need to think about
your request for membership as your terms have activated my concern
related to "what is best for the group".

I'll let you know.

joseph

====================

Joseph Puentes
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://H2Opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)

Joseph,

I meant to ask you if this is going to come down to making payments for
information. I hope not since I am willing to share my research on the
condition that they lay open theirs for me to see. As I told you
before, I have 14 generations of research on my father's side to share
but on an equal basis. Of most importance is the research on the
Villasenor/Cervantes y Lara ancestral line. If they have nothing on
this then I may have to reconsider because what I will make know has
been researched for many years by the Micheles of Jalisco under the
leadership Padre Salvadore Michel of Guadalajara a descendent of Pedro
Regalado Michel Corona. When you speak to the researchers ask them if
they can assist me with research on Villasenor/Cervantes y Lara
ancestral line which connects with Perez de Alencastre line that
connects with the Micheles of Tonaya and beyond. It is at this juncture
of my research, Villasenor/Cervantes y Lara that I am stymied and would
like to move on if possible. If they can help with this I am willing to
help them as well

Sincerely,

Juan Andres Michel

Hi SIS,

I notice there's a Francisco Delgadillo married to Anna Maria de Sandoval, who lived in Nochistlan. They baptized children in Jul 1766 & Feb 1773, while your Francisco Delgadillo and Anna Maria Ruiz baptized their children in Aug 1769, Jul 1771, Nov 1776 & Sep 1781. Chances are, they are the same couple. It wasn't unusual for women to use different surnames (usually a maternal surname), so you might want to track them; check which rancho their children were born on, and who the padrinos are, and see if they coincide with those of Francisco Delgadillo cc Anna Maria Ruiz.

Francisco Delgadillo married Anna Maria de Sandoval, 19 Sep 1765, Nochistllan: he was son of Diego Delgadillo cc Juana Marcela de Frias, and she daughter of Cristobal? Sandoval cc Anna Rodriguez.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JZXX-1VQ
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-TQ9W-PW?i=123&wc=3P9F-K6D

Good luck!
Manny Diez Hermosillo

PS Francisco Delgadillo who married Ana Maria Sandoval uses "Diego Delgadillo" on this baptism record for Joseph Claudio:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N8QK-3ZR

Hi Laurie,

What church are you referring to, you have not included a record? Do you mean Our Lady of the Assumption? That is definitely not a Presbyterian church. Any church that begins with Our Lady is a Catholic Church.

Chris

Welcome to the site where we share, learn and grow.

Have you posted your tree yet. My maternal lines lived in Tamazula, Ciudad Gusman and migrated to the U.S. in 1924.
Linda Castanon-Long

Jalisco lines: Gutierrez, Munguia, Mendez, Villanueva and others.

Ancestry.com has different levels of subscriptions, the Basic, U.S. searches only, World and another level. I found the difference the hard way, I was not able to search my lineage in Mexico until I spoke with Ancestry and they apprise me of the
different levels and cost associated with each level. I also considered getting an expert researcher and found that my pockets are not that deep. I have been a World level client for about 6 years, even had my DNA tested. The downside to DNA
and matches is that most Matches are not interested , unless your tree claims, pure Spanish heritage and royal lineage. I made a trip to Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes and collected a sizable amount of information which help me built my tree, however, not everybody is interested in his her heritage. I have many living relative in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes and Zacatecas, support from them is either none to NADA. Suggest get as much information from your living relatives, purchase the next higher level ask for help, but you will find out, the responsibility is all your. Good Luck.

Alex

I've tried to find a similar document referenced on one of Jaime Holcomb's family group sheets, but with no luck.

George Fulton

Hi Rick,

Not for sure, but looking at the name Beatriz Andrada Bocanegra, it would make sense that her parents were Guiomar de Andrada and Juan Gutierrez de Bocanegra:

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/De_Andrada-5

Chris

Hola R.A.Ricci:

Faltó alguna fecha de referencia en tu comentario, así que no se si te servirá ésta información de una familia en Querétaro, que leí en bisabuelos.com

Juan Jaramillo "El Mozo" se casó con Ana de Andrada (hija de Diego García Jaramillo y Cecilia Lucero)fueron padres de:

Beatriz Jaramillo y Andrada nacida en la ciudad de México hacia 1558, se casó con Alonso Pérez de Bocanegra el 6 de diciembre de 1576. En 1613 pasaron a vivir a Querétaro, tuvieron 9 hijos entre ellos un Beatriz.

El Sr. Cano ya no da más información sobre ella, porque desciende del primogénito, pero si te interesa avísame para consultar tres libros de testamentos de Querétaro para ver si aparece alguien de ésta familia.

Saludos.

Marcelina

Pat, just wanted to share that I've found some places in Jalisco listed in the Caribbean too. They were from San Vicente, district of Tamazula Jalisco but the transcriber for the history center sent them to the Carribbean. They were laborers so I don't really think they had the time or money to go Island hopping. When I checked online I found all the baptisms for them for San Vicente were listed as Caribbean and not Jalisco.. I have to admit, I did find it exciting to think they had been born on an Island and baptized in Tamazula 5 days later! .
Linda Castanon-Long in B.C.

International Genealogical Index / Mexico - 2 Select records to download - (50 maximum) [input] 1. SEVERIANA MORA MARTINEZ - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 22 FEB 1862 El Sagrario Or Santo Domingo, Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico
[input] 2. SEVERIANA MORA - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Marriage: 05 MAY 1879 El Sagrario Or Santo Domingo, Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico
Pat,
This is what I found when I did a search of Severiana Mora. Is this what you were looking for?

Maria Gutierrez-Uhlenburg

Patricia Silva Corbera wrote:
I have the following ancestors, that I located on FHC IGI files -
Maria Seberiana Mora, place of birth: Guadeloupe, Caribbean daughter of Nicanor Mora y Josefa de Robles. I have not located a birth record for Seberiana. She (age 18) married Jose Victorio de la Trinidad Salamanca (age 29) on 07 Oct 1840 - Parish Santa Maria Mecatabasco, Villa Del Rufugio, Zacatecas. No birth record for 'Trinidad," has been located either. On their marriage IGI Trinidad's place of birth is Guadalupe De Juanacatis,,,Mexico. 1). Where is Guadaupe De Juanacatis (in Mexico or Carribbean?)
2). Was there a migration period during the time frame of 1821 to 1840 from the Caribbean Islands to Mexico ? Or is this an example of FHC indexing error?
Thank You,
Pat